growinman's grow

[growinman]

in case you didnt read the thread he has a few nice strains that he has found work well with the setup you should read it theres great strains and info

My fault you guys......I 've been talking to ru8fru for quite awhile in his awesome thread and have learned a lot from him via pm........ and I ordered the AK47 from Serious Seed----I 'll swipe a pic of his:

pic stolen from ru8fru

Thats the cleanest drip set-up I 've seen. But check out this AK!! and if I am right, it's only around 5ish weeks in...... I could see this stuff growinmg right next to my SS perfectly, if I can get a similar pheno from the seeds I get. All's I can say for the Mazar X Afghan and THC Bomb is that I have them right next to a SS(the bud I 've been showing last few pics) and they are just now starting to get a little bud growth at 6wks?, and are definately not going to be able to produce as claimed......
I was going to run a drip set-up just before I got the AeroFlo........:

I went and got the leach trays, slabs, pump, etc., then just never got around to setting it up........and I didn't really care for the 'drain to waist' idea.....
grodrowithme and ru8fru, you guys are both the most awesome photographers on the site, imo, and put my shit to shame! I very much look forward to seeing your grows each day and I 've followed them pretty much from the start...
I have much to do and I actually scheduled work this coming week--I am a contractor and I haven't worked in over 6 months(I am about healed from surgery now) except doing what I 've shared some of here.
These pics will be the conclusion of this thread for me

The AF today under 1200wts hps-------been in here 6 days so I switch to the Canna bloom nutes around 900ppm tomorrow(10 gals stewing now)....then she'll be off on her own as I may scap the tables altogether and get that other system in there and be able to 12/12 around 55 ladies!

the lights were up and just coming on in the 2nd pic.....
.....and the bubble-cloner is cleaned and ready for cuts tonight......and these moms are ready for the thinning......haha......gonna do about 30 MoonFlowers just for the sweet smoking smoke it is---but a pain in the ass to manage and usually have to tie it up........

The SS to the right......the MxA and TB to the left---just 1 wk behing the SS.............go figure:

........sorry for the shitty pic--just went a grabbed it a minute ago.....

The final on the AF w/10 SS was just under 20zips: here's 8

I was going to get some pics out of my old hard drive------has all my pics prior to 11-08 to show you some pop can sized MF buds...... got a lot to do. Has anybody been hit on from the newest site??
Well, it's been fun
I 'll be back to check on your grows---please check each other's grows out..........

 

[ru8fru]

haha man looks like you really got a grip on ur new project. Im extremely excited for you and am here for any questions you may have. This sucks that ur not planning on continuing a journal or updating anything, but its all good, im glad you got some work. Yeah im definitely down to check out anybodys grow so just hit me up. Gunna miss ya homie, have fun!

 

[sb101]

shoot mang here it is! hope all is well brother keep it cool!

 

[ru8fru]

I ditto all of that

 

[growinman]

Well, there were a few followers that might be curious what I have going on...? I ended up taking the week off because I went back to work too soon and ripped some shit where I had my surgery

Everything's cool here on my side.

Okay, look out......

I was able to pick up my order yesterday.........and look at the freebies I am going to get these in to germ tonight(the AK47 at least).....


The GH AF20..........talk all of the shit you want about store bought expensive systems and how you can make your own better, for cheaper, etc., this thing KICKS ASS!! It was explained to me by someone on here(hiddendragon or netpirate I think) why the GH systems are unique. The "lazer" holes in the lines, the way the solution squirts out into the channel and oxygenates the flowing solution and the microns(correct amount) in the air in there...........it all does something (supposedly) that sprayers/ misters, etc., cant do + you can regulate the depth of solution in the channel. The first run I kept the level all the way down once the roots were there. This time I am running them about a 1.5" deep as was suggested to me. The difference is very substantial! We shall see...... I have a completed 55 siter ready to go that is a diy sytem with the sprayers that I will set up in my 12/12 room after some more harvesting.

The last pic I took on 1-25

This was today

23 days of 12/12 straight from clone...... These here in the frount are THC Bomb and in the back is the Mazar x Afghan and you can see my SS in the very middle with all of the bud already! The TB and MA are way too much leaf for my liking, plus they've really stretched and gotten out of control---I cut massive amounts of branches off the first two weeks too! But the growth is great and I can compare with my SS girls what this thing can do with 1200wts of hps. The SS I grow was 65-70 days in soil. I ran 10 of them in this the first run and it was like 55 days and I bet we have amber trics by day 50 this run(should have just filled the whole thing with it!).<---fortunately I have a couple of tables worth of this SS running right now too---they're finished in under 60 days in my flood/drain table.
The 2 SS in the AF today:

Here's an SS in my table that is at about the same date as the ones in the AF:

23 days!! Dripping with trics!!! The skimpy looking one to the right front is a MoonFlower----I do these just for me as they are a pain in the ass to grow and very nute/PH sensitive, whimpy stems/branches; but the most wonderful smelling/tasting sweetest weed!

SO! I am just praying for this AK47 from Serious to run along side the SS I am running. ru8fru's is growing just as I dream of a plant----short and beautifully FAT. It looks like it can easily pack on more weight than the SS. I 've got the SS down to most always 2 zips per plant straight from clone; well, after they root I guess they continue rooting and growing as I add nute to the bubbler and wait for enough roots(3-4 days).

When I get a good mother from the AK I hope to run a whole group of clones and I may do a journel on that grow if there's any interest....

I hope everybody is doing well and that your grows are very green!
Stay Safe!

ru8fru------look man, I listened.......haha(I 'll do it right next time)

 

[onenumcat]

hey growinman, that is just awesome!

all that is way above my head, lol, but those thc bomb really look great. I hope I can get half of that from my Aerolights x2 400w system.
and 'special' nutes.

anyway, in a hurry today, lol, so gotta make it short, see ya 'round.

 

[ru8fru]

dude I dunno what to say other then awesome job. You really got it going in there and the high quality strains you have germing now will show you how much that pays off ... way to go!!!! +rep

 

[Harlequin]

So, I'm wondering, in order to get 2 to 3 z per plant, how long are you vegging? How much light (lumens/ sq foot) are you using? How many plants per sq foot? CO2 enriched? What size pots (when you were using dirt) were you using? Sorry if this is all in the text already, I was too caught up in the pics to read along, except for the captions that went with the pics. I haven't had much success with my yields, about 12 to 14 oz on a 4x8 table under a 1000 watt HPS on a Light Rail... your journal is the best concrete (ie with photos) example I've seen on this site so far of a succesful set up. Thanks for any help you can give...

H.

 

[growinman]

Thanks for stopping by and commenting you guys!!
ru8fru, where are you??<----been looking all over.........

onenumcat, thanks a lot, bro! I 've been watching your journel daily, when I can get on here; got those pics took.........

And Harlequin, I normally veg less than a week and those get me average a zip ea. If I veg for a month I can get up to three, but only a couple of times have I done that..... I grew this SS for a couple of years in soil(3 gal bags) and usually got two zips(average) with a couple weeks veg.... Haven't used CO2 and to be honest, I dont even know the wtts pr sq ft.......haha- I move the lights too often- though I know I got it up there at 50+ per sqft.... I would think you may have better luck trying 2 600's instead of the light mover. I do not like my LR3.5 and only have it move about a foot......too much time out of the footprint, imo, when it moves more. The biggest boost in production that I 've noticed(other than my systems) was when I really got great ventilation and constant temps... Do you have a journel or pics somewhere??

Okay, try to get onenumcat a pic of the THC Bomb. haha....they dont like the nute like my others(burn), but its some of the best smelling stuff I've grown:

This was a small branch that just happen to snap off the other night---great sample......very stoney already w/no cure and pre-mature...

Now, if I can just get them to bulk out a bit.......a lot of plant for the amount of bud compared to my SS......this is at like 5 weeks and they're already looking like two weeks away from finish. But, I figured out what they need next run......straight to 12/12 from root......

 

[growinman]

pics?????

The cluttered AF....you can see a couple of the SS in the middle....Mazar x Afghan in frount and THC Bomb in back..... The MxA sucks real bad so far......quite possibly NO thc(grew one in f/d table and had to pull it a bit early(10wks) and was shit for stoney! Now I have a huge one in a dwc with huge leafy buds covered in trics......it's at 90+days and looks like it could use another 90! haha

That's the same table I just covered a couple of weeks ago. These girls are at day 35-36.......and kickin ass like they should....... Look at those SS ladies!

Those are my MoonFlower(last 2 pics)--only did 2 of them as they're a bitch with the skinny stems/branches, but is the SWEETEST! They are 4+ wks in and will start really packing on some weight now(just watch and see )


Okay, laugh at this!!

Six plants(4 SS, 2 MF). The two in front were going to be moms so they got a week of veg..... So anyway, I threw this table together so I have something budding when I harvest all of this other stuff...... I need to get it 50/50 so I harvest every month like I always have---the AF through me off when I got it in there + it's moving a bit faster as well......Watch me get at least 5 zips off of this!

Yes, and this is somewhere else atm.....doing a test run. I am going to have to build it its' own room because I really like all the different things I can do in my room at different times.....That 35 siter would fill my room.....but I split it in half so I can do 2 flower stages; there are now a 2 channel and a three channel.......

Pretty sweet at 5 wks, huh..?

No burn, and at full max + (All Canna Aqua in this one + their Boost).... They are doing so good that I cant dare try out the FoxFarm boosters I still have........

I hope you guys are having a great weekend!!

 

[Harlequin]

Thanks for stopping by and commenting you guys!!
ru8fru, where are you??<----been looking all over.........

onenumcat, thanks a lot, bro! I 've been watching your journel daily, when I can get on here; got those pics took.........

And Harlequin, I normally veg less than a week and those get me average a zip ea. If I veg for a month I can get up to three, but only a couple of times have I done that..... I grew this SS for a couple of years in soil(3 gal bags) and usually got two zips(average) with a couple weeks veg.... Haven't used CO2 and to be honest, I dont even know the wtts pr sq ft.......haha- I move the lights too often- though I know I got it up there at 50+ per sqft.... I would think you may have better luck trying 2 600's instead of the light mover. I do not like my LR3.5 and only have it move about a foot......too much time out of the footprint, imo, when it moves more. The biggest boost in production that I 've noticed(other than my systems) was when I really got great ventilation and constant temps... Do you have a journel or pics somewhere??

Hey, thanks for the reply! You give me hope that it can be done! 2 600's seems sensible... I've got good ventilation (it sucks the smoke in from my chimney sometimes, gotta work on that somehow!), I think what may be lacking is the light concentration. Constant temps are a bit of an issue for me, too- Daytime is good, in the 70's, but it gets cold in my basement, so the nightime temps are around 50 in the winter, 60 the rest of the year. Not sure if I need to add a space heater, temp controller, or both. Don't have a journal up and running yet, but I did snap a few pics the other day and posted them on here at https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/166035-sea-green-frustrated-please-help.html They're towards the end. Thanks for your time man, you certainly look like a busy man from your pics!

H.

 

[onenumcat]

good pics, thanx for that. the thcbomb is lookin nice. as for hydro, I know nothing...

I wish I could tell ya something to get more bud density, but I'm not sure. get your lights closer to the canopy, without burnin em, somehow....
(but I know, you know what yer doing and prolly can't give any advise to you)
ah, just went back and read all posts...seems you have several rooms, several setups...lots of bulbs, just 'LOTS' of everything, lol
and I see you're using a light mover. I only have experience with the one I made...never even knew they existed until after I built it, haha.
but, anyway, I've got two bulbs on mine. looks like you got only one.
how far does it move, how long to make a full cycle n return to the starting position?
also, can't you add lights to it? if you haven't seen my posts on light spectrum, in my journal, go back n take a look.
I know I'm a newb and this is my first success, so far, but the theory seems sound. high blue for veg(MH), and high red for bud(HPS)...no shit, everyone
knows that...but I added a middle stage, with high blue and high red, MH and HPS. idk, but it seems to me a linear light mover
has too little movement...I mean, there's no lateral movement, it's only a single dimension.

anywho, you're doin great...an inspiration, so, prolly, just ignore whatever I say, lol

 

[growinman]

Hey there, guys! Haven't been around here again in awhile.......but I really haven't 'started' a new grow to do a journel with..... just messing around with a few things as always but I am really waiting for the AK I have growing to show sex(waiting on clones to root-12/12) so I can pick a pheno or two.....


That Mazar x Afghan........still running it trying to get it to finish.......@ day 70++ I've given in to removing bags of leaf from them--I mean BAGS!!

The buds are huge! and look to be all leaf, until about 2 weeks ago they started showing hairs and getting firm...... How do you trim this shit anyway?? If it's any good it may be a good one to run again as I am well over 2 zips per+ the one in the 5 gal dwc had a good 8 zips......

SS bud at the chop, and again out for air-------->>

Okay, and that table I said to laugh at 3 weeks ago...? This is from 031909

Well, I'd better go make more cuts for clones......thinking I about boiled the batch in there now....got the water at 80 and realized it was 85 in the room......
Have a great week!

 

[dikncider]

Hey growinman, disregard the questions on your type of grow, man you have some nice setups and more importantly space! I had seen your grow journal before but didn't put it together. Hey you asked for suggestions on modifying the spray setup on your 20 AF, check out gohydros' setup. He put drilled out rubber stoppers to have access to his sprayheads.https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/164408-6-pvc-system.html

3/25- you've already seen the setup, my bad hehe.

 

[growinman]

......well, still waiting on clones. I botched the whole last batch of 49 so refilled her last night. So far on the AK47 seeds: 2 confirmed male, 3 female, 2 ?? I am keeping the best male and harvest some pollen in a few more days..... might make an interesting cross with the SS I grow and maybe a WW too.......

Okay, this Mazar x Afghan........wtf am I doing wrong?? It will not finish. It's got to be in over 100 days 12/12 by now and still needs more time, although I might be seeing some clouding in the trichs and pistols that are just now turning as well....... I think I should have been removing fan leafs from the beginning, it's just against anything I 've ever been taught. I 'd love some info if anybody has any. I have kept a good mother pruned back, just in case it's real great smoke and tastes like lemon cake as it smells(haha), and I doubt both......
Here's a couple of pics from yesterday of the MxA: it's the frount half of the AF20; in the back is the 5 gal(orange)dwc that's over 100 days 12/12.

Now tell me that isn't some crappy looking bud.....BUT, it is very firm and dense now, and smells like a champ(gotta keep my hopes up , yah know). You can see I did a mass trim job(sloppy) and the grow might very well have been nicer if I had been manicuring all along.......

So..... the current 4 SS into week 5 12/12:

Yeah, these look like they're supposed to.....and always do. They just frost right up as soon as they hit 12/12. The AK I am cloning has trichs already on the leafs in 24/0 and is starting to smell(which I've never had to deal with in veg) and need to make sure I am ready when they hit the 12/12......

Sh*t! Doesn't everybody have a bathroom dedicated to 24/0?? My Ol' Lady didn't think so either......

It's just a couple of moms and a few veggers.......

.......what, the toilet side??

Yeah, just set up a new bubble cloner with a 42w cfl up there..... Thinking of making this room into two levels(haha!)---shit, it has 11' ceilings! Wait until she gets home from FL next week and sees her old walk-in closet....<----I am running a bunch of soil kids for clones for the bush this summer.....


Then I just found this on Planet Ganja:

"don't cut, cutting the fan leaves off might create a metabolic imbalance.


"Removing large amounts of leaves may interfere with the metabolic balance of the plant. If this metabolic change occurs too late in the season it could interfere with floral development and delay maturation. If any floral inhibitors are removed, the intended effect of accelerating flowering will probably be counteracted by metabolic upset in the plant. Removal of shade leaves does facilitate more light reaching the center of the plant, but if there is not enough food energy produced in the leaves, the small internal floral clusters will probably not grow any larger. Leaf removal may also cause sex reversal resulting from a metabolic change."

marijuana botany chapter 2."

Well, ......no choice as I see it......

Have a great week!

 

[onenumcat]

lookin real good growinman! great pics and layout, as always, too, lol.
idk about hydro, or what you can or can't do...but, if you really want that Mazar to
finish, cut the daylight to 11-10hrs...if you can separate it from the others. but, I don't know crap
about how your system works, it's just the only thing I can think of...sry.

 

[growinman]

Thanks for the comments, onenumcat! But why do you keep saying you dont know anything.....and I know you mean hydro, but the basics are the same. And I like your cutting the lights on time idea down to 10-11hrs......but as you thought, I cant do it because of everything else in there.......now after what I read last night I am afraid of them going hermie on me-----thinkin' I am ready to just have that crap out of there!
onenumcat, I always appreciate what you say and I thank you for following this along.
Now, your grow, on the other hand........is a work of art in its' own rights! You talk about 'hydro' like it's much different than soil. I cant imagine the work you have to do to get soil in and out of that apt, but it has to be a pain in the ....... it's just so much easier to go to the faucet to get my medium(and get rid of it tooooooo)<------and I am out in the bush! I just cant believe I didn't try hydro sooner. I wanted the real organic soil bud that tastes sooooo much better and is that much better for you too!!<<--if that isn't the biggest line of shit.......maybe I did the soil wrong for all those years, but the buds I grow now in hydro are completely superior to the soil grown that I was growing a year ago......other than my bubble cloner, 7 months ago I was still 100% in soil......(read the FoxFarm threads........).
And I am not trying to get you or anyone else to switch to hydro, but definately, just dont be afraid of it. If you can grow in soil you can grow in hydro(where, imo, the options are always endless; making it FUN fine tuning this and that, tweeking this and that.....) So, you screw something up mid-grow.........change res........simple as that. I dont think I ever did a 'real' flush when I was in soil. Now I run them a good week to 10 days on plain h2o and have some clean fresh bud....

Anyway, work to do.......

 

[gohydro]

Nice grow! I know you're following my thread and was wondering what strain that is with the Bic lighter in the picture. If you remember I mentioned that a buddy of mine gave me BACK some clones about a year after I gave him some clones.......problem is that he didn't keep track of what they were. That bud in the Bic lighter pic is a dead ringer for what I have. I know it's predominantly Indica but that's as far as it goes.

 

[growinman]

Nice grow! I know you're following my thread and was wondering what strain that is with the Bic lighter in the picture. If you remember I mentioned that a buddy of mine gave me BACK some clones about a year after I gave him some clones.......problem is that he didn't keep track of what they were. That bud in the Bic lighter pic is a dead ringer for what I have. I know it's predominantly Indica but that's as far as it goes.

Hey there, gohydro! Yes, you have an awesome aero/nft system that is 1st class all-the-way!!, not to mention your strains.........mmmmmm

That's the Super Skunk I've been growing for quite a few years. There's nothing 'rks' about this though. It is great smoke, all around. Smells nice without much cure too. It is the most potent stuff I've smoked--as many have said. It's pretty much remained my bread and butter, so to speak. It finishes in 55 days in aero/nft(my AF20) and about the same to 60 days in flood/drain and dwc. When conditions were stable it always was exactly 62 day when in soil.
I didn't really want it originally. It is very picky PH and nute wise. I have to keep the ph in hydro at 5.5(soil was 6.4) which always make whatever I grow along side it suffer somewhat. But I have it to where they never get over 18-20" and always a zip, and sometimes 3!
The pheno I have is verigated(sp?) which I happen to like

Most of the cuts always have this somewhat. Sometimes not. Sometimes the whole leaf is white and shrivels.......Yes, indi-dom, and it rarely gets more than 5 petal leafs, usually just three. Needless to say, I dont have to keep these marked for identification; may be a good part of why I've been able to keep it so long..........

That was my first run with them in the AF20 and I only used the back row and 8 sights! The buds usually look like baseballs when done. The dwc(12 gal) next to the AF had 2 sites and brought 5 zips dry/cured in 60 days 12/12.....

So, you want a cut?? haha...... I wish I could give everybody some! I have this AK47(Serious Seed) male:

<<-----haha

Wish me luck........gonna try to get some beans using this on an SS girl...if it turn out good I may have some mailable stuff to give....

Thanks for stopping by!<---and keeping me from my chores......okay, work time.....

 

[gohydro]

Hey there, gohydro! Yes, you have an awesome aero/nft system that is 1st class all-the-way!!, not to mention your strains.........mmmmmm

That's the Super Skunk I've been growing for quite a few years. There's nothing 'rks' about this though. It is great smoke, all around. Smells nice without much cure too. It is the most potent stuff I've smoked--as many have said. It's pretty much remained my bread and butter, so to speak. It finishes in 55 days in aero/nft(my AF20) and about the same to 60 days in flood/drain and dwc. When conditions were stable it always was exactly 62 day when in soil.
I didn't really want it originally. It is very picky PH and nute wise. I have to keep the ph in hydro at 5.5(soil was 6.4) which always make whatever I grow along side it suffer somewhat. But I have it to where they never get over 18-20" and always a zip, and sometimes 3!
The pheno I have is verigated(sp?) which I happen to like

Most of the cuts always have this somewhat. Sometimes not. Sometimes the whole leaf is white and shrivels.......Yes, indi-dom, and it rarely gets more than 5 petal leafs, usually just three. Needless to say, I dont have to keep these marked for identification; may be a good part of why I've been able to keep it so long..........

That was my first run with them in the AF20 and I only used the back row and 8 sights! The buds usually look like baseballs when done. The dwc(12 gal) next to the AF had 2 sites and brought 5 zips dry/cured in 60 days 12/12.....

So, you want a cut?? haha...... I wish I could give everybody some! I have this AK47(Serious Seed) male:

<<-----haha

Wish me luck........gonna try to get some beans using this on an SS girl...if it turn out good I may have some mailable stuff to give....

Thanks for stopping by!<---and keeping me from my chores......okay, work time.....

Thanks for the info and the comment on the Aero/NFT system. You ought to see my home made bud dryer. 5-6 days in 83fah temps and everything is dry. Now I need to figure out how to make a "speed-curer". Lets put our heads together and make a million $$$.

Well, the SS strain doesn't help me. Between the 2 of us we had Aroura Indica, White Widow, Bubblegum, Chrystal and Papaya. I know it's not Papaya, and I dont thinkits WW, but thats where it stops. It is exactly a 65 day strain but I always choose those.....too damn impatient I guess.

All the freekin $ I spend and he FORGETS what is what. I cant bare to toss the Moms and start over just so I know what I have and I don't have room in my Mom closet for more than 3 plants. The whole process of planting, sexing, cloning and tossing out the males sucks. If I have 12 pots I want 12 females. Greedy huh? I THINK that I have a different strain in 2 of the pots but only time will tell.

+Rep4u.