It's A Fuct World

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Thanks Al, I have h2o2 and was adding it till one day I had a bunch of brown slime in my control bucket and res. So I stopped adding it and used it only at nutrient change by adding to fresh water and running it through my system. I'm assuming now that it might of reacted with that heavy 16 prime?
Yep. Heavy 16 must be an organic nutrient/additive. Typical result.

I'm getting ready to switch over to 12/12 can I change my nutes to canna at that time?
It's as good a time as any.

What canna products should I use for bloom and should i use any of there additives?
Use Canna Flores. In some markets, it's called Aqua Flores.

What should the ppm's be?
You're looking for EC 1.5-1.6, which registers on the Bluelab Truncheon as 1050-1120ppm.

Conversion chart, by Pure of Oz Stoners:

truncheon_EC_conv.jpg

I believe my ph has been correct as my OCD has me not only calibrating my meter but also checking it with the liquid almost daily.
OK. Daily checking is fine, but calibrate before each use with pH 4.0 & 7.0 reference standard solutions. Clean the pH meter probe per the mfr's instructions.

What have you been running the nute strength at?

I have to tell you as a new grower and a first time hydro grower. It's pretty frustrating getting info from these grow shops as its pretty clear they're just interested in selling you the latest and greatest.
Hydro shop counter attendants are not a reliable source of information. As you remark, they are there to sell you what they have on hand, not what you need. If these people were really good at growing dope, that's what they'd be doing- instead of tending a retail counter for minimum wage.

Also I'm on city water that has an initial ppm reading of 130 and a ph of 6.8 a 7.0.
Sounds fine.

And I have 29% h2o2.
For 29%, use 1.7ml/L every 3-4 days instead of the 1ml/L spec for 50%.

Should I do any type of flush before a change my nutes over and because I have possible nute burn? Thanks Al!
I would flush your media with plain water corrected to 5.8-6.0, then start the new nutes as specified above. Don't expect miracles; when a plant in flower has been exposed to high nute strength and/or other problems, it may not yield well. Your next crop will come out better.
 

bigwood111

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Day 16 of my AL B FUCT style perpetual. Thanks Al... Big hat off to ya. I was thinking about it for a long time but you got my ass in gear and I made it a reality after growing every other way.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Fuckin' hell. Now I'm embarrassed.

Was working in the op yesterday & noticed that the 400 in the mother plant area actually looked brighter than the 1000s in the flowering room. Dug out the lux meter & measured the output at 1m. The 400 (on a rather old ballast with a rather old HPS bottle) registered 245,000 lux @ 1m. One of the 1000s clocked 109,000 lux @ 1m!

Shit. Well, that 'splains some poor yields of late...

The 1000 HPS bottles get replaced every 12 mos, come what may... but the ballasts? Very old. Like 12 years old. The culprit is the capacitors in the 1000 ballasts. Rather than dork around trying to track down some capacitors, I just bought a new pair of ballasts today. Now the 1000s are roasting out about 525,000 lux at 1m.

Lesson learned.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Day 16 of my AL B FUCT style perpetual. Thanks Al... Big hat off to ya. I was thinking about it for a long time but you got my ass in gear and I made it a reality after growing every other way.
Noice. Clone stems are a bit thin, tho. What sort of light are you running your mums under? I use a 400HPS over my mums. I think you'll get moar yield if you start with moar staunch clonage. My clone stem thicknesses are between 5-10mm.
 

bigwood111

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Yeah I run a 600 metal halide and a 400 mh as well. I think I just need more mothers of a single strain that as oppose to several mothers of different strains. I take 50 cuttings every 2 weeks off that plant and some are def smaller then others. This is my chem 4. Im 18at days in now and no formation of flowers yet which is unusual because I normally grow this strain in soil and I start seeing flowers a week into 12/12. Any ideas on that?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Yeah I run a 600 metal halide and a 400 mh as well. I think I just need more mothers of a single strain that as oppose to several mothers of different strains. I take 50 cuttings every 2 weeks off that plant and some are def smaller then others.
Eeek, 50 off 1 plant? I see. I maintain 10 mums to provide 30 cuttings every 2 weeks. I may take 5-7 from about 6 mums while 4 are younger plants being grown up to sufficient size to donate slips.

This is my chem 4. Im 18at days in now and no formation of flowers yet which is unusual because I normally grow this strain in soil and I start seeing flowers a week into 12/12. Any ideas on that?
Could be any number of things- has your flood system been producing well with other strains?
 

*BUDS

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I just bought a new pair of ballasts today. Now the 1000s are roasting out about 525,000 lux at 1m.
Thats a big difference im getting a lux meter. Did you go with magnetic again?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Thats a big difference im getting a lux meter. Did you go with magnetic again?
Would be nice to take lux meter readings with all new gear so you have a reference point.

Yes, got ordinary magnetic ballasts. When they're working correctly, they're just fine.... and they DO last nearly forever. Supplier didn't sell any 1000W HPS electronic ballasts anyway, only up to 600.
 

ANC

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Fuckin' hell. Now I'm embarrassed.

Was working in the op yesterday & noticed that the 400 in the mother plant area actually looked brighter than the 1000s in the flowering room. Dug out the lux meter & measured the output at 1m. The 400 (on a rather old ballast with a rather old HPS bottle) registered 245,000 lux @ 1m. One of the 1000s clocked 109,000 lux @ 1m!

Shit. Well, that 'splains some poor yields of late...

The 1000 HPS bottles get replaced every 12 mos, come what may... but the ballasts? Very old. Like 12 years old. The culprit is the capacitors in the 1000 ballasts. Rather than dork around trying to track down some capacitors, I just bought a new pair of ballasts today. Now the 1000s are roasting out about 525,000 lux at 1m.

Lesson learned.
It would inevitabily be one of the electrlytics, they do have quite a limited lifespan at high temps.
I would make a list of all values, voltages, case diameters and the spaceing of the pins, then replace the whole bunch.

I'm one of those sadist fuckers who loves fixing stuff.
 

Bigz2277

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It would inevitabily be one of the electrlytics, they do have quite a limited lifespan at high temps.
I would make a list of all values, voltages, case diameters and the spaceing of the pins, then replace the whole bunch.

I'm one of those sadist fuckers who loves fixing stuff.
And coloring ^_____^
 

akpaco

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Al, Thanks for your response!. I'm in the US so it's Canna Aqua. What exactly should I use? Just part A & B? No other Canna products or any other additives? I also could veg them for a little longer and try to get them looking a little better before I put them into bud? So if you could tell me exactly what to use for veg and bloom including any additives,if any that would be great!

My ppm's have been around 800ppm for the last few weeks. I always went lighter then the manufacturers suggested directions. That's why it's frustrating to hear I possibly burnt them. But I guess it also could be to much of one thing like the calmag I thought it was lacking. Based on the conversion chart I use a Hannah meter I should be around 800ppm. I been changing my res out every 7 days. So would that be h2o2 added twice in that period? I've definitely have cut down on my overall nutrients from when I first start growing in soil. If I told you what I was using then you might of threw me out of the forum! They get you hooked like a street corner dealer!

I also should mention when I found that slime in my res at the time I also noticed fungus gnat larvae swimming in my res and in the little bit of water left in my pots. I used some Gognats in my res for a week and then flushed with h2o2 then changed my res out added nutrients and added half strength of gognats. It seemed to work as I don't see any more at all. There wasn't a lot to start with but jumped on it right away. I also have yellow sticky paper up in every third pot and I've still haven't seen a gnat on them.

Sorry for clogging up the forum lately with my questions. But I'm a total noob and when I can get some solid answers from someone with real experience like yourself I gotta jump on it! I can't thank you enough again for your time. Thanks Al!
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
It would inevitabily be one of the electrlytics, they do have quite a limited lifespan at high temps.
I would make a list of all values, voltages, case diameters and the spaceing of the pins, then replace the whole bunch.

I'm one of those sadist fuckers who loves fixing stuff.
There's only one capacitor in a 'magnetic' ballast, usually 26 μF, 525V for a 1000W HPS. Not electrolytic; it's an oil-filled, non-polarised type.

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Al, Thanks for your response!. I'm in the US so it's Canna Aqua. What exactly should I use? Just part A & B?
Yep!

No other Canna products or any other additives?
Nope!

I'm well aware that many growers seem to think they need to add a number of magic sauces to grow dope, but the vast majority (if not all) of them are unnecessary. They tend to be very effective for making profit for retailers but not for much else.

I also could veg them for a little longer and try to get them looking a little better before I put them into bud? So if you could tell me exactly what to use for veg and bloom including any additives,if any that would be great!
I haven't see a pic of the whole plant, so I don't know how badly your plants are cooked. May or may not be recoverable. Pls post a whole plant view. In any case, when a plant is damaged, if you can veg it a bit longer, at least until you see fresh, correct growth, you can have some confidence that it's worth going forward & trying to flower it. If you don't see new, healthy growth in a week or so, it may be more worthwhile to start over.

My ppm's have been around 800ppm for the last few weeks. I always went lighter then the manufacturers suggested directions. That's why it's frustrating to hear I possibly burnt them. But I guess it also could be to much of one thing like the calmag I thought it was lacking.
Ca & Mg will not cause nute burn. You can mix totally correctly and still get nute burn if there's nute salt residues in the system. Make sure the system is totally clean.

Based on the conversion chart I use a Hannah meter I should be around 800ppm. I been changing my res out every 7 days. So would that be h2o2 added twice in that period?
Yes, H2O2 every 3-4 days.

I've definitely have cut down on my overall nutrients from when I first start growing in soil. If I told you what I was using then you might of threw me out of the forum! They get you hooked like a street corner dealer!
As said previously, hydro shops busy themselves with selling you what they have, not what you need.

I also should mention when I found that slime in my res at the time I also noticed fungus gnat larvae swimming in my res and in the little bit of water left in my pots. I used some Gognats in my res for a week and then flushed with h2o2 then changed my res out added nutrients and added half strength of gognats. It seemed to work as I don't see any more at all. There wasn't a lot to start with but jumped on it right away. I also have yellow sticky paper up in every third pot and I've still haven't seen a gnat on them.
Good. Remember to use such things totally per mfr's instructions. Don't be tempted to use more than is recommended.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Oh, and by the way- when using insecticides, don't use LESS than the recommended application amount, either! Insects can develop a resistance to insecticides if dosed in sub-lethal amounts. It's important to kill 'em all in one go!
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
It really is outright fraud. No LED or array of them comes close to the light intensity produced by HPS, but several makers/sellers of the things claim they'll outperform a 400HPS. Ain't happening.
 

*BUDS

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I cant work out who are the bigger thieves, led sellers or hydro shops that make 500g bags and 500ml bottles of fertilizer and make 1000% profit.

Another thing Al ,with the adjust a wings do you have the avenger ($260) or the standard one ($100)?

$(KGrHqMOKkME3u7ok1V3BOIl3rcPUw~~_35.jpgThe Avenger! lol
 

*BUDS

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Did some checking, found that the 20L size ($308) saves me $2/litre over the 5L packaging ($87). Was coincidentally placing an order with my supplier today & will be getting the 20L size. Hoping there is a tap on these jugs to make refilling 5L jugs a bit easier. I usually keep a pair of 5L jugs in the grow room for handy access- but there's no room for 20L jugs in there. Cheers for the suggestion.
No worries Al, I would be keen to find out if the plastic drums have a taphole , like you said things could get a bit heavy and awkward, still there's always a pump.
 

TillthedayiDIE420

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yes! the LED evangelists! those are my favorites! i actually analysed their psychology. imagine you have bought a light for like 800-1000$ it will be hard for you to admit that it doesn't work now wouldn't it? worse though is to try convince people to do the same stupid mistake you did lmao up until they swallow their loss and switch to hps they would have convinced a dozen to buy LED all of whom will be telling others to do the same, compounding the inefficiency and the lost efforts. sometimes i ask myself why i even bother, all i care for actually is to have a world with more free weed! haha
I would have to agree with ya there, but at the same time i disagree my friend.. This is not to create an argument... lol For $1000 bucks i bought a spectra 500... last year... At the same time i bought a 600w Lumatek Digital Ballast with a HORTILUX bulb... my little LED light not only out grows my 600watt lol... I have yet to change a bulb in the led... HID lighting i bought Three bulbs... I have one left $250 for ballast $100 for bulb .... 550 dollars for one year... add 200-300 or more per year on bulbs...
Its people like you who need to learn a thing or two about diversity.... They both have there strong points..... Does not take rocket science to figure out.... I will save money on my led in a 10 year span... O wait your just growing this one time and dont do it for medical purpose? or a hobby? one shot wonder? just saying.... lol I use 1000 watt HPS still I love my little LED and it does its job well... 4 plants 600grams is good to me... could you say PAR?
 
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