Where are my libertarians at

[mooray]

I am familiar with the problem. To the person with a hammer-

Well it's not my only tool, but I get the point.

 

[maxamus1]

I intend to sell a product that has arsenic in its formulation. If I buy or control information outlets that may report on death and injury, if I purchase medical reports on my product, if I manage news outlets regarding arsenic deaths, all legal and proper, then I can continue to sell my product.

This is the flaw in libertarianism. The control of information.

Libertarianism depends upon truth, truth that is somehow guaranteed. The only guarantee of such truth is impartial government. We may not have perfect government bodies but they are far more reliable than anything else.

Funny how you think that's libertarianism that's what's happening now but apparently you are choosing not to see that.

 

[maxamus1]

This is flawed reasoning. "The system we have is flawed therefore only "my" system will work".

But your system consists only of a nebulous reduction in an aspect of that other system.

This is no different than my claiming that "bigger government" is the answer, without establishing a metric.

Never once said my system would but I believe that it will so keep assuming.

 

[mooray]

You're comfortable saying what libertarianism isn't, but haven't answered any questions about what you think it is.

 

[maxamus1]

Okay, “who will honestly volunteer?” The glaring problem I see is criminals volunteering and then exploiting the little guy six ways from Sunday.

You mean like what's going on now boy this seems familiar.

 

[maxamus1]

The situation I describe can happen in the absence of narcissism. Simple misinformation will do, and so will inability to correctly evaluate what one sees, either through being mentally ill or not very bright.

Yet you keep spewing misinformation.

 

[CatHedral]

You mean like what's going on now boy this seems familiar.

That is not what the post says. Nice try though.

 

[CatHedral]

Yet you keep spewing misinformation.

No. I am correcting your Net-sourced far-right echo chamber lies.

 

[maxamus1]

I did not ask for complaints about your view of where we are. That is changing the subject.

Describe how the little guy is not exploited and is protected from exploitation in a world of small government and lotsa pirates. Be realistic.

Ohhh look at the superiority complex. Yeah that wasn't changing the subject can't help you don't like the truth but there it is. Oh yeah those were not complaints, views yes complaints no. I know that's hard for you to distinguish but once again truth.


To your question, they aren't. I know hard to fathem huh. Maybe people should learn how to stand up for themselves. Yet you want to ask how small government will stop all the problems let me ask you how will large government stop all the problems? Cause they sure haven't helped yet. Hell you can't even name one place where its thriving. But want to try to down play my beliefs.

 

[maxamus1]

No. I am correcting your Net-sourced far-right echo chamber lies.

Far from it you spew far left Marxist views then try to hold em up by down playing my beliefs. With no real evidence of either working.

 

[maxamus1]

That is not what the post says. Nice try though.

Really maybe you don't understand your own post then.

 

[maxamus1]

You're comfortable saying what libertarianism isn't, but haven't answered any questions about what you think it is.

Cause to each their own you can't seem to grasp that concept. I've also said I fall more on constitutional then anything but you must of skipped that part or don't understand what that is.

Yet here we are I've also said I'm a believer of small government yet you guys can't grasp that either. I don't have two or three hours to sit and try to explain to simpletons what a small government means. Especially when you don't want to hear my opinion you just want to argue yours.

 

[CatHedral]

Far from it you spew far left Marxist views then try to hold em up by down playing my beliefs. With no real evidence of either working.

Show me one single place where I have promoted Marxism. You will not be able to. You are a liar.

 

[Sir Napsalot]

Far from it you spew far left Marxist views

Not that I've seen

 

[canndo]

You mean like what's going on now boy this seems familiar.

Here it is again. "What we have doesn't work, therefore my unexplained system will".

Faulty logic.

 

[canndo]

Funny how you think that's libertarianism that's what's happening now but apparently you are choosing not to see that.

That IS libertarianism, that IS small government. Or you can show me where it is not. I'll wait.

 

[canndo]

Nordic Countries Aren’t Actually Socialist

Denmark, Norway, and Sweden shouldn’t be held up as socialist utopias.

foreignpolicy.com

This is the logical fallacy known as "no true scottsman".

 

[canndo]

What, once you realize you can't win you start deflecting god I love you guys 10 on one and you can't handle one.

Dude, I want to play. So let's.

Please define your idea of libertarianism.


Further, let's work with a country of ten million people. How "large" shoukd the governing body of that country be? You can use numbers of members, percentage of gnp, per capita percentage, I don't know, make your own metric.

How shall this government decide upon, enact and enforce laws? How shall it check its own power? How will it fund itself?

How will the governed coexist with thus body? How will the parties evolve over time?

What compromises will the parties need to make? What are the limits to functionality?

I've never seen a libertarian actually erect a scenario, nothing but observation and criticism, you could convince me with a good model.

Have at it.

 

[CunningCanuk]

Cause to each their own you can't seem to grasp that concept. I've also said I fall more on constitutional then anything but you must of skipped that part or don't understand what that is.

Yet here we are I've also said I'm a believer of small government yet you guys can't grasp that either. I don't have two or three hours to sit and try to explain to simpletons what a small government means. Especially when you don't want to hear my opinion you just want to argue yours.

 

[maxamus1]

Show me one single place where I have promoted Marxism. You will not be able to. You are a liar.

Lol oh so you don't like when given back got cha. Then stop putting your assumption on me and I'll stop putting mine on you.