over 5 weeks and not budding + rep

DMXAK47

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ok i have a 50 inch female plant under a 430w super argo hps she took 3 weeks to show sex . i put her in 12/12 on 06-21-09 and she showed sex at 07-10-09 and shes been in 12/12 ever since then and all she did was get pistily and no buds have even attempted to form at all and she stretched from 20 inches to 50 inches since then . i have her on techniflora nute bc boost,bloom awsome blossom, b1 thrive alive red, sugar daddy thats all the nutes shes on 7-16-21 and still just not budding any help or suggestion i will give rep. shes 90% sativa 10% indica
ok well leave the 12/12 make sure you are doing it the same time everyday. also take the hps bulb and put in a mh bulb. and if i was you a would lay off the nut. thats what i would do and double check for light leacks .
 

nellyatcha

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its alreaday been said .... but my thoughts are purely with a very very sativa strain/pheno . And these can take 14-15 weeks, so consider your development about a third of the way. The plants look fabulous ... for pure strong sativa characteristics .... I thnik you are doing a fabulous job, but you got a while to go ....and let them be all they can be .... your patience will be WELL rewarded ....

thanks i know im patient , i just like feed back so i can do some comparison and etc.
 

nellyatcha

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ok well leave the 12/12 make sure you are doing it the same time everyday. also take the hps bulb and put in a mh bulb. and if i was you a would lay off the nut. thats what i would do and double check for light leacks .

why switch back to a mh bulb instead of hps ? the mh bulb gets the room way to hot and not enough red spectrum mh promotes vertical growth and thats what postponed my flowering stage from the start . im not getting what your saying , why switch back to a veg bulb? and im on a timer
 

DMXAK47

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nm mind about the mh but you are already confusing the plant if you going to 24 to 12/12 or 12/10. i got a digitail 1000 and the bulb has both that i have a mh and hps this is the bulb . i would check your temps make sure thier not above 80 and i would not give your plants any nut . also what strain is it? or is it bag seed?
 

nellyatcha

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nm mind about the mh but you are already confusing the plant if you going to 24 to 12/12 or 12/10. i got a digitail 1000 and the bulb has both that i have a mh and hps this is the bulb . i would check your temps make sure thier not above 80 and i would not give your plants any nut . also what strain is it? or is it bag seed?

its tropical sativa/ trantchula indica
and the bulb im using is a 430w super son argo hps it has blue spectrum in it as well its made for growing and nutes are low i just fed them today because it was lacking and starting to yellow at the bottom
 

pastafarian81

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PLEASE make a grow journal and stop making a new thread every time you have a brain fart. how many threads do you need devoted to the SAME DAMN grow?





....... i need to get high now.....
 

Blueberry2008

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Ok, I'll try to help ya out if I can..

How old is the HPS light??
Room temps???
How far are your lights from the plants??
 

tahoe58

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hey man ... that should be good .... but the real answer lies with your plants. Just watch them and they will tell you what they need. A healthy vibrant plant with rigorous growth is telling you, just keep doing what ur doing .... its all good.:peace:
thanks bro and she yellowing at the bottom and i was concerned about that and i fed her some nute 7-16-21 so any advise on that or what ?
 

woodsmantoker

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Hello there Nelly,

Well, I have read through the other posts and am concerned that you may not be getting the information needed.

When I face a problem with my plants (of any kind) I like to start from one end of the problem spectrum and work my way to the other end. For instance; Take the most common reasons for an issue and apply them to your situation. If they are not applicable, then move on to the next possible scenario and work through what cannot possibly be the reason. By knowing what is NOT the problem, it becomes more and more easy to determine what can or could be the culprit to your issue/issues. When it comes to budding it is most easy to start with the basic nature of flowering. Light, (or the lack there of) is the triggering mechanism when it comes to flowering most all plants. This may sound easy, and thus is easily shrugged off as a "couldn’t be". As most of you already know, each strain and plant species acts and reacts differently to particular conditions. Each plant will have its own set of circumstances and boundaries of which the grower will have to learn in order to combat issues that negatively effect the growth. If not, the problems will become something that the plant will have to overcome and thus prolong the periods of trouble and stage of which the plant is in. (such as prolonged flowering) I would agree that most folks are correct in that the plant will overcome this and finish flowering at some point. However, there could be a multitude of inter connected/ related issues that happen as a result or simply during that time as a period of opportunity. Hermaphrodism is a plants natural response to stress. This response insures the plants spread of genetics and is a difficult response to reverse if not impossible. If the plants response to stress is to trigger reproduction, you will not only have a longer flowering time, but you will also have a plant that produces male and female flowers which in turn produces buds with seeds.

In the case of prolonged flowering, I would suggest that you consider how many times the flowering room is visited during the "dark hours". If there are visits, the question should then be "is light used to see, and what spectrum is the light?" If there is any light that is on the correct color spectrum for vegetative growth of any kind, there is a chance that those visits are the reason behind the lengthy flowering time. If you determine that your not the culprit (per say), then the next thing that I would check is for light leaks. This can easily be done by waiting in the flowering room while the lights turn off. Give your eyes time to adjust to the dark (say 5 - 10 min) and if you see any light at all, or are able to see period, there is a problem if not THE problem. Then, if there are not apparent leaks, I would suggest searching for items that have lights on them which remain in the flowering room during the dark. (Example: A cable box was sitting next to a plant that was triggered to flower by 12 - 12 lighting cycle. The side of the plant that was facing away from the box began to show signs of female flower, while the opposite side closest to the box remained vegetative and showed no sign of sex at all. This was due to a single small LED "on / off" light that was on the face of the cable box sitting about 3 feet away from the plant.)

If it determined that light is not the issue, I will break down the next possible options to consider however, I wouldn’t even consider them until you have gotten to that point. Rule out the most common problems first....

I do hope that this is of help. I hope that you are able to figure out what the problem is and can add the experience to your bank of cultivation knowledge. If you have more problems and would like to ask me for my opinions, I would be happy to help. Take care and good luck!
 

nellyatcha

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Hello there Nelly,

Well, I have read through the other posts and am concerned that you may not be getting the information needed.

When I face a problem with my plants (of any kind) I like to start from one end of the problem spectrum and work my way to the other end. For instance; Take the most common reasons for an issue and apply them to your situation. If they are not applicable, then move on to the next possible scenario and work through what cannot possibly be the reason. By knowing what is NOT the problem, it becomes more and more easy to determine what can or could be the culprit to your issue/issues. When it comes to budding it is most easy to start with the basic nature of flowering. Light, (or the lack there of) is the triggering mechanism when it comes to flowering most all plants. This may sound easy, and thus is easily shrugged off as a "couldn’t be". As most of you already know, each strain and plant species acts and reacts differently to particular conditions. Each plant will have its own set of circumstances and boundaries of which the grower will have to learn in order to combat issues that negatively effect the growth. If not, the problems will become something that the plant will have to overcome and thus prolong the periods of trouble and stage of which the plant is in. (such as prolonged flowering) I would agree that most folks are correct in that the plant will overcome this and finish flowering at some point. However, there could be a multitude of inter connected/ related issues that happen as a result or simply during that time as a period of opportunity. Hermaphrodism is a plants natural response to stress. This response insures the plants spread of genetics and is a difficult response to reverse if not impossible. If the plants response to stress is to trigger reproduction, you will not only have a longer flowering time, but you will also have a plant that produces male and female flowers which in turn produces buds with seeds.

In the case of prolonged flowering, I would suggest that you consider how many times the flowering room is visited during the "dark hours". If there are visits, the question should then be "is light used to see, and what spectrum is the light?" If there is any light that is on the correct color spectrum for vegetative growth of any kind, there is a chance that those visits are the reason behind the lengthy flowering time. If you determine that your not the culprit (per say), then the next thing that I would check is for light leaks. This can easily be done by waiting in the flowering room while the lights turn off. Give your eyes time to adjust to the dark (say 5 - 10 min) and if you see any light at all, or are able to see period, there is a problem if not THE problem. Then, if there are not apparent leaks, I would suggest searching for items that have lights on them which remain in the flowering room during the dark. (Example: A cable box was sitting next to a plant that was triggered to flower by 12 - 12 lighting cycle. The side of the plant that was facing away from the box began to show signs of female flower, while the opposite side closest to the box remained vegetative and showed no sign of sex at all. This was due to a single small LED "on / off" light that was on the face of the cable box sitting about 3 feet away from the plant.)

If it determined that light is not the issue, I will break down the next possible options to consider however, I wouldn’t even consider them until you have gotten to that point. Rule out the most common problems first....

I do hope that this is of help. I hope that you are able to figure out what the problem is and can add the experience to your bank of cultivation knowledge. If you have more problems and would like to ask me for my opinions, I would be happy to help. Take care and good luck!
my plant flowered already , im just waiting on buds to start forming because , its all pistily and etc , but no buds yet imalmost 40 days in flowering so hermie is out the subject as well, and thanks for the long explination and it seems like you got that from a high time artical that i read lol
 

nellyatcha

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i decided to take some pics of her today and shes at week 6 so show some love even reps and thanks, oh and i started 1 crystal strain and 1 bigbud strain and they surfaced, but still needs to shake the shell of the seed, but they each got their own 2 gallon pot so its from strat to finish for them. and heres the pics lol. SHE STOPED AT 5 FEET TALL IM HAPPY . DAMN 40 INCH STRETCH.
 

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tahoe58

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hey man ... thanks for the updater and photos .... theey look fine though the focus and lighting in the pics makes it a little difficult. the last pic with a hand in it .... that looks very much like a healthy happy growing bud .... very strong sativa influence .... looks like I might also have one of those myself ....
 
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