Defoliation the first few leafs

Wastei

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Can you point out this Google search where I have used others work?
Sure can do! Well we can start with your relabelling of proven hydro techniques. I've seen you call NFT "nutrient trickling technique" and referring to the hanging gardens in Babylon?

You will find all your "statements and work" in this article. https://www.quantumhydroponicservices.net/about . It's more or less a straight copy paste from your part.

If you actually check the source of posted info on that site it refers to a paper from 1922. I mean we've come a long way since then and I believe you can find any written source to prove your point. That doesn't mean its true or have practical application.
 
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rkymtnman

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Self PHIng nutrient used straight out of the bottle
that's not what you told me before. you said ph didn't matter in your grow. it could be 4 or 7 and it wouldn't matter. you also said with your technique you could feed tiny seedlings 2EC w/o burning which we now know is bullshit.

which is why i led you down this path: i figured you knew your ph was in range.

caught you again, mrs hat.

set your pH at 4 for the next 2 weeks and let's see if pH matters or not.
and no thanks, i don't want your old set-up. mine works just fine as is.
 

harrythehat

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that's not what you told me before. you said ph didn't matter in your grow. it could be 4 or 7 and it wouldn't matter. you also said with your technique you could feed tiny seedlings 2EC w/o burning which we now know is bullshit.

which is why i led you down this path: i figured you knew your ph was in range.

caught you again, mrs hat.

set your pH at 4 for the next 2 weeks and let's see if pH matters or not.
and no thanks, i don't want your old set-up. mine works just fine as is.
M8 I do not set my PH I use a self PHIng nutrient which brings it down to around 7. Well that's what it used to be when I did bother to check it
Range of PH is as you say anywhere between 4/7
Why would I bother to set my PH lower when it's fine where it is
And I can and do set seeds of @ 2.0 EC. These were indeed started at 2.0 and they got broiled for 26 days which made them nutrient sensitive.
Now I could not give a cunt wether you believe this or not that is what happened then the left tank got a further 48 hours of root burning. Too which now they are pulling back.
Have tried being nice and will continue until you troll.
Then you will be fucked off OK.
If you don't like what you see go and play with your toys, but be careful how you Chuck them out off the pram
 

harrythehat

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Sure can do! Well we can start with your relabelling of proven hydro techniques. I've seen you call NFT "nutrient trickling technique" and referring to the hanging gardens in Babylon?

You will find all your "statements and work" in this article. https://www.quantumhydroponicservices.net/about . It's more or less a straight copy paste from your part.

If you actually check the source of posted info on that site it refers to a paper from 1922. I mean we've come a long way since then and I believe you can find any written source to prove your point. That doesn't mean its true or have practical application.
NFT is NFT. It cannot be NTT
Have you not worked that one out yet.?
NFT is nutrient film technique. Which means there is a film of nutrient going across the growing surface.
N.T.T. is nutrient trickling IE like a small stream or brook.
Have you looked at the equipment.
It's not possible to get a nutrient film in what they use and looks more likely it would be a small stream or brook.
Sort of blows your NFT idea out of the water doesn't it.

Sorry we have come a long way since 1922
Can you explain that?
Maybe DWC and aeroponics may have been developed in that time but the majority is soil in pots is that such a leap in technology?
 

Tvanmunhen

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NFT is NFT. It cannot be NTT
Have you not worked that one out yet.?
NFT is nutrient film technique. Which means there is a film of nutrient going across the growing surface.
N.T.T. is nutrient trickling IE like a small stream or brook.
Have you looked at the equipment.
It's not possible to get a nutrient film in what they use and looks more likely it would be a small stream or brook.
Sort of blows your NFT idea out of the water doesn't it.

Sorry we have come a long way since 1922
Can you explain that?
Maybe DWC and aeroponics may have been developed in that time but the majority is soil in pots is that such a leap in technology?
 

harrythehat

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that's not what you told me before. you said ph didn't matter in your grow. it could be 4 or 7 and it wouldn't matter. you also said with your technique you could feed tiny seedlings 2EC w/o burning which we now know is bullshit.

which is why i led you down this path: i figured you knew your ph was in range.

caught you again, mrs hat.

set your pH at 4 for the next 2 weeks and let's see if pH matters or not.
and no thanks, i don't want your old set-up. mine works just fine as is.
Could you bring up my words that I actually wrote down, and quote them please
Because All I am seeing is you twisting what has been said to suit your own purpose.

Nowhere have I said PH could be run at 4.
The only times you see PH that low is run off where the substrate has lowered the initial 6.1 yes I have read these threads.

Yes I have said a seed can be started @ 2.0 no problems. Even if I showed you. You would not believe it. Yes I do start my seedlings @2.0 and generally run using those figures. Unless like this time I made a cock up

When you quote bring up the actual words. Not something your mind has hashed together
 

Wastei

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NFT is NFT. It cannot be NTT
Have you not worked that one out yet.?
NFT is nutrient film technique. Which means there is a film of nutrient going across the growing surface.
N.T.T. is nutrient trickling IE like a small stream or brook.
Have you looked at the equipment.
It's not possible to get a nutrient film in what they use and looks more likely it would be a small stream or brook.
Sort of blows your NFT idea out of the water doesn't it.

Sorry we have come a long way since 1922
Can you explain that?
Maybe DWC and aeroponics may have been developed in that time but the majority is soil in pots is that such a leap in technology?
You're free to stand in your own corner while everyone else laugh and scratch their head by your reasoning. If supposed "N.T.T" is different from NFT and so much superior. Where's your superior results?
 

harrythehat

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You're free to stand in your own corner while everyone else laugh and scratch their head by your reasoning. If supposed "N.T.T" is different from NFT and so much superior. Where's your superior results?
Don't I just know that and I do. Can only say save the venom watch and see.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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You can react against what I am doing I don't have a problem with that.
Remember though.
Whatever you write. You could be eating your words.
Your plants in veg look absolutely awful. You expect us to believe they are just going to magically get better and have no issues in flower? If you can't veg a plant correctly they don't stand a chance in flower. Good luck with your advanced growing skills.
 

Wastei

Well-Known Member
NFT is NFT. It cannot be NTT
Have you not worked that one out yet.?
NFT is nutrient film technique. Which means there is a film of nutrient going across the growing surface.
N.T.T. is nutrient trickling IE like a small stream or brook.
Have you looked at the equipment.
It's not possible to get a nutrient film in what they use and looks more likely it would be a small stream or brook.
Sort of blows your NFT idea out of the water doesn't it.

Sorry we have come a long way since 1922
Can you explain that?
Maybe DWC and aeroponics may have been developed in that time but the majority is soil in pots is that such a leap in technology?
Sure can do, I like history! All major studies regarding plant health and nutrient ratios has been done in the 20th century. The ammonium nitrate business and bounded minerals is relatively new historically and started being manufacturerd by Norsk Hydro in the late 19th and early 20th .

In the early 20th century we gave Cocaine to children's, I think you're the only one not learning from your own past mistakes.

Have you been in a cult or been homeschooled? Seem like you've been living under a rock when I have to explain the technological leaps in the past century? Are you for real Harry?
 

rkymtnman

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Yes I have said a seed can be started @ 2.0 no problems. Even if I showed you. You would not believe it. Yes I do start my seedlings @2.0 and generally run using those figures. Unless like this time I made a cock up
ok, i see your game hairy.

i can start my seeds at 5EC. i do it all the time. i've got a lot of flow. just this one i messed up and i burnt them. but you should believe me that i always start my seeds at 5.
 

rkymtnman

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the wisdom of Hairy:

Even E.C. is not critical. With a growing plant these numbers can rise 24/26/28 and still not burn the roots.
correct. you didn't burn the roots, you burnt the leaves. lmao.
 

rkymtnman

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more good stuff from Hairy:

Personally i do not adjust P.H. and dont have any problems it comes in @ 7 and quite happy with that and does not fluctuate with 9 being the upper limit before problems appear.

please run those tiny plants at pH of 9 for the next 2 weeks, ok??
 

rkymtnman

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when you kill those plants after running at 9 for 2 weeks, i'll be a good sport and send you a few grams to make up for your lost harvest. deal?
 
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