Electric costs

[LeastExpectedGrower]

Are you in US? Us UK people are getting pumped front back and centre on fuel and energy at the moment its quite bad even food prices have rocketed we will be eating the dog soon lol

Yes, North-Eastern US. I'd guess it's less you getting screwed and more the fact that the Fed. government here does some serious fuel subsidies which keeps retail down...similar to gas pricing here vs. UK or EU.

My real expense comes during the summer when I'm running two dehumidifiers at basement level to keep that floor (grow area, large storage area, art studio & music room w/instruments), in the 50% RH or lower range.

 

[coreywebster]

Yes, North-Eastern US. I'd guess it's less you getting screwed and more the fact that the Fed. government here does some serious fuel subsidies which keeps retail down...similar to gas pricing here vs. UK or EU.

My real expense comes during the summer when I'm running two dehumidifiers at basement level to keep that floor (grow area, large storage area, art studio & music room w/instruments), in the 50% RH or lower range.

Yeah basically we've had energy price caps in the UK for ages , which are now removed.
53% rise as a result and expectations of a further 100% next year. That may or may not happen.
But with the recent price rise I'd guess average price now here is 50cents kwh at least.

 

[jondamon]

Yes, North-Eastern US. I'd guess it's less you getting screwed and more the fact that the Fed. government here does some serious fuel subsidies which keeps retail down...similar to gas pricing here vs. UK or EU.

My real expense comes during the summer when I'm running two dehumidifiers at basement level to keep that floor (grow area, large storage area, art studio & music room w/instruments), in the 50% RH or lower range.

To show you what’s just happened here.

before Christmas my direct debit to the energy supplier was £209 for both gas and electric.

they emailed me last Month as the energy price cap has been lifted to tell me my payments are increasing to £314 per month.

my usage hasn’t gone up but they can now charge 54% more than previously because the cap has been lifted.

national minimum wage has increased but so too has everything else to compensate Paying minimum wage workers more money.

National insurance (our healthcare tax) has increased by £1000 per year.

Everything here is going up.

A few weeks ago the chancellor announced a £0.05 reduction in petroleum tax per litre.

the Week before this announcement petroleum here went up £0.07 pence and In the last year we’ve seen it climb from £1.20 a litre to now £1.70 a litre.

 

[ChongMaBong]

Yeah basically we've had energy price caps in the UK for ages , which are now removed.
53% rise as a result and expectations of a further 100% next year. That may or may not happen.
But with the recent price rise I'd guess average price now here is 50cents kwh at least.

@coreywebster we need a good dodgey sparky lol

 

[coreywebster]

@coreywebster we need a good dodgey sparky lol

Haha.
Not worth the hassle for me mate.
Far less of a crime growing than it is rigging the supply and its just not as easy as it used to be the way they monitor it at various places.

 

[ChongMaBong]

To show you what’s just happened here.

before Christmas my direct debit to the energy supplier was £209 for both gas and electric.

they emailed me last Month as the energy price cap has been lifted to tell me my payments are increasing to £314 per month.

my usage hasn’t gone up but they can now charge 54% more than previously because the cap has been lifted.

national minimum wage has increased but so too has everything else to compensate Paying minimum wage workers more money.

National insurance (our healthcare tax) has increased by £1000 per year.

Everything here is going up.

A few weeks ago the chancellor announced a £0.05 reduction in petroleum tax per litre.

the Week before this announcement petroleum here went up £0.07 pence and In the last year we’ve seen it climb from £1.20 a litre to now £1.70 a litre.

Yip we getting pumped

 

[ChongMaBong]

Haha.
Not worth the hassle for me mate.
Far less of a crime growing than it is rigging the supply and its just not as easy as it used to be the way they monitor it at various places.

I was joking bud I know its not worth it if we steal off the rich we get spanked and go to jail.

 

[jondamon]

I was joking bud I know its not worth it if we steal off the rich we get spanked and go to jail.

However though remember this.

they cannot legally cut off your electricity and gas supply even if you stop paying your direct debit.

how do I know?

Because I fucking outright asked the bastards lol.

however you would have to deal with court proceedings and possible bailiffs lol.

 

[ChongMaBong]

However though remember this.

they cannot legally cut off your electricity and gas supply even if you stop paying your direct debit.

how do I know?

Because I fucking outright asked the bastards lol.

however you would have to deal with court proceedings and possible bailiffs lol.

Thats good to know fuck I be rich again well I will have money lol

 

[numberfour]

However though remember this.

they cannot legally cut off your electricity and gas supply even if you stop paying your direct debit.

how do I know?

Because I fucking outright asked the bastards lol.

however you would have to deal with court proceedings and possible bailiffs lol.

That's correct, I think its along the lines of, the leccy company rent your meter(s), the grid supplies.

Likely hood is they'd fit a smart meter and fuck you that way, you know they do pre payment on those smart meters now ?

 

[jondamon]

That's correct, I think its along the lines of, the leccy company rent your meter(s), the grid supplies.

Likely hood is they'd fit a smart meter and fuck you that way, you know they do pre payment on those smart meters now ?

No I didn’t know. But then I’ve told them to fuck off with their smart meters. I give monthly meter reads via the app. Lol.

 

[harrychilds]

I switched from LED to HPS and now the electric has gone up by 50%, so I'm back in square one again, paying ridiculous prices again on my electric

 

[ChongMaBong]

I switched from LED to HPS and now the electric has gone up by 50%, so I'm back in square one again, paying ridiculous prices again on my electric

We all in same boat bud unless your hooked up lol

 

[LeastExpectedGrower]

Here's the thing...Electric costs are what they are. You can't change that. You can only change your grow and even that you can only change so much because plants need what they need and your home/grow environment is what it is so you have to deal with those factors. You can fudge what you spend here and there depending on efficiency and/or materials, but only so much.

If you can't lay out what it takes to make it happen, then the other option is to not grow. If you're growing because of your love of using cannabis, then you need to compare what you'd spend buying it retail vs. what it costs to grow it.

Do the math, and if it doesn't add up with what you have for funding and budgeting, don't do it.

 

[numberfour]

No I didn’t know. But then I’ve told them to fuck off with their smart meters. I give monthly meter reads via the app. Lol.

I know a couple of lads who are playing the game. Paid to have their own meters installed, they no longer give a billing company readings, the grid who supply them can not cut them off.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes, I expect them in court at some point, they're not paying council tax either as the council could not prove their obligation to pay it. For obvious reasons these are non grow houses.

 

[jondamon]

I switched from LED to HPS and now the electric has gone up by 50%, so I'm back in square one again, paying ridiculous prices again on my electric

Are you still using that stupid radiator?

 

[harrychilds]

Are you still using that stupid radiator?

No lol I got rid of it when I started using my HPS bulb lol

 

[speedwell68]

Mine has gone up from 22p per kwh to 28p per kwh.

 

[jondamon]

Mine has gone up from 22p per kwh to 28p per kwh.

Mine has gone from 13ppd standing charge to 26ppd standing charge and increased kWh price from 22p to 26p.

 

[MannyPacs]

Where I am in the states, they implemented a distribution service fee at the beginning of the year that is essentially a tax of 50% on both G&E. PITA but it is what it is. I am with jonda, when I hear people with tents getting mini splits and 1000w heaters running 24/7 I usually feel like it can be solved messing with your intake/exhaust