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TerrapinBlazin

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Does this look concerning to anyone else? This is what I suspected might be spider mites and it’s getting a little worse. It’s only on a few lower branches of one plant. I’m about to spray the shit out of my flower tent. I need to get those nematodes, and I’m about to call some nurseries. I’m wondering if I should buy one more pack or not. I think I might be set as far as GPS gear goes.
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nc208

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Does this look concerning to anyone else? This is what I suspected might be spider mites and it’s getting a little worse. It’s only on a few lower branches of one plant. I’m about to spray the shit out of my flower tent. I need to get those nematodes, and I’m about to call some nurseries. I’m wondering if I should buy one more pack or not. I think I might be set as far as GPS gear goes.
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Extremely concerning.
If you could get a clearer pic to 100% ID.

I wouldnt recommend spraying in flower. If its 100% mites you may need to kill the infected plants asap and watch others to see if any are there. Order Beneficials like Persimillis to control plants that don't look infected as well as Nematodes are always great.

Some folks go nuclear and kill the entire area to rid them. I hope this isn't your case.

Also the big infected leaf looks like it has a tiny green caterpillar on it.
 

TerrapinBlazin

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Extremely concerning.
If you could get a clearer pic to 100% ID.

I wouldnt recommend spraying in flower. If its 100% mites you may need to kill the infected plants asap and watch others to see if any are there. Order Beneficials like Persimillis to control plants that don't look infected as well as Nematodes are always great.

Some folks go nuclear and kill the entire area to rid them. I hope this isn't your case.

Also the big infected leaf looks like it has a tiny green caterpillar on it.
No caterpillars that I can see. People over in the outdoor forum have told me you can spray spinosad up to the final week in flowering, which is how I had planned to fight the caterpillars that invade in late flowering out here.

FWIW I was thinking of aborting that plant anyway, because the buds aren’t looking very good and the plant takes up a lot of space. First pic is the affected grape punch in question. Second pic is the bodega that was flipped on the same day. This grape punch is the only plant with damage and I think aborting is the prudent measure.
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nc208

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No caterpillars that I can see. People over in the outdoor forum have told me you can spray spinosad up to the final week in flowering, which is how I had planned to fight the caterpillars that invade in late flowering out here.

FWIW I was thinking of aborting that plant anyway, because the buds aren’t looking very good and the plant takes up a lot of space.
Yep, alot of those bottles all advertise you can spray up until the day before harvest or the week before harvest. Once buds are forming they absorb whatever is sprayed on them. Some folks don't care about pesticides on their bud but I certainly do. Its half the reason I grow my own so I know exactly what I'm putting into it.
 

TerrapinBlazin

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Yep, alot of those bottles all advertise you can spray up until the day before harvest or the week before harvest. Once buds are forming they absorb whatever is sprayed on them. Some folks don't care about pesticides on their bud but I certainly do. Its half the reason I grow my own so I know exactly what I'm putting into it.
The way it was explained to me is that it takes a few days for the plant to metabolize it. I dunno if the buds actually trap and preserve the spinosad, but everything I’ve read suggests that it’s highly mobile. I don’t think I would spray after week 6, but the two bodegas look good and I don’t see any leaf damage, so I’ll take a chance at spraying them once to keep any potential nasties from spreading. I think the grape punch needs to be aborted and I’m just going to go ahead and do it.
 

nc208

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The way it was explained to me is that it takes a few days for the plant to metabolize it. I dunno if the buds actually trap and preserve the spinosad, but everything I’ve read suggests that it’s highly mobile. I don’t think I would spray after week 6, but the two bodegas look good and I don’t see any leaf damage, so I’ll take a chance at spraying them once to keep any potential nasties from spreading. I think the grape punch needs to be aborted and I’m just going to go ahead and do it.
Well I put it this way. Our LPS have to have their weed tested to be compliant and they're tests always show these sprays in the final product so I don't personally believe that buds don't absorb it. I trust the science of testing vs what ppl have always said.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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The way it was explained to me is that it takes a few days for the plant to metabolize it. I dunno if the buds actually trap and preserve the spinosad, but everything I’ve read suggests that it’s highly mobile. I don’t think I would spray after week 6, but the two bodegas look good and I don’t see any leaf damage, so I’ll take a chance at spraying them once to keep any potential nasties from spreading. I think the grape punch needs to be aborted and I’m just going to go ahead and do it.
If you can score a bunch of lady bugs they'll go ape shot on those mites! Or predator mites will work too but may need more time to establish.
 

TerrapinBlazin

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If you can score a bunch of lady bugs they'll go ape shot on those mites! Or predator mites will work too but may need more time to establish.
Wish I had read this before I went to the nursery. They sell all that stuff there and they’re 5 minutes from my house. I picked up a pack of nematodes and treated everything. Maybe I’ll go back for some ladybugs. I’ll just have to take the fungus gnat trap out so it doesn’t catch the ladybugs. I’d much rather use bio control over sprays if I have the choice. Some of my local dispensaries list pyrethrin right on the label in their lab analysis and they don’t give a fuck. Pyrethrin and neem oil are two that I won’t use no matter what.

So I can just turn ladybugs loose in my tents and they’ll stay established in there? Do regular ladybugs work as well as the black ones that specifically eat spider mites?
 
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TerrapinBlazin

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Nematode treatment is complete. The nursery down the street sells the good stuff. They could probably special order the Stethorus ladybugs for me. This one pack was enough for a 5 gallon bucket, according to the directions, which treated every single plant plus my indoor compost.
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So that grape punch got cut down and fed to the goats. The soil was added back into the compost bin before the nematodes were added. I checked all my other plants really carefully and didn’t see any other leaf damage. Now I’ve got my two indica dominant chem pies in there. The one in back is the one I’ve been referring to as the wedding pie leaner. She smells like intense grapefruit. The one in front smells more stardawggy. The other big stardawg leaning chem pie is outside and loving it. I’ll post some pics when she starts budding.
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nc208

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Wish I had read this before I went to the nursery. They sell all that stuff there and they’re 5 minutes from my house. I picked up a pack of nematodes and treated everything. Maybe I’ll go back for some ladybugs. I’ll just have to take the fungus gnat trap out so it doesn’t catch the ladybugs. I’d much rather use bio control over sprays if I have the choice. Some of my local dispensaries list pyrethrin right on the label in their lab analysis and they don’t give a fuck. Pyrethrin and neem oil are two that I won’t use no matter what.

So I can just turn ladybugs loose in my tents and they’ll stay established in there? Do regular ladybugs work as well as the black ones that specifically eat spider mites?
I remember watching a documentary a while ago when it was discussing hemp and its uses for cleaning land. It is one of the best known plants at absorbing everything including radiation. If the plant is known to suck up everything I would bet that sprays are included.

If outdoors I usually add Neem Cake, Karanja Meal, and Shrimp meal to the soil to help give plant a boost against bugs. I dont get many thrips, spidermites, white flies on them. Caterpillars and leaf hoppers and miners are my biggest problem.

For the ladybugs put pantyhose or something over your openings to prevent them escaping.
 

Chunky Stool

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Does this look concerning to anyone else? This is what I suspected might be spider mites and it’s getting a little worse. It’s only on a few lower branches of one plant. I’m about to spray the shit out of my flower tent. I need to get those nematodes, and I’m about to call some nurseries. I’m wondering if I should buy one more pack or not. I think I might be set as far as GPS gear goes.
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Got thrips for sure and some type of mites.
Spinosad root drench will fix that.
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1 oz per gallon, preferably when medium is fairly dry.
A couple of doses is usually sufficient. (Mix a fresh batch every time. )
 
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Southside112

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Quick update everyone. Got 9 tomahawk @ 30 days veg. Still not showing sex yet but I anticipate that happening shortly. Gonna keep my 2 best females in my 2.5 x 2 gorilla tent with 200w timber. Play a little with cloning, up pot to 7 gallon pots and eventually flower these big girls. Other females will be up potted to 3 gallon pots and flowered after 2 more weeks veg.

Some notes of interest. This strain is by far the skunkiest strain I've ever had in veg. People weren't lying lol. They are also heavy feeders. Were showing cal/mag deficiencies like 2 weeks into veg. Never seen plants deplete ffof this quickly. Cheers everyone.
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