legitimacy of strains in breeder crosses

MyBallzItch

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Plus if you got enough money that 10k don't mean shit for you then I really doubt you'd be working in a grow room.

No body is gonna pay garden labor 200k a year type salaries.
People I know would laugh at the quick 10k because they know they will make a LOT more than that but staying loyal. I'm talking about people who don't have a lot of money but know they will get a percentage when the crop is pulled.

If u can't understand that, I wouldn't want u(not u personally just speaking universally) around me. If I have something that is that valuable I wouldn't let anyone around it I couldn't trust more than 10k.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough about what I meant about laugh at a quick 10k lol they don't let the employees at kfc know the special seasonings... Same concept
 
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PJ Diaz

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People I know would laugh at the quick 10k because they know they will make a LOT more than that but staying loyal. I'm talking about people who don't have a lot of money but know they will get a percentage when the crop is pulled.

If u can't understand that, I wouldn't want u around me. If I have something that is that valuable I wouldn't let anyone around it I couldn't trust more than 10k.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough about what I meant about laugh at a quick 10k lol they don't let the employees at kfc know the special seasonings... Same concept
Your situation is atypical. BTW, the special seasoning at KFC is MSG.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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People I know would laugh at the quick 10k because they know they will make a LOT more than that but staying loyal. I'm talking about people who don't have a lot of money but know they will get a percentage when the crop is pulled.

If u can't understand that, I wouldn't want u(not u personally just speaking universally) around me. If I have something that is that valuable I wouldn't let anyone around it I couldn't trust more than 10k.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough about what I meant about laugh at a quick 10k lol they don't let the employees at kfc know the special seasonings... Same concept
If its an illegal grow with a crew I get where you're coming from but out of all the rec grows and dispensaries Ive seen none operate with folks getting "a percentage of the grow". Most employees get paid 15 bucks an hour.
 

PJ Diaz

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Even if a crop tender gets paid $20/hr, that $10k for a snip is 3 months worth of salary, and it's not like the garden is actually losing any product as a result. Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying this practice, but you can see how a $20/hr worker could easily justify this for themselves. I mean shit, $10k is $10k, who can't use $10k?
 

MyBallzItch

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Even if a crop tender gets paid $20/hr, that $10k for a snip is 3 months worth of salary, and it's not like the garden is actually losing any product as a result. Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying this practice, but you can see how a $20/hr worker could easily justify this for themselves. I mean shit, $10k is $10k, who can't use $10k?
There are definitely enough slimey snakes who aren't smart enough to know they are cutting off their nose but Im having a hard time believing anyone who has a 10k cut they don't want to get out is just hiring minimum wage help off Craigslist but I am rarely the smartest person in the room so I'll just leave u fellas to it
 

PJ Diaz

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Im having a hard time believing anyone who has a 10k cut they don't want to get out is just hiring minimum wage help off Craigslist but I am rarely the smartest person in the room so I'll just leave u fellas to it
Well first of all $20 isn't minimum wage anywhere in the US. Secondly, no one said anything about hiring randoms off CL. Bro, you never had a trusted mate stab you in the back? If not, consider yourself lucky, it happens all the time.


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PJ Diaz

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If u have something that someone is willing to pay 10k for and you think u can pay someone 20/hr and trust them to take care of your expensive prized possession... Is probably y u get stabbed in the back. The people who are guarding the hope diamond get paid more than the people guarding the home depot. It sounds like u r the type of person to steal from your homeboy for 10k lol to each their own I suppose

People try and hire trimmers for cheap every year... And then wonder why they keep getting robbed lol
Hey there Mr Itchyballs, I never said that I would steal from my homeboy for $10k, I'm explaining the rational of others. There's also a big difference between stealing $10k, and stealing a cut that you can sell for $10k. Sorry you can't understand the difference. So, how much do you think these guys pay their gardeners anyway? I'm getting the feeling that you don't really understand how much it costs to hire people, or how much labor is necessary for a major garden operation.
 

PJ Diaz

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And it sounds like you have either never had anything that's valuable that you want to protect... Or u r just a snake trying to justify stealing something valuable from your partner. To each their own though. If you ever find yourself with anything of value make sure you compensate whoever you expect to care for it.
The ability to view a situation from another person's perspective is not the same as justifying said perspective.

I always pay my workers as much as possible, and they appreciate it. It's true that I don't have a clone worth $10k, I only have audio/video gear worth $100k.
 

MyBallzItch

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The ability to view a situation from another person's perspective is not the same as justifying said perspective.

I always pay my workers as much as possible, and they appreciate it. It's true that I don't have a clone worth $10k, I only have audio/video gear worth $100k.
Hey man my bad I literally have no idea what happened there. Had a little stress irl and all of a sudden turned into a bitch on here. My bad brodie sometimes I get sensitive or some shit
 

Observe & Report

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1) People usually have a disgruntled "Ex Worker who steal cut/ Take snip or two .
[Connected ] Smarties got out ****
And I think Dandango1 use to be there****

2) The next way is two partners that went separate ways.

3) People find a seed in there bud from a batch that wasn't grown the best and had seed in the bud.
You forgot the fourth way, someone takes an old cut and passes it along as the Cut of the Month. It just has to pass through a few hands before coming to the breeder via someone they "trust 100%" and it ends up being chucked. Breeders are under intense pressure to make chucks with parents people are shopping for.

Look at how many renames of OG Kush and GSC were submitted to Phylos. Some well known industry personalities sent in multiple samples of OGK under different names. They probably had those cuttings for years, growing them "side by side," without realizing they were the same and nothing mare than good ol' OG.
 

Lightgreen2k

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You forgot the fourth way, someone takes an old cut and passes it along as the Cut of the Month. It just has to pass through a few hands before coming to the breeder via someone they "trust 100%" and it ends up being chucked. Breeders are under intense pressure to make chucks with parents people are shopping for.

Look at how many renames of OG Kush and GSC were submitted to Phylos. Some well known industry personalities sent in multiple samples of OGK under different names. They probably had those cuttings for years, growing them "side by side," without realizing they were the same and nothing mare than good ol' OG.
There is a company medicinal.genomics that maps peoples cuts to make sure they are legit.. They do just more than that, but here.

 

Autodoctor

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I will say this sounds like the ball python world when crossing genes and I have personally bred and seen where one guy says never gave out any but have seen they did and just say that to keep their prices from being cut by the other guy
 

Observe & Report

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I forgot about Kannapedia. I couldn't find a single genotype that was added to the database after 2016.

As much as I'd like to see genotype databases be successful, I can't see it happening any more. Breeders are reluctant to make the genotypes of their acquired cuttings public because the damage to their reputation for having a fake cut is way bigger than the benefits of having a verified cut. I can also see breeders sending in filials of their real breeder cuts before destroying them, just so nobody can claim to have the real cutting in case it gets out.
 

MyBallzItch

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You forgot the fourth way, someone takes an old cut and passes it along as the Cut of the Month. It just has to pass through a few hands before coming to the breeder via someone they "trust 100%" and it ends up being chucked. Breeders are under intense pressure to make chucks with parents people are shopping for.

Look at how many renames of OG Kush and GSC were submitted to Phylos. Some well known industry personalities sent in multiple samples of OGK under different names. They probably had those cuttings for years, growing them "side by side," without realizing they were the same and nothing mare than good ol' OG.
I feel like "Birthday cake/wedding cake" is probably a good example of that. Everybody wanted jb wedding cake and then all of a sudden people are selling "wedding cake" that is at best the "birthday cake kush" cut that had been around for a handful of years by that point.

There is a good portion of people who have even grown a couple plants that think wedding cake is indeed cherry pie x gsc because that's what Google and ilgm tells them
 
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