Chemical Trails????

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s.c.mtn.hillbilly

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YES! it is chemtrails! so pop on your tinfoil helmets, and adjust your wrongway corrigan goggles!...the truth is far worse than a government mind control experiment, or misguided attempts to restore the ozone layer...nope! the chemicals are residues and gasses from burnt jp fuel!!!! you wanna' talk ozone depletion?! you wanna' talk dousing us with crap? there it is! the TRUTH! and as usual, it's far less whizbang sci-fi conspiracy, and more just plain irresponsibility! (I've spent years in sedona studying people like you!). stop and think how many thousands of flights a day, dumpin'exhaust you'd rather not breathe directly into the atmosphere(free transport!). that's gotta' be helpin' the environment -right? but, if you're more comfortable worrying about being abducted by aliens while standing in the middle of the expressway; you'll be needing that tinfoil pith helmet!!!
 
medicineman

medicineman

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s.c.mtn.hillbilly said:
YES! it is chemtrails! so pop on your tinfoil helmets, and adjust your wrongway corrigan goggles!...the truth is far worse than a government mind control experiment, or misguided attempts to restore the ozone layer...nope! the chemicals are residues and gasses from burnt jp fuel!!!! you wanna' talk ozone depletion?! you wanna' talk dousing us with crap? there it is! the TRUTH! and as usual, it's far less whizbang sci-fi conspiracy, and more just plain irresponsibility! (I've spent years in sedona studying people like you!). stop and think how many thousands of flights a day, dumpin'exhaust you'd rather not breathe directly into the atmosphere(free transport!). that's gotta' be helpin' the environment -right? but, if you're more comfortable worrying about being abducted by aliens while standing in the middle of the expressway; you'll be needing that tinfoil pith helmet!!!
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It's more like aluminum particles used to slow global warming, or so they think. Tell me why the traills criss-cross the skies on a grid pattern when there are pre-arranged flight patterns in and out of major population centers. In vegas, the regular commercial Jets are held to a certain area of sky to ingress and egress the airport. Cross country flights generally avoid the Vegas area because of Nellis AFB. So.......... when I see criss cross grid like con/chem-trails, Of course I am suspicious. Especially when I see planes flying back and forth, criss crossing. Please tell me you aren't naive enough to think your government actually gives a fuck what you or I think. BTW, I'd rather think that people that don't suspect the government of foul play, are fools.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Wait ... wait!!! I just put on my tin-foil hat and I can see things clearly now!

Those are government planes spraying the nation with High Fructose Corn Syrup vapors. As the vapors disperse downward, we breath in the vapors.

As as a result of the increased sugar intake from the High Fructose Corn Syrup vapors, we Americans are becoming morbidly obese.

The idea is, as we take in the High Fructose Corn Syrup, our brain's ability to recognize when we are full isn't triggered, so we eat, and eat, and eat. Supersize me, Bro!

The idea is, as we consume more and more, the government makes out in all of the taxes it charges. Simple, no?

Don't believe it? Ha! Just take a look around at your fellow American! bongsmilie

Vi
 
medicineman

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natrone23 said:
call me crazy but maybe they are air force jets, you know since there is an air force base there
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Well, airspace over Nellis is restricted and the nellis range extends at least a hundred miles north west, so flights over this space would cross vegas airspace, hence no commercial jets and their con-trails would come from that direction and guess what, they do. These Chem/con-trails linger for hours unlike contrails that vanish in minutes. They will turn a sunny day into an overcast day. I haven't noticed them in summer when it's 120 in the shade, but I'll keep an eye out for you disbelievers, and see this summer. Just in case you think I'm making this shit up, check out a couple a sites for yourself.
http://urbansemiotic.com/2007/07/11/contrails-into-chemtrails-are-we-being-poisoned-from-the-sky/index.html
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164825
I'll try and get a photo for ya.
 
medicineman

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Here is a picture of a normal blue sky with one dissapating contrail. The jet just flew over and it is almost gone. The chemtrails last for hrs. I'll try and get a picture of the chemtrails when they do them. This is right outside my front door.
 

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mindphuk

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The break up or persistence of contrails is a result of the temperature, humidity, winds, and aircraft exhaust characteristics.
Persistent contrails have been studied for decades because of their affect on cloud patterns and the weather. There is no such thing as a chemtrail. The original chemtrail report back in 1996 was a hoax. But of course facts don't amount to much to the tinfoil hat wearing crowd. Any expert that disputes the chemtrail theory must be part of the conspiracy. :rolleyes:
 
BCtrippin

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So if its Vapor Trails how come they last hours and hour on extreme hot OR cold days or in any weather.....And how come I only EVER see these chemtrails/contrails form private or military jets....


No one ever sees contrails trailing behind a 747.....its always military jets. :-|

I know, people are gonna say 9/11, there was contrails when it hit the building, well that may be so, but they didnt sit for hours and hours, I have seen vapor trails, IMO they appear different.

What kinda military spends BILLIONS designing a jet fighter, and to track it down some Terrorist just needs to look in the sky and follow the white vapor trail.....?

Im not the type of person who is worried about conspiracy theories and aliens.....But people who wanna just put up every possibility as BS made up by paranoid people are ignorant and dont take to LOOK.


Im not saying its true or false. Im just putting it out there and seeing what people have to say, if your just gonna go on about how its BS consipracy crap please dont bother posting. If you have some REAL, Scientific based FACTS to share, then Please, Let us know what you think.:grin:


My main questions are still

A. How can a jet turn vapor trails on or off?

B. Why is it ONLY private/military jets and never airliners?




:peace:
 
TheBrutalTruth

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BCtrippin said:
So if its Vapor Trails how come they last hours and hour on extreme hot OR cold days or in any weather.....And how come I only EVER see these chemtrails/contrails form private or military jets....


No one ever sees contrails trailing behind a 747.....its always military jets. :-|


Im not the type of person who is worried about conspiracy theories and aliens.....But people who wanna just put up every possibility as BS made up by paranoid people are ignorant and dont take to LOOK.


Im not saying its true or false. Im just putting it out there and seeing what people have to say, if your just gonna go on about how its BS consipracy crap please dont bother posting. If you have some REAL, Scientific based FACTS to share, then Please, Let us know what you think.:grin:


My main questions are still

A. How can a jet turn vapor trails on or off?

B. Why is it ONLY private/military jets and never airliners?




:peace:
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How do you know that they were produced by Military Jets?

Besides, I've seen airliners leave persistent Contrails before, so you're argument is falling flat... at least from my perspective.
 
BCtrippin

BCtrippin

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TheBrutalTruth said:
How do you know that they were produced by Military Jets?

Besides, I've seen airliners leave persistent Contrails before, so you're argument is falling flat... at least from my perspective.
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I dont, I said military/private jets and never airliners.....I have NEVER seen a vapor trail from an airliner sit for hours....




:peace:
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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BCtrippin said:
I dont, I said military/private jets and never airliners.....I have NEVER seen a vapor trail from an airliner sit for hours....




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Happens all of the time. That grid of contrails you see is produced by jets of all types, including commercial airliners. The National Airspace System of the United States is orientated in an east-west and north-south grid with aircraft flying at designated 2000 foot increments of elevation. Contrails formed by aircraft may appear to form a grid as the winds disperse the contrails. More contrails are seen in recent years due to the growth in the civil aviation market. The FAA is responsible for the NAS and Air Force aircraft operate under the same rules and procedures as civilian aircraft when using the NAS.

Contrail persistence is mainly a factor of humidity and air movement. Also, you really can't believe that weather where you are is the same as atmospheric weather at 30,000 feet do you? (I'm also amazed you are able to differentiate between millitary and commercial jets at that distance as well. :confused:)
 
mindphuk

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medicineman said:
Well, airspace over Nellis is restricted and the nellis range extends at least a hundred miles north west, so flights over this space would cross vegas airspace, hence no commercial jets and their con-trails would come from that direction
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Do you have any evidence to back this up? I know Groom Lake is no-fly, but just because Nellis is 'restricted' does not make it no-fly. It merely means that clearance is required from Nellis control before entering DESERT MOA to the east and northeast and the REVEILLE MOA to the north, exluding 1500 AGL and below.
 
BCtrippin

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Im NOT in a major urban area. I see them fly right over the USA/Canada border at Bellingham, Washington. I only Ever see single jets leaving contrails like in the pics in the first post, and I see ALL the jets flying over from Vancouver and the lower mainland too, they never leave trails. Just the wierd high flying military jets.

My main questions are still.......

A. How can a jet turn vapor trails on or off? You can watch them turn it on, then spray a line, turn it off, and fly away.


B. Why is it ONLY private/military jets and never airliners?

I never, ever see airliners leaving contrails, even in the exact same conditions. And the actual vapor trails that I have seen do NOT sit as long as the trails shown in the pics.




:peace:
 
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s.c.mtn.hillbilly

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medicineman said:
It's more like aluminum particles used to slow global warming, or so they think. Tell me why the traills criss-cross the skies on a grid pattern when there are pre-arranged flight patterns in and out of major population centers. In vegas, the regular commercial Jets are held to a certain area of sky to ingress and egress the airport. Cross country flights generally avoid the Vegas area because of Nellis AFB. So.......... when I see criss cross grid like con/chem-trails, Of course I am suspicious. Especially when I see planes flying back and forth, criss crossing. Please tell me you aren't naive enough to think your government actually gives a fuck what you or I think. BTW, I'd rather think that people that don't suspect the government of foul play, are fools.
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the government isn't run by a consortium....I believe everything they tell(shovel) me...after all; my best interests are their top priority! right!....as far as grid flying goes; the sky is not a cornfield! look at the n.o.a.a. satellite site! the wind blows...and not in a straight line! maybe they were doing grid photography, or grid geological survey(I knew a guy who was a field flunky for such work). personally; I don't care about government mind control water, or 'chemtrails',or black helicopters nearly as much as things like real pollution, petro chemical agriculture, the sociological disease we call 'western society'( which is why we have this latest depression! and will continue to repeat). I gave up on worrying about everything they print in nexus magazine or the sedona journal of straight up wacko!
 
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s.c.mtn.hillbilly

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BCtrippin said:
Im NOT in a major urban area. I see them fly right over the USA/Canada border at Bellingham, Washington. I only Ever see single jets leaving contrails like in the pics in the first post, and I see ALL the jets flying over from Vancouver and the lower mainland too, they never leave trails. Just the wierd high flying military jets.

My main questions are still.......

A. How can a jet turn vapor trails on or off? You can watch them turn it on, then spray a line, turn it off, and fly away.


B. Why is it ONLY private/military jets and never airliners?

I never, ever see airliners leaving contrails, even in the exact same conditions. And the actual vapor trails that I have seen do NOT sit as long as the trails shown in the pics.




:peace:
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a}when planes change ALTITUDE, they go in and out of layers of atmosphere- hence th on and off. b} commercial planes behave exactly the same as far as vapor trails go...hell even the b-17's and b29's did it! the b-29's actually discovered the jet stream(for the u.s.), when they found themselves flying BACKWARD over tokyo! crazy atmosphere! and remember- 'majic' just means you don't know how it works!
 
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