How Do You Sativa People Do It In A 4X4?

xtsho

xtsho

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farmerfischer said:
If thats real.. then he chopped all of the roots that were mostly grown out of the pot..
I used quart size square mccoys on my small flood and drain and on a two and ahalf foot tall plant i would have a shit load of roots growing out the holes in the bottum.
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I didn't chop shit. That plant was started from seed in a small 2.5" x 2.5" nursery pot and then transplanted into that 1.7 liter pot before going into a final 3 gallon pot.

I don't need 20 gallons of soil.

It was one of these.



Then I transplanted into a 1.7 liter pot.



And here it is later in the photo I posted previously.



This is after supercropping and transplanting to the 3 gallon pot. You can just see the top of the round black nursery pot.



No photoshop and no chopping roots.

If anyone's trying to challenge my integrity they failed.
 
farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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xtsho said:
I didn't chop shit. That plant was started from seed in a small 2.5" x 2.5" nursery pot and then transplanted into that 1.7 liter pot before going into a final 3 gallon pot.

I don't need 20 gallons of soil.

It was one of these.



Then I transplanted into a 1.7 liter pot.



And here it is later in the photo I posted previously.



This is after supercropping and transplanting to the 3 gallon pot. You can just see the top of the round black nursery pot.



No photoshop and no chopping roots.

If anyone's trying to challenge my integrity they failed.
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Settle down bro.. lol.. jeesh..
i would assume you would of had quite abit of roots coming out of those tiny pots..
Good job on growing big plants in tiny ass pots

: thumbs up:
 
xtsho

xtsho

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farmerfischer said:
Settle down bro.. lol.. jeesh..
i would assume you would of had quite abit of roots coming out of those tiny pots..
Good job on growing big plants in tiny ass pots

: thumbs up:
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Oh I'm settled. Cool as a cucumber.

The thing is, people have a mob mentality. Someone posts something and then it's fact. Hey man, this guy is photoshopping his grow, blah blah blah. I'm not going to sit here and have anyone imply that my photos are not real. When confronted with that kind of nonsense it's "Terminate with extreme prejudice."

There is no secret to growing cannabis. It's an extremely easy to grow plant if you don't get caught up in all the fiddle faddle people do these days. I didn't do anything revolutionary by growing that plant. Anyone can do it. They just need to understand plants. New growers are more focused on brand and type of light, nutrient line, some dudes seeds on instagram. Many lack even a basic knowledge of plant anatomy. They have the latest LED, 12 bottles of Whiz Bang Nutrients, the latest 6 site super fantastic recirculating atomic drip system, apps on their phone to monitor everything, hell they can turn everything off from across the world as long as they have an internet connection. Yet many lack the ability to successfully germinate a seed and start a seedling, make a clone, or even know when to water.

There's no secret. Haven't you seen huge healthy houseplants in small containers and also small sickly houseplants in big containers? It's all in the grower and understanding the plant and what it needs and how to provide those needs efficiently and consistently.
 
VincenzioVonHook

VincenzioVonHook

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xtsho said:
Oh I'm settled. Cool as a cucumber.

The thing is, people have a mob mentality. Someone posts something and then it's fact. Hey man, this guy is photoshopping his grow, blah blah blah. I'm not going to sit here and have anyone imply that my photos are not real. When confronted with that kind of nonsense it's "Terminate with extreme prejudice."

There is no secret to growing cannabis. It's an extremely easy to grow plant if you don't get caught up in all the fiddle faddle people do these days. I didn't do anything revolutionary by growing that plant. Anyone can do it. They just need to understand plants. New growers are more focused on brand and type of light, nutrient line, some dudes seeds on instagram. Many lack even a basic knowledge of plant anatomy. They have the latest LED, 12 bottles of Whiz Bang Nutrients, the latest 6 site super fantastic recirculating atomic drip system, apps on their phone to monitor everything, hell they can turn everything off from across the world as long as they have an internet connection. Yet many lack the ability to successfully germinate a seed and start a seedling, make a clone, or even know when to water.

There's no secret. Haven't you seen huge healthy houseplants in small containers and also small sickly houseplants in big containers? It's all in the grower and understanding the plant and what it needs and how to provide those needs efficiently and consistently.
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I've been admiring your tiny pot grows since I started out here. Blows my mind. I just took a close to four week auto out of a 6L pot into a 16" pot (something around 5 gallon due to taper) as I thought it was too small and blew everything out of proportion.
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I'm Gunna keep the one on the left in the 6L pot and see if I can keep it healthy. If you can do it in pots a third of the size, there's a possibility I can do it in 6L with plants far smaller lol.

I always tell myself I'm Gunna stick with the 8" Dia, 7" height pots to save medium as I'm hiding my op in a dorm room and then freak out around week three and up pot. I also wonder why my room smells like wet dirt lol. Three tiny autos and like 40-50l worth of medium seems overkill. Probs hits my humidity too..
 
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TheWholeTruth

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xtsho said:
I didn't chop shit. That plant was started from seed in a small 2.5" x 2.5" nursery pot and then transplanted into that 1.7 liter pot before going into a final 3 gallon pot.

I don't need 20 gallons of soil.

It was one of these.



Then I transplanted into a 1.7 liter pot.



And here it is later in the photo I posted previously.



This is after supercropping and transplanting to the 3 gallon pot. You can just see the top of the round black nursery pot.



No photoshop and no chopping roots.

If anyone's trying to challenge my integrity they failed.
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I wouldnt wory about it, some people havent really grown proper sativas, so they dont even know they will grow like that.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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VincenzioVonHook said:
I've been admiring your tiny pot grows since I started out here. Blows my mind. I just took a close to four week auto out of a 6L pot into a 16" pot (something around 5 gallon due to taper) as I thought it was too small and blew everything out of proportion.
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I'm Gunna keep the one on the left in the 6L pot and see if I can keep it healthy. If you can do it in pots a third of the size, there's a possibility I can do it in 6L with plants far smaller lol.

I always tell myself I'm Gunna stick with the 8" Dia, 7" height pots to save medium as I'm hiding my op in a dorm room and then freak out around week three and up pot. I also wonder why my room smells like wet dirt lol. Three tiny autos and like 40-50l worth of medium seems overkill. Probs hits my humidity too..
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Ciskei sativa in a three gallon fabric pot from a few years back. Excuse the mess in the greenhouse.

 
VincenzioVonHook

VincenzioVonHook

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TheWholeTruth said:
I wouldnt wory about it, some people havent really grown proper sativas, so they dont even know they will grow like that.
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My housemate went to Eswatini three years ago and saw a shit ton of landrace over there. He was mind blown at the fact that they were growing in a 30cm deep layer of basically sand, silt and red clay. The root structures were only 10-14" long and mainly one big carrot like tap root, even as 6ft plants. You could lean on them and they would basically up root themselves, but were happy as larry.

It's amazing how the Landrace from more barren areas becomes so frugal when it comes to resources. I could see how they would go well in smaller pots of less nutrient dense soil.
 
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PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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At a glance, the pics in the original post don't look the least bit trained.

Add bluer light in veg, flip early, flower clones and not seed-grown plants, train train train. . .. all really good ways to keep the Sativas in check. Oh, and keep your light lower to the plant and dimmed as needed.

** Not sure if this is true but I recall a conversation with someone who said, if you leave the lower growth & do not lollipop plants they'll stay shorter. They said not to lollipop until stretching is near-complete, which will result in removing some lowest sites already flowering. ** I put that in "stars" because it's just heresay & I can't yet prove it works.
 
Thundercat

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When I grow sativas its all about training and plant management. LST, TOPPING, Pruning to steer growth, and supports.
 
tstick

tstick

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Blue brother said:
Sorrry yeah I guess haha, but we’re metric, I just had to double check what a pound was
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It's an inside joke that started here years ago....I guess it became a common phrase...everyone's plants were yielding "about a pound" whenever it came up in a discussion and so now it's a thing. :)
 
LeastExpectedGrower

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I just moved from hybrids to something closer to full Sativas...and changed my grow strategy to be centered around keeping the plants from going too vertical.

From the start I gave 'em more than enough DLI so that the internode spacing would be tight. I topped a few times and trained them down so that they were really no more than a few inches above the bag's edges and once trained horizontally a good amount, I then flipped them so that the stretch wouldn't be overwhelming. Then further LST & supercropping as needed. I also went from growing 4 plants in my little tent to 2 plants so that I'd have horizontal room to work with.
 
Charles U Farley

Charles U Farley

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There is no secret to growing cannabis. It's an extremely easy to grow plant if you don't get caught up in all the fiddle faddle people do these days. I didn't do anything revolutionary by growing that plant. Anyone can do it. They just need to understand plants. New growers are more focused on brand and type of light, nutrient line, some dudes seeds on instagram. Many lack even a basic knowledge of plant anatomy. They have the latest LED, 12 bottles of Whiz Bang Nutrients, the latest 6 site super fantastic recirculating atomic drip system, apps on their phone to monitor everything, hell they can turn everything off from across the world as long as they have an internet connection. Yet many lack the ability to successfully germinate a seed and start a seedling, make a clone, or even know when to water.
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You just said in one paragraph what I've been trying to get across ever since I started to actually participate here on RIU, and it's been a couple months now I think.

Much, _much_ respect to you and how you handle yourself on this forum... I know I'm an old fucking dinosaur but I just now learned how I should react around here to blatantly and obvious trolling. You can teach an old dinosaur. o_O

But I've decided I'm just not going to respond at all, it's just not worth it. Briefly forgot the advice that used to be in my sig tag, "Shun The Trolls". Haven't done anything but lurk in an online forum in a very, very long time, I'm sure it shows. :o
 
Fallguy111

Fallguy111

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xtsho said:
Are you serious or joking? If you're joking it's not funny.

The picture is not fake. I didn't photoshop anything. Anyone that's seen many of my previous posts knows that I grow big plants in small pots. I shouldn't even have to explain myself.







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It's not the size of the pot but how you work it that matters. Or so I'm told.
 
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