LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

48martin

48martin

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I would call him and try to butter him up a bit. Find the best spokesperson you all have that has already spoken to him. Emailing might draw a red flag where he might have to say no. My point on all of these emails is just to try to offer some solutions to your problems.
 
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infinitalus

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Calls are typically recorded for 'quality assurance purposes' anyway, email isnt going to be any different I dont think. This is what Im sending:

Jeff,

Somethings been bugging me and I would like to know if you can do myself and the T5 PAR lighting for horticulture community a favor and set things straight.


Do you remember the spectral graph I sent you before on the Korallen-Zucht Fiji Purple? If not, I attatched one to this email. The general consensus is the graph provided is a sham. According to Thom from KZ, the Fiji purple only has a 5-6% red output and will not release a graph for it. Looking at the graph, it doesnt correlate. Nowhere on the web have we been able to find an accurate graph. Would it be possible to also do a spectral analysis on a Fiji Purple and share the graph data?


The thing is we just want to know what the best bang for the dollar is for this specific purpose and we have no idea where to even inquire about doing a spectral analysis. You mentioned to me previously that the 660nm would be priced around $30 per 48" V-HO lamp. Honestly, some of us wouldnt mind paying the extra cost if we actually knew what we are buying.


On another note, I have had the 660 in for about 2 weeks, and the growth underneath is great. The other side of the fixture has red suns and I think the difference may be substantial.


Let me know what you think :)


Regards,
X
 
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infinitalus

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hyroot, that looks like a pretty sticky clump of goo lol

how much did your scuff weigh and whats the end result? i just got an email that my hashbags were shipped :)
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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infinitalus said:
Calls are typically recorded for 'quality assurance purposes' anyway, email isnt going to be any different I dont think. This is what Im sending:

Jeff,

Somethings been bugging me and I would like to know if you can do myself and the T5 PAR lighting for horticulture community a favor and set things straight.


Do you remember the spectral graph I sent you before on the Korallen-Zucht Fiji Purple? If not, I attatched one to this email. The general consensus is the graph provided is a sham. According to Thom from KZ, the Fiji purple only has a 5-6% red output and will not release a graph for it. Looking at the graph, it doesnt correlate. Nowhere on the web have we been able to find an accurate graph. Would it be possible to also do a spectral analysis on a Fiji Purple and share the graph data?


The thing is we just want to know what the best bang for the dollar is for this specific purpose and we have no idea where to even inquire about doing a spectral analysis. You mentioned to me previously that the 660nm would be priced around $30 per 48" V-HO lamp. Honestly, some of us wouldnt mind paying the extra cost if we actually knew what we are buying.


On another note, I have had the 660 in for about 2 weeks, and the growth underneath is great. The other side of the fixture has red suns and I think the difference may be substantial.


Let me know what you think :)


Regards,
X
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If he says he doesn't have one I've got one I'll send him, LOL.
 
48martin

48martin

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Yeah its a crap shoot either way. Nicely written and good luck.

infinitalus said:
Calls are typically recorded for 'quality assurance purposes' anyway, email isnt going to be any different I dont think. This is what Im sending:

Jeff,

Somethings been bugging me and I would like to know if you can do myself and the T5 PAR lighting for horticulture community a favor and set things straight.


Do you remember the spectral graph I sent you before on the Korallen-Zucht Fiji Purple? If not, I attatched one to this email. The general consensus is the graph provided is a sham. According to Thom from KZ, the Fiji purple only has a 5-6% red output and will not release a graph for it. Looking at the graph, it doesnt correlate. Nowhere on the web have we been able to find an accurate graph. Would it be possible to also do a spectral analysis on a Fiji Purple and share the graph data?


The thing is we just want to know what the best bang for the dollar is for this specific purpose and we have no idea where to even inquire about doing a spectral analysis. You mentioned to me previously that the 660nm would be priced around $30 per 48" V-HO lamp. Honestly, some of us wouldnt mind paying the extra cost if we actually knew what we are buying.


On another note, I have had the 660 in for about 2 weeks, and the growth underneath is great. The other side of the fixture has red suns and I think the difference may be substantial.


Let me know what you think :)


Regards,
X
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hyroot

hyroot

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Just from sugar leaves. Dry trim from 2 batches. I kept trim stored in the freezer. Trim weighed around 6 oz. . The goo weighed 25 g.

I only use 2 bags. The work bag and 60 micron bag. I used to keep do all the bags but didnt like it that way. One bag would taste better than other. Ome would bubble more than others. Varied in plyable. One time I accidentally mixed up all the hash and just mashed it all together. That turned out the best. So been using the 60 only aside from work bag.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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hyroot said:
Bam sucka. After boiling n pressing.


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Not trying to knock it, but everything I've seen is pretty much one color. Is that something that happens over time? Does it actually matter (Does it effect anything?)? I'm not really a hash connoisseur, so I am a bit curious. Made some BHO to try it recently, I do see why some people are a fan of hash.
 
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pedro420

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Well I just successfully made my first batch of bubble hash
I got some 1 gal bubble bags and they were filled half way with fresh trim and fan leaves ran the water threw 2 times and got about 2 bowls of hash I think that's good for my first time doing it

Also had to cut down one of my girls tonight was only 35 days into flower but when she is dry I suspect I should get around a Oz I didn't think there was as much bud on her as there accualy was but as I started to trim her she had like entire branches full of buds I'm going to let the last 2 girls keep going as long as I can

If your wondering why' i cut her down so early its because we are getting a new house and I wanted some smoke dried and cured for when we move wile all the outher girls are curing I didn't want to cut her but she had solid white trics all over her and some were turning amber but not a lot kinda more of a pink color
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Do not put in any fan leaves. Only sugar leaves. Store in freezer prior at least over night. Then either cut or grind pretty good or run through a food processor for 20 seconds. Then run that.

1. Put in some ice.
2. Add some water
3. Add trim
4. Mix up good.
5. Add more ice
6. Add rest of trim
7. Add more ice
8. Add more water
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Let sit for 10 min. Run mixer for 10 to 15 min. Let sit then repeat. after you scrape off all hash. Run it all again like 3 more times. You will.get a little more each time.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Boiling..... After it dries. Put it in a thick freezer bag or food saver vacuum seal bag. Boil some water. Once water is boiling. Submerge bag in water ( use tongs) for a minute or 2 or until hash feels soft. Then press it flat. I use a tortilla press. You can press with anything heavy. Then put it in the freezer for 5 min. Then take out and peel from bag. It will be hard. Let it sit for 10 min and it will be pliable. Then keep stored in the freezer to keep fresh and preven mold.

oxidising causes it to get darker over time.

mine is potent as fuck. So I dont think its in heat long enough to degrade.

SMOKE CHREESE:blsmoke:
 
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infinitalus

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I have a reply from Jeff.

X,
As I never want to question a companies integrity and want to believe that they are being truthful with the information they are providing...I also know that most T5 companies utilize a third party manufacture. UV Lighting uses a inter source company to produce our lamps but, the difference is that we own the blends, name and rights to everything that we sell under our name. That being said...I'm not sure who is producing the Figi Purple lamps and it seems a little strange that they are unwilling to release a spectral graph to their product. I can have the lamp spec graphed, but we do not make it a policy to purchase a competitor's product and run test on them. If you or your community can provide me with one I will send it in for testing. Attached is other spectral graphs to lamps we produce. Pay attention to the 75.25 lamp graph. When comparing apples to apples the Figi Purple looks very close to our 75.25 in color, or so I've been told. Our 75.25 is made up of 75% 420nm and 25% triband RGB mix.

Regards,
Jeff Saghy
UV Lighting Co.
[email protected]



My reply was this:

Jeff,


The problem is that KZ isnt providing any information. I agree that it is strange that they wouldnt, but they arent providing any specifics other than a vague phosphor description which isnt very helpful.


And even stranger thing is the website where We got this graph doesnt have a source for their information and has no contact information. Upon examination of the source code of the website and metadata of the picture itself, the picture is titled Geisemann fiji purple, yet they dont own the rights to that lamp. Weird.


I understand its not your policy to acquire lamps from other manufacturers and compare data but we do sincerely appreciate your willingness to run the test and share the results. This will help all of us immensely with future purchasing decisions.


Ill speak with the guys within the community and get a lamp shipped to you. Ill provide details on that and should hopefully have one to you by next week.


Thanks a lot Jeff, its always a pleasure working with you :)


Regards,
X



I checked my small collection of spare lamps and I dont have any fijis laying around. Anyone willing to step up to the plate?

Edit: for the sake of science I will replace one of the fijis in my grosite and replace it with a 3000k. If it really is around a 75% 420nm phosphor then i have way too much blue as it is. However, im too damn poor to purchase the packaging and pay to have it shipped. I will sacrifice the lamp if others are willing to help cover the cost of shipping and packaging. What do you guys think?
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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His assessment can't be right, as I run both a fiji and a 75.25 and they are no where near the same tint. That being said, I can ship him a fiji to test I'd imagine. I got one I'm not using right now. Don't really want to foot the shipping cost right now, I'm a little tight funds wise. I suppose I can make an exception though, as long as I can catch the UPS guy during a drop off or whatever. I don't live near a location and I have to pay like an extra 15 bucks to get them to come do pickups... fuck that...

Honestly I would rather just give away the bulb permanently than pay to ship it to him... too bad there's no way to trade the cost of the bulb I already paid for the shipping cost or something, haha. Fuckers cost 30 a piece. I better get it back.
 
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infinitalus

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He says thats what he was told, not his own observation. I dont own a 75.25 but I imagine its a turqoisish color.

I agree 15$ for a pickup is ludicrous. Try using usps hust make sure its packaged really well with a tracking number. Ill ask Him for his shipping information.

I dont think youd get it back unless you pay return shipping.
 
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