Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)
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Integra21
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Too early to tell. It's only been in there about 4 days. The next 3 weeks should tell the story though.
Integra21
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Update Day 26
Ph: 5.96
PPMs: 1050
Temp: 79F
ResTmp:77F
RH: 45%
I am now 26 days into flower and things are going well. The spider mites are still there and are semi under control. Still having problems getting the N dialed in right as you can see by the lighter green lower leaves. It is improving, but not like I'd like it to. My ph has been really cooperative over the last several weeks and I felt I needed to note that. Where ever I set it, it barely moves over several days. going from 5.95 to about 6.0 takes about 4 days. One thing I wonder about though is I usually have 5 more plants going and my ppms drop like mad. I would put 1100 ppm nutrients in and 2 days later, it would be below 800. now I put my nutrients at 1050 and they slowly climb. Is this a problem? Last res started out at 1050 and after a week made it up to 1200. I am starting to see a difference emerging from the uvb bulb. The ones directly under it are considerably further along in trichome production. Its not the they are more dense, but more so, the coverage is greater. More trichs on the fanleaves and to the tips of the smaller leaves. i actually took the time to crop these pics so you could see the trichs. So, On with the pics.
Ph: 5.96
PPMs: 1050
Temp: 79F
ResTmp:77F
RH: 45%
I am now 26 days into flower and things are going well. The spider mites are still there and are semi under control. Still having problems getting the N dialed in right as you can see by the lighter green lower leaves. It is improving, but not like I'd like it to. My ph has been really cooperative over the last several weeks and I felt I needed to note that. Where ever I set it, it barely moves over several days. going from 5.95 to about 6.0 takes about 4 days. One thing I wonder about though is I usually have 5 more plants going and my ppms drop like mad. I would put 1100 ppm nutrients in and 2 days later, it would be below 800. now I put my nutrients at 1050 and they slowly climb. Is this a problem? Last res started out at 1050 and after a week made it up to 1200. I am starting to see a difference emerging from the uvb bulb. The ones directly under it are considerably further along in trichome production. Its not the they are more dense, but more so, the coverage is greater. More trichs on the fanleaves and to the tips of the smaller leaves. i actually took the time to crop these pics so you could see the trichs. So, On with the pics.
No, the PPM rising isn't a "problem", per se, but it's something to take note of - if it's been continuously doing this and continues to do so, then your nutes are too strong.
My PPMs have been rising as well, but that's because so many of my plants are eensy weensy little guys right now and can't eat as much as they should.
Long story short, when you can nute your water and your PPMs stay the same for a reasonable length of time, you've found the correct strength to use (they're eating the nutes and drinking the water in the proper ratio).
Otherwise, buds are looking very nice.
My PPMs have been rising as well, but that's because so many of my plants are eensy weensy little guys right now and can't eat as much as they should.
Long story short, when you can nute your water and your PPMs stay the same for a reasonable length of time, you've found the correct strength to use (they're eating the nutes and drinking the water in the proper ratio).
Otherwise, buds are looking very nice.
Integra21
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Right, and thats was my initial thought. So I added water to dilute the solution. but then without the water level dropping, the ppms increase. Normally when plants drink the water level drops and ppms rise as a result. But in my case, the water level doesnt drop at all, and the ppm's rise. It did this on the last res, and I thought it was a fluke. But now twice in a row has me scrathing my head. The only reason I'm concerned is because I'll dilute it and within 4 days the ppms will be higher than the original ppms of the nutrient solution with the res topped off with nothing but water. My only though how this would not be negative is that it might be the beneficial micro orginisms multipling in number and my ppm picking up on that. Is this common in Organic DWC? Any organic hydro growers that can comment?
heady yeti
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I love the buds duct taped to the coat hanger! Classic!
Bucket head
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NLOverOntario
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Man that is amazing, I think im going to do almost exactly what you did with some feminized Opium. Props for a great job
Integra21
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Update: Day 30(1month)
PH: 6.01
PPM's: 1130
ResTmp: 78F
RmTmp: 80F
Humidity: 40%
Been another good week for the Mango. Starting to bulk up nicely and getting frosty as hell. I changed the res last night, and for the first time the ppms dropped over night instead of raising. Went from 1130 down to 880. Pretty significant drop for a single plant in 12 hrs. Thats the kind of drop I'm used to with 6 plants in the tub. As a result the ph went a little out of control on the high side. When I woke up it was at 7.14, but I corrected it back down to 6.01 over a 4 our period, adding a little down every 30min or so. They are starting to get a little stink to them, but nothing crazy. I haven;t had really strong smell since I started and I credit that to the hydro setup. My buddy grows a lot of the same strains in soil and his shit smells like 10x stronger. Some would argue that's better, but for steathness, its would be nothing but harmful. I dont want people to read this and get the wrong idea. My herb smells srtong and fantastic, but you actually have to smell it. His you can smell through the jar, but I see that as a problem. But enough talking and on with the pics, any uestions or comments, feel free.
PH: 6.01
PPM's: 1130
ResTmp: 78F
RmTmp: 80F
Humidity: 40%
Been another good week for the Mango. Starting to bulk up nicely and getting frosty as hell. I changed the res last night, and for the first time the ppms dropped over night instead of raising. Went from 1130 down to 880. Pretty significant drop for a single plant in 12 hrs. Thats the kind of drop I'm used to with 6 plants in the tub. As a result the ph went a little out of control on the high side. When I woke up it was at 7.14, but I corrected it back down to 6.01 over a 4 our period, adding a little down every 30min or so. They are starting to get a little stink to them, but nothing crazy. I haven;t had really strong smell since I started and I credit that to the hydro setup. My buddy grows a lot of the same strains in soil and his shit smells like 10x stronger. Some would argue that's better, but for steathness, its would be nothing but harmful. I dont want people to read this and get the wrong idea. My herb smells srtong and fantastic, but you actually have to smell it. His you can smell through the jar, but I see that as a problem. But enough talking and on with the pics, any uestions or comments, feel free.
lol...this is the first and only thread i have opened since being on this site, and this happens to be my 1st post on the site as well.
integra- thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make this thread!!
i have just read through all 30 pages..
sux that you lost that crop man, huge bummer, but learned experience nonetheless
i have some VERY general questions if you dont mind taking the time to answer...
-how much do you estimate you have spent on all your equipment and nutes for this grow op?
-do you have a couple buddies that are helping you with the layout and construction??
-how long did it take you to set up your 'room'?
-on average, how much time do you spend tending to your plants and operation?
thanks again for the info and the time spent.
integra- thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make this thread!!
i have just read through all 30 pages..
sux that you lost that crop man, huge bummer, but learned experience nonetheless
i have some VERY general questions if you dont mind taking the time to answer...
-how much do you estimate you have spent on all your equipment and nutes for this grow op?
-do you have a couple buddies that are helping you with the layout and construction??
-how long did it take you to set up your 'room'?
-on average, how much time do you spend tending to your plants and operation?
thanks again for the info and the time spent.
Integra21
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Hi there, and thanks for stopping by. Never mind answering questions so here we go...lol...this is the first and only thread i have opened since being on this site, and this happens to be my 1st post on the site as well.
integra- thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make this thread!!
i have just read through all 30 pages..
sux that you lost that crop man, huge bummer, but learned experience nonetheless
i have some VERY general questions if you dont mind taking the time to answer...
-how much do you estimate you have spent on all your equipment and nutes for this grow op?
-do you have a couple buddies that are helping you with the layout and construction??
-how long did it take you to set up your 'room'?
-on average, how much time do you spend tending to your plants and operation?
thanks again for the info and the time spent.
1st I shopped around and got great prices and also didnt have to pay for my first genetics(White Widow) so the first run cost about $1200.00usd.
2nd I had no help with the design or construction on this entire build except for hanging mylar&poly. I had one friend that grows in soil give me 3 WW seedlings and a 100w Metal Halide light. Put them in the crawl space and started researching various places like Jorge Cervantes and Greg Greens Grow Bibles and started reading on forums just like this. Kinda mixed the best of all that would work in my area into a little room. Building and improving as I went along.
3rd It has obviously been changed around alot over the 9 months I have been doing this and will still change dramatically in the near future. The initial setup took about 3 hours. I started by using insulating foam to seal all of the corners of the room. took 2 cans($10). Used a 10'x10" sheet of blk/wht poly($12) to cover the floor. Then used 1mil Mylar($50) on the walls and ceiling that I hung with a staple gun. Once they were all mounted used a couple of rolls of duct tape($15) to tape all of the seams(floors, corners, ceiling). Then moved on to hanging the 100w mh(free) which you can pick up at home depot for $70. After the light was hung, set up the plants underneath and made a trip to the local grow store and picked up the Technaflora Recipe for Succes kit($33) and put it to use using the mix at 25%&50%. Initial setup complete. After that it was all spread out with a couple of hours here and there making hydro tubs(($195for3GH Airpumps, $30 airstones, $10 airlines+fittings, $15 tubs, $20 hydrotron+3.5"net pots) and then adding the flower room($260 400w light+lumatek ballast+2bulbsmh&hps, $25 Scrog Screen, $20oscillating fan, $30 cool mist humidifier, $12 Thermometer/humidity, $90 Hanna PH pen, $40 squirel cage fan)
4th I spend about 10-20min at a time in there 3-5 times a day, but that much is not nessasary. 5 minutes 3 times a day is doable with one day spending 30min changing tubs and res. but harvest time has been at least a full 8hrs both times with cutting, trimming, hanging, and butter making.
Here's a couple of pics showing the rooms progression:
This timeline really shows how empty my screen is with only 1 plant. Hope you guys enjoyed this. Sorry for the huge post, but I just try to be overly thourgh sometime.
g0dsGift209
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Well Integra, I stumbled across ur thread at 130 am this morning, and its now 328 am and im just done reading every thing. I have to give you mad props with ur grow. It is beyond astonishing. If i may suggest, I personally like use advanced nutes. I happened to stumble across a base called monkey juice. Its discontinued by advn nutes, but its one of the best ive used. Im vegging 4 now 3 weeks in and there a foot and looking great. (PICS SOON) Im using fluorescents for the veg and i would normally be switching to hps, but im trying this round with just fluorescents. I bought Bud Candy (advn nutes) for the flowering stage of my ladies. And im finishing them off with Final Phase (advn nutes) to flush last 10 days. My girls are in happy frog soil and im extremely impressed so far. No bugs AL great green with no discoloration what so ever. SMOKE ONE!
BlackRoses
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Those were looking sweet!!!
"This timeline really shows how empty my screen is with only 1 plant. Hope you guys enjoyed this. Sorry for the huge post, but I just try to be overly thourgh sometime."
I can't speak for all, but I thoroughly enjoyed that little executive summary.
Can't wait to see the screen filled again to its previous glory.
I can't speak for all, but I thoroughly enjoyed that little executive summary.
Can't wait to see the screen filled again to its previous glory.