The people behind the violence in the American protests of George Floyd.

hanimmal

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There is your 1.25 million per month, you say is from putin without anything to back it up that its actually from putin. That money came from republicans who decided to make president out of trump, not putin.









Look what happened in june 2014. This address you speak of in st.petersburg. It was not made a base until cambridge analytica started to get involved with the russian IRA. It was cambridge analytica who provided them with the data, it was cambridge analytica who gave them the tools, it was cambridge analytica who trained the russians and it was cambridge analytica who got paid by trump campaign donors to influence all this stuff WITH the russians, who also were willing to help out an old friend who they would benefit more from than hillary.

This is ot some pot made up by russians, this is a plot where russians were bought by trump campaign to help and possibly there was also some other deals trump made with them, who knows. But the whole point is that putin is not the source of all this, the source it trump campaign and russians just happened to be in the middle of this and helping this to happen.

But one of the important things is still the links of this IRA and putin. I know that the same company(that is not owned by russian government, at least officially, but is an independent company, not government entity) does propaganda for putin. But that does not mean that it would be owned by putin. Putin could just be buying services from this company like trump campaign did(and apparently is again buying for his next campaign). Do you have some proof on this? Because to my knowledge all clues end here.


Do note that all these things im quoting does not conflict with what your documents said, its just that what you read is only small part of the story. Likely deliberately simplified so much that you could not see the truths behind it. The elite wants to blame all russia about this, because then people dont realise that its actually them being behind all this propaganda crap.
Or you could just be picking up on duplicity right?

Like in the movie 'Contact', why build one spaceship when you can build two.

Makes sense for the Russian military to attack our democracy (with the help of criminals in our country) by hijacking our elections illegally through militarized trolling (using all of the data we freely give against us), to have a backup to see how the countries would respond to the attack by Cambridge Analytica.

There is no mention that IRA would be owned by russian government, in those documents you posted or what i can find. All evidence says that its an independent company that putin has bought propaganda campaigns from, like trump did. No evidence that its owned by putin and that their actions are dictated by putin and putin alone. And even if it were owned by russian government, it was still formed to its current activities by it basically merging with cambridge analytica, their data, tools, training etc came from cambridge analytica to make the thing happen that trump campaign paid for.

I know this can be hard to see because all the propaganda that USA puts out. They leave half of the story out intentionally, because its better to have someone else to blame. There is no mention of cambridge analytica as far as i know from those investigations made by USA. They leave this link out so that it seems like its all russians, so that they can continue this whole shit.
I think you are missing the fact that here in America it is illegal for a foreign nation to have anything to do with our candidates in the elections. Because they are not doing it for our benefit.

Trying to pretend that I have any inside information into the bank files that are currently being subpoenaed by the NY prosecutor is futile, you might be right that there is some entity other than Putin's Oligarch money laundering schemes, who knows. It will be presented to 13 Americans if someone finds that is the case, and they will decide the validity of the evidence.

Part of which is 2 party scam they got going on in USA. Part of which is the gaining china style control over citizens, which is why they wanted 9/11, this is why they want to make BLM look like some insane rioters etc Its al connected to this scam which keeps the elite in the lead. Part of it is the fact that they dont teach media literacy in schools, so that people would not be able to tell real news from fake news and get confused.

The basic idea is to get people to react emotionally in certain way to certain stimuli and then use emotional triggers to control what people choose.
Trying to tie this criminality to anything about our legal/government outside of the corrupted humans that weaseled their way into office is just trolling.

As for the rest you are talking about so many things stuffed in there it is hard to connect them to the conversation earlier. I would say though that just because a foreign nation figured out a way to use our countries collective PTSD (one thing I wonder about with Trump being in a high-rise watching that building fall might suffer from) after witnessing 9/11. It birthed the 24 hour cable news cycle and needing to fill the holes with talking political heads, which the Republicans were well poised to take advantage of with Fox News and later with Sinclair Broadcasting.

By 2006 the right wing co-opted the internet trolling with evangelical (baby killer/gay rights) and racist democraphics. And all the conspiracies started to take root, I always remembered the 'brother Binder' that Bush had with one of the Saudi royalty. Who knows, but this is when I noticed the trolling hard and got sucked into it.

2008 John Edwards (the only frontrunner Democrat that was a white man) got trolled by Trump's buddies at the National Enquirer (who did a entire advertisment-esq mag for Saudi Arabia many years later) and dropped out clearing the way for the first African American or Woman presidential candidate for a major party.

And this is also happens to be the year we get Sarah Palin, who came out and was a star and triggered everyone to feel they could spout their racist bullshit and get angry when it gets pushed back onto them. Luckily it wasn't enough because a great man was willing to stand up to the hate.


2010- Using the backlash of having the first black POTUS, the Tea Party (funded by the Koch's) start their longterm propaganda campaign through doing things like donating millions to universities so that they could appoint politicos into their econ departments and stuff to teach their crackpot theories and be able to get used as experts in trials and hearings. The Republicans used this big state pushes to gerrymander their districts to keep Republicans in power for the next decade.

This is then followed as well by the "Occupy Wallstreet" protests in 2011. Which was used to scare more Republicans into office.

2012 Trump and Sanders right about the same time decided to not run for POTUS against Obama. This is when we start getting reports of how powerful of a tool that Data analytics and AI truly is.
This is also the same time that Obama started the government push into mass data collection.

2013- Snowden lands in Russia with his smuggled data files from the NSA on how they collect everything that gets posted online.

Late 2013- Russia sends agents into America to collect information about our social cracks.

2014- The Russians set up their trolling operation and use it on Ukraine, then Brexit, then with Trump.

And they continue to this day, with no pushback from our POTUS.


Did the Russians stumble onto Trump's longterm troll, and unbenownced to Trump who thought it was a great way to advertise his cult brand, had a weapon strong enough to depress the vote just enough (because Trump gave the Russian military our voting data so the Russians knew how everyone historically voted and all the other information the RNC had down to the districts we live in) in key areas to get Trump the 80k votes he needed to overcome Clintons over 2 million more votes she had?

I think so, I think Trump was working with the Saudis/Netenyahu all along and the Russians had tossed out a line to Trump and he bit, because he is a criminal and can't help himself and got caught because he didn't think the Russians would be able to have the weaponry to get him elected. I think Trump wanted to become a cult leader and use that to get the entire nation like it is while Clinton would be impeached by the Republicans and in 2020 Trump would have gotten to be Biden.

I think Trump fucked himself being too greedy thinking he could have a side bitch with Putin.

I imagine as the Russians military leaders were going through the potential targets for the Republican POTUS to pick the worse ones figuring out what they got on which, when they got to whatever it is on Trump they have, Putin doing a spit take as they read it out loud and the entire room laughs with him.

But I really have zero way of actually knowing anything outside of the facts above, I will have to wait for the court docs once Trump is no longer POTUS.
 

schuylaar

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Agreed 100%, but i find it weird that when i say these same things on another topic you attack me and say that its all russia, not trumpsters and join forces with other idiots trying to bury this stuff i said as fake news when i say that its trump who keeps pushing this crap and not putin. If putin does have a small influence in this, it is because trump wanted him to do it, not because of some evil plan from putin to take over the USA. Not that putin would not use anything he can as an advantage and surely plays trump in one way or another. But in the end its trump behind all this
trumpy* is basic
@hanimmal

I think this shows perfectly my point earlier that its regular internet idiots that do the most influencing on the internet. These are the people who have already been influenced by these trolls and they just run around with their emotional outbursts spamming their crap. Republican side is being lied that there was no russian collusion at all, and democrats are being lied that its all russians. Think about what would happen then if people from either side who have been conditioned to respond with guge emotions, are being told that what im saying. The typical response would be something like this from those who bought the lies fed by establishment democrats:



And trumpsters would say that there is no proof that russia actually paid these trolls and then start to tell how great trump is and how people lie about him and then show some stuff where people have in fact lied about him. When this is also possibly even more dangerous misconception about the whole thing.

This same sort of thing has been used many times in the past. And the idea behind the 2 party scam is the same than behind this. You give two lies to choose from, both of which keeps the truth out.
when your whole system revolves around who has the most money and can afford to 'run'?
 

schuylaar

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Or you could just be picking up on duplicity right?

Like in the movie 'Contact', why build one spaceship when you can build two.

Makes sense for the Russian military to attack our democracy (with the help of criminals in our country) by hijacking our elections illegally through militarized trolling (using all of the data we freely give against us), to have a backup to see how the countries would respond to the attack by Cambridge Analytica.


I think you are missing the fact that here in America it is illegal for a foreign nation to have anything to do with our candidates in the elections. Because they are not doing it for our benefit.

Trying to pretend that I have any inside information into the bank files that are currently being subpoenaed by the NY prosecutor is futile, you might be right that there is some entity other than Putin's Oligarch money laundering schemes, who knows. It will be presented to 13 Americans if someone finds that is the case, and they will decide the validity of the evidence.


Trying to tie this criminality to anything about our legal/government outside of the corrupted humans that weaseled their way into office is just trolling.

As for the rest you are talking about so many things stuffed in there it is hard to connect them to the conversation earlier. I would say though that just because a foreign nation figured out a way to use our countries collective PTSD (one thing I wonder about with Trump being in a high-rise watching that building fall might suffer from) after witnessing 9/11. It birthed the 24 hour cable news cycle and needing to fill the holes with talking political heads, which the Republicans were well poised to take advantage of with Fox News and later with Sinclair Broadcasting.

By 2006 the right wing co-opted the internet trolling with evangelical (baby killer/gay rights) and racist democraphics. And all the conspiracies started to take root, I always remembered the 'brother Binder' that Bush had with one of the Saudi royalty. Who knows, but this is when I noticed the trolling hard and got sucked into it.

2008 John Edwards (the only frontrunner Democrat that was a white man) got trolled by Trump's buddies at the National Enquirer (who did a entire advertisment-esq mag for Saudi Arabia many years later) and dropped out clearing the way for the first African American or Woman presidential candidate for a major party.

And this is also happens to be the year we get Sarah Palin, who came out and was a star and triggered everyone to feel they could spout their racist bullshit and get angry when it gets pushed back onto them. Luckily it wasn't enough because a great man was willing to stand up to the hate.


2010- Using the backlash of having the first black POTUS, the Tea Party (funded by the Koch's) start their longterm propaganda campaign through doing things like donating millions to universities so that they could appoint politicos into their econ departments and stuff to teach their crackpot theories and be able to get used as experts in trials and hearings. The Republicans used this big state pushes to gerrymander their districts to keep Republicans in power for the next decade.

This is then followed as well by the "Occupy Wallstreet" protests in 2011. Which was used to scare more Republicans into office.

2012 Trump and Sanders right about the same time decided to not run for POTUS against Obama. This is when we start getting reports of how powerful of a tool that Data analytics and AI truly is.

This is also the same time that Obama started the government push into mass data collection.

2013- Snowden lands in Russia with his smuggled data files from the NSA on how they collect everything that gets posted online.

Late 2013- Russia sends agents into America to collect information about our social cracks.

2014- The Russians set up their trolling operation and use it on Ukraine, then Brexit, then with Trump.

And they continue to this day, with no pushback from our POTUS.


Did the Russians stumble onto Trump's longterm troll, and unbenownced to Trump who thought it was a great way to advertise his cult brand, had a weapon strong enough to depress the vote just enough (because Trump gave the Russian military our voting data so the Russians knew how everyone historically voted and all the other information the RNC had down to the districts we live in) in key areas to get Trump the 80k votes he needed to overcome Clintons over 2 million more votes she had?

I think so, I think Trump was working with the Saudis/Netenyahu all along and the Russians had tossed out a line to Trump and he bit, because he is a criminal and can't help himself and got caught because he didn't think the Russians would be able to have the weaponry to get him elected. I think Trump wanted to become a cult leader and use that to get the entire nation like it is while Clinton would be impeached by the Republicans and in 2020 Trump would have gotten to be Biden.

I think Trump fucked himself being too greedy thinking he could have a side bitch with Putin.

I imagine as the Russians military leaders were going through the potential targets for the Republican POTUS to pick the worse ones figuring out what they got on which, when they got to whatever it is on Trump they have, Putin doing a spit take as they read it out loud and the entire room laughs with him.

But I really have zero way of actually knowing anything outside of the facts above, I will have to wait for the court docs once Trump is no longer POTUS.
he is missing that little fact. you're always posting pdfs, no wonder he thinks you have inside info..that's how russia rolls you into krompomat..since you possess nothing he'll talk you into getting some.

his last sentence was touching.
 

schuylaar

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why do you keep trying to post this..someone from russia did yesterday all the day before already.

nobody clicked it.
 

hanimmal

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@hanimmal

I think this shows perfectly my point earlier that its regular internet idiots that do the most influencing on the internet. These are the people who have already been influenced by these trolls and they just run around with their emotional outbursts spamming their crap. Republican side is being lied that there was no russian collusion at all, and democrats are being lied that its all russians. Think about what would happen then if people from either side who have been conditioned to respond with guge emotions, are being told that what im saying. The typical response would be something like this from those who bought the lies fed by establishment democrats:



And trumpsters would say that there is no proof that russia actually paid these trolls and then start to tell how great trump is and how people lie about him and then show some stuff where people have in fact lied about him. When this is also possibly even more dangerous misconception about the whole thing.

This same sort of thing has been used many times in the past. And the idea behind the 2 party scam is the same than behind this. You give two lies to choose from, both of which keeps the truth out.
That is the entire point though of knowing about the Russian militarized trolling of our nation.

Every direction of every topic is getting trolled anything that people show interest in gets amplified if it is thought that it is able to be spammed effectively to radicalize people.

That is the problem I have in the testimony of the FBI saying that under Trump zero is being done about this vey real (and shitty) attack on our society.

The trick is understanding that the Russian military through the research on trolling they had with their work we saw in Cambridge Analytica's impact, and the Data collection being too much for humans to not have fallen victim to on a large enough percentage to have very real impacts in our society.
 

420drummer

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Ahaha hahahaha. Democrats are the queens of propaganda and disinformation. What’s with the hate anyway? Thought y’all snowflakes preach tolerance? Oh that’s right y’all only tolerate people that have been conditioned to the same ignorance as yourselves.
 

hanimmal

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Ahaha hahahaha. Democrats are the queens of propaganda and disinformation. What’s with the hate anyway? Thought y’all snowflakes preach tolerance? Oh that’s right y’all only tolerate people that have been conditioned to the same ignorance as yourselves.
 

UncleBuck

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Ahaha hahahaha. Democrats are the queens of propaganda and disinformation. What’s with the hate anyway? Thought y’all snowflakes preach tolerance? Oh that’s right y’all only tolerate people that have been conditioned to the same ignorance as yourselves.
Wait, do you honestly think we will tolerate torchlit neo nazi mobs chanting “Jews will not replace us”?

You must be mentally retarded or something
 

CannaOnerStar

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Or you could just be picking up on duplicity right?

Like in the movie 'Contact', why build one spaceship when you can build two.

Makes sense for the Russian military to attack our democracy (with the help of criminals in our country) by hijacking our elections illegally through militarized trolling (using all of the data we freely give against us), to have a backup to see how the countries would respond to the attack by Cambridge Analytica.
Nearly all countries try to influence others all the times. There is a real cyber war going on all the time who nearly no one knows about.




I think you are missing the fact that here in America it is illegal for a foreign nation to have anything to do with our candidates in the elections. Because they are not doing it for our benefit.
Oh how they like to find loopholes for this sort of laws. You know cambridge analytica who trump campaign hired is a business, not a foreign nation. So its ok to use a foreign company. Even the IRA is(at least officially) a foreign company, not a foreign nation.

So the situation is that trump campaign bought a service from foreign company, which is totally legal. Now this company used a russian company as a subcontractor, which is still legal. Where this could maybe get illegal is if the IRA would actually be owned and controlled by russian government. But even if that would be true, trump would had washed his hands out of this, because they bought the services from the english company cambridge analytica and can claim that they had no idea about any russians, if one day it is proven that russian government owns IRA. I dont claim to know how this would roll out in court, but i can assure you that trump gets away with it and this similar stuff keeps on going.



Trying to pretend that I have any inside information into the bank files that are currently being subpoenaed by the NY prosecutor is futile, you might be right that there is some entity other than Putin's Oligarch money laundering schemes, who knows. It will be presented to 13 Americans if someone finds that is the case, and they will decide the validity of the evidence.
I dont understand why you assume that i think that you have some special insider info about this. I assumed that you posted screen shots from the documents about the investigation that were released to the public. Which btw took a while for them to edit in a form "that does not compromise further investigations".



Trying to tie this criminality to anything about our legal/government outside of the corrupted humans that weaseled their way into office is just trolling.
The whole point is that these lobbyists make loopholes to laws that allow further LEGAL corruption, which the whole lobbying scheme as it is run also is.

The system is being shaped by these criminals all the time and they play a theatre that inhibits general masses from seeing the truth, so that they can keep it going. Occupy wall street was people waking up on this.



As for the rest you are talking about so many things stuffed in there it is hard to connect them to the conversation earlier. I would say though that just because a foreign nation figured out a way to use our countries collective PTSD (one thing I wonder about with Trump being in a high-rise watching that building fall might suffer from) after witnessing 9/11. It birthed the 24 hour cable news cycle and needing to fill the holes with talking political heads, which the Republicans were well poised to take advantage of with Fox News and later with Sinclair Broadcasting.

By 2006 the right wing co-opted the internet trolling with evangelical (baby killer/gay rights) and racist democraphics. And all the conspiracies started to take root, I always remembered the 'brother Binder' that Bush had with one of the Saudi royalty. Who knows, but this is when I noticed the trolling hard and got sucked into it.

2008 John Edwards (the only frontrunner Democrat that was a white man) got trolled by Trump's buddies at the National Enquirer (who did a entire advertisment-esq mag for Saudi Arabia many years later) and dropped out clearing the way for the first African American or Woman presidential candidate for a major party.

And this is also happens to be the year we get Sarah Palin, who came out and was a star and triggered everyone to feel they could spout their racist bullshit and get angry when it gets pushed back onto them. Luckily it wasn't enough because a great man was willing to stand up to the hate.


2010- Using the backlash of having the first black POTUS, the Tea Party (funded by the Koch's) start their longterm propaganda campaign through doing things like donating millions to universities so that they could appoint politicos into their econ departments and stuff to teach their crackpot theories and be able to get used as experts in trials and hearings. The Republicans used this big state pushes to gerrymander their districts to keep Republicans in power for the next decade.

This is then followed as well by the "Occupy Wallstreet" protests in 2011. Which was used to scare more Republicans into office.

2012 Trump and Sanders right about the same time decided to not run for POTUS against Obama. This is when we start getting reports of how powerful of a tool that Data analytics and AI truly is.

This is also the same time that Obama started the government push into mass data collection.

2013- Snowden lands in Russia with his smuggled data files from the NSA on how they collect everything that gets posted online.

Late 2013- Russia sends agents into America to collect information about our social cracks.
Yes. This last part where russian agents come to USA does not mean that this is where the russians started this whole thing. It is a common practise to have agents infiltrate to other countries. The fact that this happened, does not prove that it is a fact that putin started running the whole show and not trump campaign.


2014- The Russians set up their trolling operation and use it on Ukraine, then Brexit, then with Trump.
Read abut what happened with this in more details in what i quoted happening in 2014 and onwards. It was not russians who started the whole brexit either, it was a bunch of brittish politicians and political donors, american donors(robert mercer) and possibly people from other governments, but most strongly this brexit thing has been pushed by few britts, who got cambridge analytica involved with it and through that russians involved.


again said:
APR 2014: The Internet Research Agency forms a department referred to as the “translator project,” which focuses on the U.S. population and conducts operations on social media platforms such as YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

MAY 2014: The Internet Research Agency includes interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election as part if its strategy, with the stated goal of spreading distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general. From the Mueller indictment: “In May 2014, defendants and their co-conspirators discussed efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and began to monitor U.S. social media accounts and other sources of information about the 2016 U.S. presidential election.”
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1035562/download

And before russians got involved, this happened:

brittish officials said:
Further clarification from the Deputy Information Commissioner, James Dipple-Johnston, highlighted the fact that IP addresses originating from Russia were connected to an earlier app at the Cambridge University Psychometrics Centre. The IP addresses were also linked to alleged cyber attacks in the past and to a “Tor entry point”—a device for people to hide their identity online.291
This is where the data was leaked to russians from cambridge analytica and it was leaked because they wanted to move the operation to russia.

  • The Trump campaign-linked data firm Cambridge Analytica began testing out slogans like "Drain the Swamp" and "Build the Wall" the same year Russia began its social media influence operation targeting the 2016 election.
    [*]Cambridge Analytica has denied any links to Russian entities or individuals.
    [*]The firm attracted scrutiny when a whistleblower said Cambridge Analytica executives met with executives of a sanctioned Russian oil producer in 2014 and 2015 to discuss politically targeting messages toward American voters.
    [*]Cambridge Analytica executives were also secretly filmed boasting about how they used shadowy online propaganda tools to help Donald Trump win the 2016 US election.
 

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CannaOnerStar

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2011: Steve Bannon drafts a business plan for the Mercers which called for them to invest ten million dollars in Breitbart News, in exchange for a large stake.

2011: David Bossie, the head of the conservative group Citizens United, introduced Trump to Bannon. At the time, Trump was thinking about running against Obama. Bannon and Trump met at Trump Tower and discussed a possible campaign. Though Trump decided against the idea, the two kept in touch and Bannon gave Trump admiring coverage in Breitbart. Bannon noticed that when Trump spoke to crowds, people were ‘electrified’ and began to think that Trump might be “the one” who could shake up American politics.

2011: The Mercers join forces with the Kochs.
This troll operation "Translator project" to help trump, was launched at the same time when cambridge analytica started training the russians and gave them their tools and data. This is when that place in st.petersburg where some americans were hacked was formed. It was formed by cambridge analytica merging with some russian company, which may or may not be owned by russian government. I dont claim to know if it is owned by russian government or not, but it is not the main point here. It is evident that russians have at least somehow aided trump campaign, but whether its russians that were hired by trump camapaign or russians hired by putin cant really be proven, but either way it was started by trump campaign. Russians just saw that, yes trump would be a good option for them and possibly then started plotting more around this.

And they continue to this day, with no pushback from our POTUS.
xD And it will continue as long as there are some elite puppets in lead. DNC is filled with these and they keep all true progression out as much as they can, even using dirty tricks if they have to.

Pelosi talking about the trump army that its so horrible etc, but then allowing funding for it is a perfect example of this.



also





Did the Russians stumble onto Trump's longterm troll, and unbenownced to Trump who thought it was a great way to advertise his cult brand, had a weapon strong enough to depress the vote just enough (because Trump gave the Russian military our voting data so the Russians knew how everyone historically voted and all the other information the RNC had down to the districts we live in) in key areas to get Trump the 80k votes he needed to overcome Clintons over 2 million more votes she had?

I think so, I think Trump was working with the Saudis/Netenyahu all along and the Russians had tossed out a line to Trump and he bit, because he is a criminal and can't help himself and got caught because he didn't think the Russians would be able to have the weaponry to get him elected. I think Trump wanted to become a cult leader and use that to get the entire nation like it is while Clinton would be impeached by the Republicans and in 2020 Trump would have gotten to be Biden.

I think Trump fucked himself being too greedy thinking he could have a side bitch with Putin.

I imagine as the Russians military leaders were going through the potential targets for the Republican POTUS to pick the worse ones figuring out what they got on which, when they got to whatever it is on Trump they have, Putin doing a spit take as they read it out loud and the entire room laughs with him.

But I really have zero way of actually knowing anything outside of the facts above, I will have to wait for the court docs once Trump is no longer POTUS.
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Clinton folks also liked the whole russia scheme because if bernie would had won, they could had said that russians helped him and that they need to recount:


This putting all blame on russians is quite handy for the elite, wether they play the left or right party.
 
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CannaOnerStar

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why do you keep trying to post this..someone from russia did yesterday all the day before already.

nobody clicked it.
@hanimmal You see this sort of lies all over. I am the only one who ever posted that thing few days ago and now these guys come up with some crazy thing that russians posted this all over. Either these guys are fucking lunatic retards or paid by someone to say this. There are plenty of people who say these idiot shit all the time with such a high amount of other unrelated posts here that it would be unlikely that they were some paid trolls. Again +1 for my point that its this sort of brainwashed people doing the most influencing now and they even make up shit to appear right to others. What these trolls do is small specific attacks that have wide and long lasting influence on this sort of people
 

UncleBuck

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@hanimmal You see this sort of lies all over. I am the only one who ever posted that thing few days ago and now these guys come up with some crazy thing that russians posted this all over. Either these guys are fucking lunatic retards or paid by someone to say this. There are plenty of people who say these idiot shit all the time with such a high amount of other unrelated posts here that it would be unlikely that they were some paid trolls. Again +1 for my point that its this sort of brainwashed people doing the most influencing now and they even make up shit to appear right to others. What these trolls do is small specific attacks that have wide and long lasting influence on this sort of people
she was calling you russian, sergey.
 

hanimmal

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Nearly all countries try to influence others all the times. There is a real cyber war going on all the time who nearly no one knows about.
Except that we do know about the Russian attack on our nations democracy.

I will look over the rest of what you posted.

@hanimmal You see this sort of lies all over. I am the only one who ever posted that thing few days ago and now these guys come up with some crazy thing that russians posted this all over. Either these guys are fucking lunatic retards or paid by someone to say this. There are plenty of people who say these idiot shit all the time with such a high amount of other unrelated posts here that it would be unlikely that they were some paid trolls. Again +1 for my point that its this sort of brainwashed people doing the most influencing now and they even make up shit to appear right to others. What these trolls do is small specific attacks that have wide and long lasting influence on this sort of people
I will watch your videos, but in reality we already know this is how the Russians are doing their attack on our nation. One person in the IRA having mutiple accounts just pumping out content to confuse and waste peoples time thinking they are having an actual conversation with a non troll, while trying to deal with other trolls attacking them.

But when people are actually not trolls, they will usually choose to just ignore someone who is obviously a troll. Because like your other posts are trying to show, it is easy to manufacture propaganda to make anyone look like they are lying with selective editing and out of context facts.

Then repeat it often enough across multiple platforms and it will harden in peoples minds what the Russian military is actually wanting them to believe. It is naive for people to think that just because you are using a different website that the trolls would not be able to follow to the other ones making sure the content you are seeing is consistent.
 

CannaOnerStar

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@hanimmal

Btw i went through 600 latest posts made by schuylaar . ALL of them were politics related, so i wouldnt actually wonder if that guy was some russian troll. Russian trolls trying to cover up what im saying. Wouldnt that be funny if it were true? I did not go over everything what he wrote, but some of them were some stupid propaganda crap. Like he made a topic that he got cannabis seeds sent by chinese and posted a news story(most likely fake news) that chinese are sending out cannabis seeds to americans to cause some trouble or some crap like that. That was his only cannabis related post in these last 600 posts. I cant be arsed to go through more, because it wouldnt likely prove anything, but maybe you care to do so. Sounds exactly the type of propaganda these(most likely USA paid) russian trolls would like to do
 
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hanimmal

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Oh how they like to find loopholes for this sort of laws. You know cambridge analytica who trump campaign hired is a business, not a foreign nation. So its ok to use a foreign company. Even the IRA is(at least officially) a foreign company, not a foreign nation.

So the situation is that trump campaign bought a service from foreign company, which is totally legal. Now this company used a russian company as a subcontractor, which is still legal. Where this could maybe get illegal is if the IRA would actually be owned and controlled by russian government. But even if that would be true, trump would had washed his hands out of this, because they bought the services from the english company cambridge analytica and can claim that they had no idea about any russians, if one day it is proven that russian government owns IRA. I dont claim to know how this would roll out in court, but i can assure you that trump gets away with it and this similar stuff keeps on going.
Just because Barr won't allow any lawsuits touch Trump doesn't make what you said true. We don't know yet if Trump's hiring Cambridge Analytica to cat fish and spam our citizens with propaganda for the purpose of a US election is illegal or not.

You are confusing Cambridge Analytica being shown to have been started for $15 million at the same time the IRA was ramping up and had a $1.25 million a month budget that adds up to $15 million meaning they are the same thing. They are not. And you slipped in propaganda about Cabridge University earlier when it was one Russian associate Professor that was stealing the data that was given to the Russian military.

I dont understand why you assume that i think that you have some special insider info about this. I assumed that you posted screen shots from the documents about the investigation that were released to the public. Which btw took a while for them to edit in a form "that does not compromise further investigations".
How would I know what data they collected because Barr won't release it to keep the Trump troll rolling.
The whole point is that these lobbyists make loopholes to laws that allow further LEGAL corruption, which the whole lobbying scheme as it is run also is.

The system is being shaped by these criminals all the time and they play a theatre that inhibits general masses from seeing the truth, so that they can keep it going. Occupy wall street was people waking up on this.
That is why Trump screwed up, he didn't do things legally. He was always a spoiled rich idiot who was too willing to swim with criminals. He thought he could get away with everything and he slipped up getting greedy.

Yes. This last part where russian agents come to USA does not mean that this is where the russians started this whole thing. It is a common practise to have agents infiltrate to other countries. The fact that this happened, does not prove that it is a fact that putin started running the whole show and not trump campaign.
Sure, but not to start their attack on our society. Which is what the Russians have been doing.


Butina and Trump, got to love how obvious Trump is with his screw ups. I especially like when he outs himself with his idiot kids Russian meeting.

Two different crimes can occur simultaneously.

Read abut what happened with this in more details in what i quoted happening in 2014 and onwards. It was not russians who started the whole brexit either, it was a bunch of brittish politicians and political donors, american donors(robert mercer) and possibly people from other governments, but most strongly this brexit thing has been pushed by few britts, who got cambridge analytica involved with it and through that russians involved.
Do you understand how this is about thumbs on the scale that Russia is exploiting. I get you are trying to sell it is Americans that started the troll on themselves, and don't have any reason to dispute that. But it doesn't detract from the fact that the Russian military has been shown to have done it too.


This troll operation "Translator project" to help trump, was launched at the same time when cambridge analytica started training the russians and gave them their tools and data. This is when that place in st.petersburg where some americans were hacked was formed. It was formed by cambridge analytica merging with some russian company, which may or may not be owned by russian government. I dont claim to know if it is owned by russian government or not, but it is not the main point here. It is evident that russians have at least somehow aided trump campaign, but whether its russians that were hired by trump camapaign or russians hired by putin cant really be proven, but either way it was started by trump campaign. Russians just saw that, yes trump would be a good option for them and possibly then started plotting more around this.



xD And it will continue as long as there are some elite puppets in lead. DNC is filled with these and they keep all true progression out as much as they can, even using dirty tricks if they have to.

Pelosi talking about the trump army that its so horrible etc, but then allowing funding for it is a perfect example of this.



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Clinton folks also liked the whole russia scheme because if bernie would had won, they could had said that russians helped him and that they need to recount:


This putting all blame on russians is quite handy for the elite, wether they play the left or right party.
The rest of your posts just completely ignored any context of what you were responding to, and had no consideration of the points I was making.
 

schuylaar

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That is the entire point though of knowing about the Russian militarized trolling of our nation.

Every direction of every topic is getting trolled anything that people show interest in gets amplified if it is thought that it is able to be spammed effectively to radicalize people.

That is the problem I have in the testimony of the FBI saying that under Trump zero is being done about this vey real (and shitty) attack on our society.

The trick is understanding that the Russian military through the research on trolling they had with their work we saw in Cambridge Analytica's impact, and the Data collection being too much for humans to not have fallen victim to on a large enough percentage to have very real impacts in our society.
yes, since you have nothing you will become a 'cut-out'..this is KGB playbook 101 in it's MOST PURE FORM..down in florida they own a lot of the gold coast (east side) Aventura area..they're constantly advertising on Craigslist for people so that the russians can use your address for 'packages':lol:

as broke as i've ever been..i know exactly what that shite is and REFUSE to be a traitor to my country!
 

Fogdog

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Just because Barr won't allow any lawsuits touch Trump doesn't make what you said true. We don't know yet if Trump's hiring Cambridge Analytica to cat fish and spam our citizens with propaganda for the purpose of a US election is illegal or not.

You are confusing Cambridge Analytica being shown to have been started for $15 million at the same time the IRA was ramping up and had a $1.25 million a month budget that adds up to $15 million meaning they are the same thing. They are not. And you slipped in propaganda about Cabridge University earlier when it was one Russian associate Professor that was stealing the data that was given to the Russian military.


How would I know what data they collected because Barr won't release it to keep the Trump troll rolling.


That is why Trump screwed up, he didn't do things legally. He was always a spoiled rich idiot who was too willing to swim with criminals. He thought he could get away with everything and he slipped up getting greedy.


Sure, but not to start their attack on our society. Which is what the Russians have been doing.


Butina and Trump, got to love how obvious Trump is with his screw ups. I especially like when he outs himself with his idiot kids Russian meeting.

Two different crimes can occur simultaneously.


Do you understand how this is about thumbs on the scale that Russia is exploiting. I get you are trying to sell it is Americans that started the troll on themselves, and don't have any reason to dispute that. But it doesn't detract from the fact that the Russian military has been shown to have done it too.



The rest of your posts just completely ignored any context of what you were responding to, and had no consideration of the points I was making.
The troll's posts that blame the US for Russia's interference sounds very much like the "both sides are bad" bs.
 

hanimmal

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Looks like the rioters are trying harder to hide their race. The woman (maybe, or just disguising their sex with padding) was fully covered, but this white rioter forgot to cover his fingers as he though this projectile through the window.
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Also as soon as the 'woman' busted through the window, this white rioter (notice the wrist that becomes exposed as he spreads his arms) came to try to stop the recording of the rioting these mostly white people are engaged in.

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hanimmal

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Here is more from Portland overnight:
This bleach blonde white guy can be seen throwing bricks at the window.
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And here you can see the same white guy throwing in stuff in the can to burn against the wood they piled against the opening.

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It is a little harder to tell, but the people I saw around him (providing him cover) were also white. As soon as they got the fire going you can see them in the video move out as the police started moving in.

Just more white radicalized domestic terrorists using the BLM movement as cover to do violence in our nation.


Found another clip of this act of rioting.

Here is the white boy ripping down the plywood protecting the windows while white rioters protect him from view with umbrellas.

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hanimmal

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Chad Wolf (Trump's minion who is behind the federal storm troopers) is testifying today to the Republican led senate.

I am looking forward to see how hard they try to not being up the words 'right wing' and how much they try to use their scape goat of 'ANTIFA'.


Sen Ron Johnson starts off with a video of 3 black guys beating up 2 white boys.
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I would be really curious to see this entire video to see if those white kids were breaking into that building and if they stopped it.
 
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