What has Trump done to this country?
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DIY-HP-LED
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Organizing can turn that tactic on it's head and most voter suppression tactics, except removing polling places and even then it can be dealt with.
Win the senate and pass HR-1 and other federal laws to make it a federal crime to violate the voting rights of citizens. Even though states run elections, American citizens have rights under federal law and the constitution that states cannot abrogate, charge them with conspiracy if they conspire to disenfranchise votes and impose mandatory minimum 5 year sentences.
TacoMac
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Fun fact: the majority of people purged from voting rolls in Georgia were white.
Jimdamick
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Link please
DIY-HP-LED
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There's a book out on it called rat fucked, by one of the people involved in the gerrymandering scheme, many states have been rat fucked as soon as the republicans gain control. You are seeing democratic governors in many of them though and if their corrupt senators happen to be imprisoned, the democrat can appoint the replacement and since senate races are statewide...
Ratf**ked: The True Story Behind The... book by David Daley (thriftbooks.com)
Ratf**ked : The True Story Behind the Secret Plan to Steal America's Democracy
Book Overview
In November 2008, as the electoral returns roiled in, America was stunned by what, from modem standards, amounted to a landslide election for Barack Obama. Pundits proclaimed the Republican Party as dead as the Whigs of yesteryear. Yet, as the media swooned, a small cadre of Republican operatives was already laying the groundwork to paint the electoral map bright red. As David Daley reveals in Ratfked, the Republicans, by 2012, had redrawn the congressional map so effectively that their house majority was guaranteed through 2020, regardless of the public will. How is this possible? What has happened to corrode the notion of one-person, one-vote?
Ratfked documents the far-reaching effects of the Republicans' audacious REDMAP strategy, which has radically altered America's electoral map and has created a firewall in the House, insulating the GOP and its wealthy donors from popular democracy-and pushing our politics to dangerously dysfunctional extremes. RatfKing: An American Slang Term for Political Sabotage First Invoked in the 1920s and Later Popularized by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein in all the President's Men.
TacoMac
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Link please
AJC analysis finds which voters were removed from state’s voter rolls
In Georgia’s most populous counties, a removal of registered voters from the state’s voter rolls largely falls along demographic lines, but affects white voters and younger voters at slightly higher rates, according to an analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
www.ajc.com
In Georgia’s most populous counties, a removal of registered voters from the state’s voter rolls largely falls along demographic lines, but affects white voters and younger voters at slightly higher rates, according to an analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
DIY-HP-LED
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It is intentions that are the main concern and purging voter rolls casts a broad net and includes many outside the "target" groups. Does it affect democratic districts and black voters more?AJC analysis finds which voters were removed from state’s voter rolls
In Georgia’s most populous counties, a removal of registered voters from the state’s voter rolls largely falls along demographic lines, but affects white voters and younger voters at slightly higher rates, according to an analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
In Georgia’s most populous counties, a removal of registered voters from the state’s voter rolls largely falls along demographic lines, but affects white voters and younger voters at slightly higher rates, according to an analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Taking the demographics into account of course.
What was the intention behind the purge and was the tactic used in the past by the same people to try and disenfranchise voters? Are polling stations equally distributed?
Do black voters stand in line for hours while those in white republican districts just walk in to vote at plentiful polling stations?
The best predictor of future behavior is past performance.
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hanimmal
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Makes me curious if it was the last remnant of the Dixiecrats pulling up the ladder behind them as they became Republicans.
https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia_State_Senate
DIY-HP-LED
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How long ago? They haven't been running the show there for awhile, the last democratic governor was in 1999 and since Obama became president they went solid red in the legislature. Before Obama the racists were divided between the parties, since Obama the racist ran to the right and it shows in the Georgia state house and senate. They were all in for Trump too, so it's apparent what drives their politics, racism, they went from blue and mixed red to solid red. When Obama became president, most racist left the democrats and went to the republicans, even the dixiecrat hold outs from the republican southern strategy. When Trump became POTUS it put the seal on their motives and intentions, it also explains the continued support for the republicans, anywhere in America, not just Georgia.
TacoMac
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It amazes me the wild, off the cuff, completely bullshit guesses you make.
It was done in the '90's when the Clinton's were in power and democrats ran the state.
DIY-HP-LED
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He didn't guess he used data to make his point and you can't seem to make an argument without hurling insults at people.
Yeah, but the trend is obvious, what terrible thing did they do to cause such a profound swing? Why hasn't it swung back as the power of black people in the democratic party increased? Looks like the the fruition of the southern strategy to me, just by looking at the data and considering the history of extreme racism in the place. It's mostly demographic changes that are leading to change, racism is still entrenched there and driving republican support. The difference now is the parties are polarized and the republicans are now a largely racist organization and the democrats are not. Something is driving these republicans towards fascism and self destruction, strong emotions like fear and hate do that.
Nobody votes for Trump in 2020 unless they are a racist, mentally unstable or an idiot. Give me a reason other than that, provided you can keep a civil tongue in your head and can handle being wrong.
hanimmal
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You make it seem like that was an anomaly, is that link wrong to say that Democrats held control over the state forever before it finally switched to Republicans in the 2000's?
Doesn't seem that wild of a curiosity.
TacoMac
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The Dixiecrats existed for a matter of months back in 1948.
That was a stupid, baseless and moronic comment to make.
hanimmal
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Really, they were not almost exclusively white men in charge of the Democratic party prior to 2000's?
Just because I don't have the correct terminology (because I am not from there and have not looked into Georgia politics, ever), and didn't just jump to the bunch of 'fucking racists running things for all time' in Georgia language, and that they realized they needed to consolidate back into the Republican party in the new millennium, doesn't mean that it is that really that hard for someone to understand what I was saying.
You've been kind of a dick lately, you doing ok man?
TacoMac
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Like I said before, your complete, off the cuff bullshit. That's why you probably are unaware that if you were to use that term here today in public you would have had the ever loving shit kicked out of you by anybody that heard it.
We take the Dixiecrat reference about the same way the typical German would take being called a Nazi. If you have no idea what you're talking about, look it up first.
hanimmal
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So, you did understand what I meant, but just took offense. Noted. Thank you for the grammar lesson.
Doesn't mean that if it is what you say, that the Democrats started the purging of registered people, that it was not done as a way to keep power in the Republicans hands after the more racist elements of the then Democratic party lost power. Or was it something that the Republicans used as a way to do something that the Democrats didn't realize it would be used to do (like when the Republicans used the change the Democrats made to get Obama's appointments through with 51 votes for the Trump Supreme court picks).
Doesn't make it true either. But knowing what they did with the Southern Strategy and with Obama's picks, it does seem likely that some shenanigans were at play for the current ways it is being used.