Please stop using peat products

lusidghost

lusidghost

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speedwell68 said:
I really don't want to use coco. I really like using products that are made literally in the next town. The compost I am using is made from the garden waste collected in our recycling bins and local recycling centres, taken to a depot 15 miles away, processed and sold back to the community at cost. My manure comes from a Livery stables, just up the road. A 20KG sack of rotted manure costs me £1, 150L of compost costs me £15, no delivery needed I literally drive by the point of production on my daily commute. So for £16 I have enough medium for at least a couple of full runs. The same in Coco would cost me nearly £39 plus delivery, the nearest shop that sells it is 60 miles away. With Coco I would have to use nutrients from day one, with my mix I can go for weeks on plain water and then get by on some very basic feed I can get from literally anywhere.
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I'm not trying to talk you out of using local soil. That's great. I'm saying coco isn't going to be the straw that breaks the planet's back. Especially if used conservatively.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Try straight coco. Then you won't have to use perlite.
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lusidghost said:
Just use coco without perlite? I don't use peat, perlite or hydrotron. Coco is light and compresses into bricks. It also grows all around the world, so shipping doesn't have to be from a single area on the other side of the globe.
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You really don't need perlite with coco. I stopped using perlite a long time ago. I hate that stuff. Decent coco is fine without it. Adding perlite just makes it dry out faster requiring more frequent waterings. There is plenty of aeration with just straight coco. I think many people just add it because most people do and most of the coco sites say to add it. I banned perlite from my property years ago and don't miss it at all.
 
lusidghost

lusidghost

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xtsho said:
You really don't need perlite with coco. I stopped using perlite a long time ago. I hate that stuff. Decent coco is fine without it. Adding perlite just makes it dry out faster requiring more frequent waterings. There is plenty of aeration with just straight coco. I think many people just add it because most people do and most of the coco sites say to add it. I banned perlite from my property years ago and don't miss it at all.
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I've never used it and have never understood why others do. Coco dries out quickly as is. Like you said, it just seems like a waste of water in the end.
 
Tas devil

Tas devil

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I like using coco/perlite and have had good results using it.its just a pita atm till i set up a drip system.im feeding once a day in 4 gals.will try 3 gals next.later on i will try promix to save on nutes watering etc ,other than that it works very well for me..
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

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lusidghost said:
I'm saying coco isn't going to be the straw that breaks the planet's back. Especially if used conservatively.
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No it isn't, you are right. But...

Since the start of covid I have looked hard at how I live my life. I like motorsport, that is really bad for the environment. I like classic cars, especially when fitted with carburettors that suck fuel for a laugh. So to offset that we have changed our lifestyle accordingly.

I have reduced our waste to landfill to virtually nothing. I have trebeled the amount we recycle. I have moved our electricity to a company that only uses renewable tariffs. I have reduced are home electricity consumption to half of what we used before I started growing. I have an off grid solar system that will run my fridge and freezer during the summer months and just the freezer in the winter.

We grow as much fruit and veg as possible. The rest of our garden is now an urban meadow, to aid pollinators. My house is now fitted with a sustainable heating system that burns waste wood. I am restoring a classic VW Camper and refitting it with all modern systems. I can live off grid in it for weeks on end powered only on solar. I have also modernised the engine myself and it now does 13 mpg more than when I bought it.

I have halved our annual mileage in our car and I try to buy everything I can locally.

Aside from electricity I want my grows to be 100% sustainable. I now have so many seeds I am going to start cloning more, as I don't. In theory I should be able to do as many grows as I want using products that were produced in the same postcode.

That is my bag.
 
Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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mudballs said:
There was an eclipse?! I was out chillin with a friend and a blunt and it was this beautiful fullish moonlit cloudless night
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I dident know either. I think I saw it out my window as I was falling asleep last night though around 3am. Noticed it looked different.
 
GoingGreenVirginia

GoingGreenVirginia

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MAGpie81 said:
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www.worldatlas.com

The Peatland Ecosystem: The Planet's Most Efficient Natural Carbon Sink

An accumulation of partially decayed organic matter in areas like peatlands, bogs, moors results in the formation of a peatland ecosystem.
www.worldatlas.com www.worldatlas.com
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This is moot unless you are burning or otherwise breaking it down in way that the carbon is released. Using for a soil base isn't doing that. Growing plants in peat is green, well until factor in the power for indoor grows and procuring it.
 
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EarthAngel

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mudballs said:
Nihlist? Yes it's all disposable, including me, you, everything...the world will balance itself when pushed to the edge and since i love God more than you, or any of the other fkn retards that complicate my daily life, i want Earth to bitch slap us even faster...but i will be able to stand in front of you and everyone here and say "bitch i did my part"
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So doing your part is being a cracker toward low class workers?
 
Rurumo

Rurumo

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Horticultural peat isn't even a drop in the bucket in terms of pressure on Canadian peat bogs. Fires this year alone burned up more peat bogs than have ever disappeared due to horticultural peat sales. All of that land needs to be reseeded with living peat to get the carbon sink rolling again. These bogs take a long time to form naturally.
 
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