Lisa Monaco

[mooray]

But you also don't have to cross the atlantic to be immersed in bearded authoritarian bigots.

 

[rkymtnman]

You haven't lived until you are like 8 and hanging out placing bets on cock fights

I won a bunch off Little Jerry Seinfeld. Til they brought in a ringer...

 

[CatHedral]

But you also don't have to cross the atlantic to be immersed in bearded authoritarian bigots.

I lost you. Please fill me in.

 

[HGCC]

OK not sure how to get a Very Different perspective when you are still in the realm of “hot” and “cold” taps right there next to each other.

Perspective isn't quite the right word...lifestyle maybe? Can't quite come up with the right way to phrase or explain it. I don't think you have to go to undeveloped and/or poor places to expand it though.

Edit: just seeing as much of the world as you can and recognizing and respecting different ways to live.

 

[rkymtnman]

OK not sure how to get a Very Different perspective when you are still in the realm of “hot” and “cold” taps right there next to eachg other.

Peru can't handle toilet paper in their pipes so you put your used TP in a garbage can instead. My wife and daughter took a few days to get over that drama.

 

[CatHedral]

Perspective isn't quite the right word...lifestyle maybe? Can't quite come up with the right way to phrase or explain it. I don't think you have to go to undeveloped and/or poor places to expand it though.

I suspect you do. It is a surprise to most Westerners when a comfort or commodity they have known since birth is suddenly absent or expensive. My quick criterion is plumbing.

 

[CatHedral]

I suspect you do. It is a surprise to most Westerners when a comfort or commodity they have known since birth is suddenly absent or expensive. My quick criterion is plumbing.

So if the plumbing is familiar, there is no big impetus to think of the place youre at as really different.

 

[rkymtnman]

So if the plumbing is familiar, there is no big impetus to think of the place youre at as really different.

i'd kinda agree.

have you had the pleasure of using a squat toilet before? one with TP or one with a water hose?

 

[mooray]

I lost you. Please fill me in.

Nope. Been there, done that. Something will be confusing, which apparently has already happened, and then we'll digress about nonsense for an hour. I'd rather just say, "my apologies" and bypass all that.

 

[CatHedral]

i'd kinda agree.

have you had the pleasure of using a squat toilet before? one with TP or one with a water hose?

A surprisingly small bucket. It made for all sorts of optimal-use calculations while adjusting to an unfamiliar diet.

 

[CatHedral]

A surprisingly small bucket. It made for all sorts of optimal-use calculations while adjusting to an unfamiliar diet.

Shame. I was hoping for intel on local bearded-zealot populations.

 

[HGCC]

Maybe, that certainly is the way to make it most jarring and show the greatest difference...but I am not sure it helps develop perspective, appreciation for other cultures, world view, etc by default. People with a certain predisposition to embrace those things go to developing countries and get that sort of thing out of it...others don't.

This is sort of a bad example, but we have sent 18 year old kids off to a bunch of places without plumbing when they join the army...I don't know anyone that developed an appreciation of the middle east and their way of life just by going. *terrible example

 

[topcat]

i'd kinda agree.

have you had the pleasure of using a squat toilet before? one with TP or one with a water hose?

Uh, oh. Now you're going to be called out by someone who's lost, looking to get advice on growing. "Waah, I want to know about flushing."

 

[rkymtnman]

Uh, oh. Now you're going to be called out by someone who's lost, looking to get advice on growing. "Waah, I want to know about flushing."

about a pound.

 

[HGCC]

Sorry for derail @schuylaar

 

[CatHedral]

Maybe, that certainly is the way to make it most jarring and show the greatest difference...but I am not sure it helps develop perspective, appreciation for other cultures, world view, etc by default. People with a certain predisposition to embrace those things go to developing countries and get that sort of thing out of it...others don't.

This is sort of a bad example, but we have sent 18 year old kids off to a bunch of places without plumbing when they join the army...I don't know anyone that developed an appreciation of the middle east and their way of life just by going. *terrible example

In that case I am curious to know what developed place would scratch the “very different” itch, and why.

 

[CunningCanuk]

I would move/leave the country. Not sure if forever, but would have no problem leaving for a few years. Only request is the country be very different from America in terms of culture and experience. I wouldn't want to go live in England or Canada for example, neither are going to be that different than here. Australia is a mixed bag, idk.

It would be great to learn a new language, I agree.

 

[topcat]

Lisa Monaco..Lisa Monaco..now don't tell me..i'm not googling my neurons need their synapse..ohhhhhhhhh THAT Lisa Monaco

how is it people can decline Congressional Hearings?

Citation? Maybe ask Mark Meadows?

 

[HGCC]

In that case I am curious to know what developed place would scratch the “very different” itch, and why.

Well looking at it in the context of "very different"...I'm going to concede. I would toss Japan or China out as developed but offering a different experience, though yeah...not all that different.

 

[CatHedral]

Well looking at it in the context of "very different"...I'm going to concede. I would toss Japan or China out as developed but offering a different experience, though yeah...not all that different.

What I can tell you is that toilets in some Central European nations have an inspection shelf, high and dry.