Water question

Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn't find a thread with it answered

Anyways roughly how long can you keep a bucket of RO water around with Airstones and a top on it without any negative effects?
 
I disagree with the post above. If you don’t aerate it, you risk growing a bunch of nasty anaerobic bacteria in your stagnant pool of water. RO water isn’t sterile water, it’s just very low TDS.
 
Would 7-10 days be in a acceptable range. My water system isn't the most efficient and the ground waters still pretty cold here. I get maybe a gallon a hour and as of right now it comes out about 60f. I'd like to run it once a week so I can build up 2-3 waterings at a time and also allow it to come up to room temp before using.
 
Interesting, I thought ro was sterile. I thought that would fix my issue. What seems to work with my tap is keeping it under 72F. So a waterchiller just might work for me but dont want lots of water prone to spilling. Im dtw coco, what about you?

I tried pool shock then bleach due to calcium in my water and it just wont work. I have to refresh daily because its 75-85F in my flower room. So cool temps should help idk tho Im no water expert. Just saying dont be suprised if it goes bad, feel free to ask questions if its not working.
 
Interesting, I thought ro was sterile. I thought that would fix my issue. What seems to work with my tap is keeping it under 72F. So a waterchiller just might work for me but dont want lots of water prone to spilling. Im dtw coco, what about you?

I tried pool shock then bleach due to calcium in my water and it just wont work. I have to refresh daily because its 75-85F in my flower room. So cool temps should help idk tho Im no water expert. Just saying dont be suprised if it goes bad, feel free to ask questions if its not working.
I'm in soil. I've been interested in trying out coco. The growth I see other people get in coco looks nice compared to 60 day veg in soil. (I've only done 3 runs indoor 2 of which where mehh I wasn't phing or checking anything. Turns out I have pretty hard well water. ( 350-400ppm with a ph between 8-8.5 depending on the day) everything would go to shit around week 4 of flower and couldn't get anything to fully finish. Hoping the Ro system and adjusting the ph fixes that.
 
Two 55 gallon reservoirs in grow room with air-stones.
One is for fresh water and run a aquarium UV light for two hours at night to keep it clear.
The other is for nutrient mix which last for 7-10 days.
The room stays at 75-83° F throughout the grow.
To reduce cost of the grow, RO water is no longer used
The well water is very hard at 0.6 EC.
Monitoring/adjusting PH is recommended after mixing nutrients.
 
I found that without an air stone, my water started to smell funky and get that slime coating (bacteria) on the inside of the trash can after a while. It doesn’t take much organic material to contaminate water and set off a bloom of some sort of micro-critters. The air stone serves as extra protection against anaerobes (the stinky ones).
 
I found that without an air stone, my water started to smell funky and get that slime coating (bacteria) on the inside of the trash can after a while. It doesn’t take much organic material to contaminate water and set off a bloom of some sort of micro-critters. The air stone serves as extra protection against anaerobes (the stinky ones).
He never did say what size bucket he's using. Would it make a difference between a 5gallon vs 50? The 5 gallon would for sure be used within a week or even less
 
He never did say what size bucket he's using. Would it make a difference between a 5gallon vs 50? The 5 gallon would for sure be used within a week or even less
Just a 5 gallon bucket ATM with 4 stones going in it. I use 4 gallons every 4-5 days currently in veg. Would just like to keep 2-3 buckets around and ready to go. ( just a small 4x8 hobby grow, and only using half of it at the moment) I top dress so it'll just be water sitting bubbling. I will brew a tea occasionally but I don't plan on storing that.
 
Just a 5 gallon bucket ATM with 4 stones going in it. I use 4 gallons every 4-5 days currently in veg. Would just like to keep 2-3 buckets around and ready to go. ( just a small 4x8 hobby grow, and only using half of it at the moment) I top dress so it'll just be water sitting bubbling. I will brew a tea occasionally but I don't plan on storing that.
I'm the same and have never had a problem with shit going stale. Only in the 27 gallon bin I was using (and that was straight tap water) to gravity feed my blumats I had in a 4x4. But remedied that with some Drip Clean. But the RO filtered water in clean 5 gallon buckets.. nah, no problems. I'm in organic soil so thinking of there was anything funky the soil would just feed off it.
 
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Just a 5 gallon bucket ATM with 4 stones going in it. I use 4 gallons every 4-5 days currently in veg. Would just like to keep 2-3 buckets around and ready to go. ( just a small 4x8 hobby grow, and only using half of it at the moment) I top dress so it'll just be water sitting bubbling. I will brew a tea occasionally but I don't plan on storing that.
I would not bubble air through it. The only outcome of that is that the CO2 in the air will drop pH—you can't super saturate O2 in a nutrient solution by bubbling.

Other than that, there shouldn't be an issue. Nutrients are designed to go into solution easily and most do so quite well. You should adhere to the "mixing order" - silica first, cal mag (if it's part of your nutrient mix), Part A, Part B or whatever they're called.

My res management "nutrient add pack" process is to fill my res (it holds 28 gallons) and to mix a 4 gallon bucket of ferts at double strength. As EC drops, I add enough of the concentrated batch to bring EC up to the desired level. I don't recall there ever being any precipitate in the 4 gallon batch. I don't actually pickup the bucket, I just dip a 2 liter container into it so the bucket will remain motionless for a few weeks at a time.

I've been doing this for a few years and have no reason to think that there's any issues with approach.

BTW, I've been back and forth on how often to change out a res and can't make the argument to replace a res every X days. I looked into this because the conventional wisdom is to swap a res every week. That makes sense if you're selling nutrients. It may not be much of an issue to a grower if it's one or two buckets and it's an enjoyable part of a hobby.

Another approach is to "add back" either ferts or RO water to the res and swap the res when certain evens occur. If you're doing fert add backs, a res should be replaced when pH starts to go out of range. If you're topping off with RO, the advise there is to swap the res when you've added back the amount of RO equal to the capacity of the res.

Again, if it's "just another thing to do", swapping every week is part of the hobby. On the other hand, you can cut down on the amount of labor by actively managing the res.

I've attached a couple of papers that might be of interest.

Note - I mixup (no pun intended) "add back" and "top off". Apparently there is a distinction and there's a 50/50 chance I've described is bassackwards.
 

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I'm in soil. I've been interested in trying out coco. The growth I see other people get in coco looks nice compared to 60 day veg in soil. (I've only done 3 runs indoor 2 of which where mehh I wasn't phing or checking anything. Turns out I have pretty hard well water. ( 350-400ppm with a ph between 8-8.5 depending on the day) everything would go to shit around week 4 of flower and couldn't get anything to fully finish. Hoping the Ro system and adjusting the ph fixes that.
What nutes where you using with the hard water?

Hard water isn't necessarily a problem, I used it for years in coco and others here do the same. Hard water just needs to be used with appropriate nutrients. For example, Maxibloom has little calcium and magnesium so it works well with hard water, it just needs ph down. When used with RO water I add 3-4 ml/gal of calmag and a few ounces of hard water raises the ph to 5.8.
 
I'm in soil. I've been interested in trying out coco. The growth I see other people get in coco looks nice compared to 60 day veg in soil. (I've only done 3 runs indoor 2 of which where mehh I wasn't phing or checking anything. Turns out I have pretty hard well water. ( 350-400ppm with a ph between 8-8.5 depending on the day) everything would go to shit around week 4 of flower and couldn't get anything to fully finish. Hoping the Ro system and adjusting the ph fixes that.
You don't have to adjust the pH with RO water. Especially with soil grows. It will help with that lime build up in the soil. Been there done that. Since I've gone to RO my flower problems are gone. And you can do 50/50 of tap and RO if your ever in a pinch for time or whatever.
 
What nutes where you using with the hard water?

Hard water isn't necessarily a problem, I used it for years in coco and others here do the same. Hard water just needs to be used with appropriate nutrients. For example, Maxibloom has little calcium and magnesium so it works well with hard water, it just needs ph down. When used with RO water I add 3-4 ml/gal of calmag and a few ounces of hard water raises the ph to 5.8.
I was using the bio bizz line when I was having problems. I was not phing ( ph out the tap 8-8.5) or using Ro when I ran it . Kept ending up with white rings around the bottom of my fabric pots (imagine calcium build up) I'm trying the roots organic terp tea line this run. I also grabbed their elemental to replace the shit I strip out with Ro system
 
I was using the bio bizz line when I was having problems. I was not phing ( ph out the tap 8-8.5) or using Ro when I ran it . Kept ending up with white rings around the bottom of my fabric pots (imagine calcium build up) I'm trying the roots organic terp tea line this run. I also grabbed their elemental to replace the shit I strip out with Ro system
Sounds like the perfect plan. Folks don't understand that the water source (tap or well) is never constant. But what we put in the RO is! We have more control this way knowing exactly what's being administered in the water.
 
You don't have to adjust the pH with RO water. Especially with soil grows. It will help with that lime build up in the soil. Been there done that. Since I've gone to RO my flower problems are gone. And you can do 50/50 of tap and RO if your ever in a pinch for time or whatever.
Even at a ph of 8-8.5? The Ro system dropped my ppm down next to nothing but the ph is still the same as coming out the tap unfiltered? And I might try the 50/50 mix after I use up this bag of elemental. I hate the idea of buying shit my water already has in it.
 
Even at a ph of 8-8.5? The Ro system dropped my ppm down next to nothing but the ph is still the same as coming out the tap unfiltered? And I might try the 50/50 mix after I use up this bag of elemental. I hate the idea of buying shit my water already has in it.
Depends on the size of your pots.. my opinion, is that the soils pH is the end all be all of what really matters to the plants overall health. The pH at the root system is set by the plant on its own. Rhyzosphere is where the magic happens. And in a big enough pot the better the action. I'm in 20 g pots and have yet to pH my hard water of 8.1ph . It's in them smaller soil pots is where I believe there's not enough soil to buffer the waters pH. That's my opinion.
 
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