thumper60
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Live on the saco wont run out LOL
Maine Outdoor 2020 (first timer)
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DCcan
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I'm already looking at ways to shorten up my water trips, and getting a drip hose for the vegetable patch.
I've got 20 gal/day planned out for fertigation/ IPM of weed and veggie planters, the veg garden does ok with water and a dose of BT.
Rob Roy
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Good to hear you've got backup plants.
It's always hard to kill them, even the ugly ones. When you're in flower, I'd recommend minimal light intrusion during sleepy time. Inconsistent light could stress them in veg, some strains more than others.
Shade? When you, uh, "toss them in the woods", they survive better if they land in a sunny spot. If you, "toss" a few nutes and some water their way too, those wild girls will do just fine, or so I'm told.
DCcan
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Someone "forgot"their joint and burned a field so they didn't have to mow it just last week, that's plausible deniability due to diminished capacity.
Washington County man lost his footing, fell down and lost his joint while mowing a field.
Recycling is not a crime, it's the law. Big signs everywhere.
Throwing plants away in a compost pile isn't a crime, it's recycling gone awry like tomatoes and potatoes do, and you're probably getting forgetful.
Washington County man lost his footing, fell down and lost his joint while mowing a field.Recycling is not a crime, it's the law. Big signs everywhere.
Throwing plants away in a compost pile isn't a crime, it's recycling gone awry like tomatoes and potatoes do, and you're probably getting forgetful.
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NewEnglandFarmer
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I'm in a pretty rural area without any streetlights and the "garden" is a good 400 feet or so from the house so I think they should stay pretty dark.
I suppose they could've gotten a little indirect light when they lived in the cold frames for a couple weeks. They definitely experienced some cold mornings. I may have been a little clumsy in the first transplant with a few--as I recall one of the Cherry Wines gave me some trouble, the soil crumbled away from the roots.
The Cherry Wines are "F2"--would that predispose them to hermaphrodism?
Last couple days I noticed all 4 Tomahawks started looking a tad droopy. They were the only ones still in 1g pots. I just up-potted 3 of them, need to free up another 2g pot to do the 4th, hopefully I free one up soon.
Noticed what looks like preflowers on one of the Chinook Hazes today. Just ordered a jewler's loupe--can't really see much with the naked eye they're so small. Maybe I'll try the camera tomorrow.
Finished prepping the holes in the garden--backfilled with a mix of compost and the native soil. I added some amendments based on the soil test to bring pH up and boost some of the nutrients. Wish I had done all that prep. last fall or earlier this spring but I didn't really decide to go ahead and try this until about April. Been in the back of my mind ever since 2016 when they legalized it here, but took me 4 years to actually get inspired to try it.
Rob Roy
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I think a genetic hermie will usually beget more genetic hermies. Meaning even under perfect environmental conditions, it's got a much higher probability of being a hermie and passing it on.
I don't think the F2 by itself would be the problem, unless there's an underlying incidence of hermie's in the parental lineage. Meaning a very low incidence of hermaphroditism in parent stock usually means offspring will carry the same traits.
It's possible that may have stressed the plant. Most of the hermies, I've seen have been unintentional cases of light bleed or light irregularity but certainly other environmental stress, like excessive heat and root problems could cause a plant to hermie.
You might find more / better info, than I can give you by searching this site and reading some of the historical threads. Seems like the hermie topic has come up here in the past. I'm not a scientist and would defer to those who are. Don't believe everything you read and cross reference a bit for veracity. There's a lot of "bro science" and also alot of good information.
DieselNuts
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Eagle Scout from GPS
NewEnglandFarmer
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I'm going to do some topping today--all plants are at 5 notes or above, several are at 7 now.
Do I just cut the very top shoot? Or can I go down further? In other words, if the plant has 7 nodes, can I cut it at node 5?
Sterile razor blade the best method?
Do I just cut the very top shoot? Or can I go down further? In other words, if the plant has 7 nodes, can I cut it at node 5?
Sterile razor blade the best method?
Seawood
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Razor, scissors, etc. I just micro top mine. I don’t even use anything to cut the tops. They will snap off if you bend them over past 90 deg. Take the smallest amount of material away. The less you cut, the less time they will take to get going. Makes no sense to cut off a week’s worth of growth when you can get the same effect from cutting 2-3 days worth of growth. All you’re trying to accomplish is redistribute the growth auxins to the lower branches and reduce apical dominance (Xmas tree effect).
NewEnglandFarmer
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Are the tops worth saving for anything or just into the compost?
Seawood
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Some will use them for clones. I have so little material that I couldn’t root them if I wanted to. So unless you want to make babies, toss your clippings.
NewEnglandFarmer
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Just topped everything but two of the Tomahawks that are still looking a little droopy (one just got up-potted yesterday and the other is still in the 1g pot).
Ranged from 5-7 nodes, average was probably 6.
I have a twin-stemmed Copper Chem. I ended up topping both stems. You think I should just get rid of one whole stem?
My new loupe should arrive tomorrow. Hopefully I can ID some females and get them in the ground this weekend.
Ranged from 5-7 nodes, average was probably 6.
I have a twin-stemmed Copper Chem. I ended up topping both stems. You think I should just get rid of one whole stem?
My new loupe should arrive tomorrow. Hopefully I can ID some females and get them in the ground this weekend.
NewEnglandFarmer
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Here it is, freshly topped:
NewEnglandFarmer
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New jeweler's loupe arrive today and I was able to identify two males and 4 females--finally! Felt bad but relegated the boys to the compost pile. The others either didn't show any preflowers yet or I couldn't tell for sure.
I've only got room for 6 in the garden (legal limit) but have 20 plants remaining. Should I just stick the first female I can identify of each strain in the ground now, or wait till they all show and then pick the strongest/most interesting phenotype?
Other than size I honestly can't tell much difference between any of them yet, but I guess I have an untrained eye. Probably in flower they will show their unique traits more
One of the girls I identified was that Orange Blossom Special with the crinkly leaves (picture below). You think I should just chuck this now? I still have 3 others I can't sex yet, hopefully one will be a girl.
Couple more questions:
These just got topped yesterday. Should I let them recover a few more days before transplanting into the ground or just go for it tomorrow?
And how big a problem are deer? They're definitely around here but seem selective in what they eat. Are they attracted to cannabis?
I've only got room for 6 in the garden (legal limit) but have 20 plants remaining. Should I just stick the first female I can identify of each strain in the ground now, or wait till they all show and then pick the strongest/most interesting phenotype?
Other than size I honestly can't tell much difference between any of them yet, but I guess I have an untrained eye. Probably in flower they will show their unique traits more
One of the girls I identified was that Orange Blossom Special with the crinkly leaves (picture below). You think I should just chuck this now? I still have 3 others I can't sex yet, hopefully one will be a girl.
Couple more questions:
These just got topped yesterday. Should I let them recover a few more days before transplanting into the ground or just go for it tomorrow?
And how big a problem are deer? They're definitely around here but seem selective in what they eat. Are they attracted to cannabis?
Sevenleaves
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Put them things in the ground man! Dig some 3' holes fill with a mix of good compost, aged manure, peat moss amended with garden tone. They will thank you. I wouldn't throw that plant away, then again I wouldn't have topped so soon either. Try not to overthink it.
NewEnglandFarmer
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Planting holes were prepped last week. Just waiting to confirm sex. Was planning to start transplanting early this evening--I have a confirmed female of each strain, although that Orange Blossom Special with the funky leaves maybe should get culled. Genetic problem?
NWS is calling for thunderstorms and hail tonight. Great to have the rain, not sure a wild night of wind and hail hours after being transplanted is going to make the plants very happy. Maybe the safer plan is to plant tomorrow evening.
That would also give more time for the girls to reveal themselves so I can choose the most vigorous-looking to plant. Extras will be given away.
NWS is calling for thunderstorms and hail tonight. Great to have the rain, not sure a wild night of wind and hail hours after being transplanted is going to make the plants very happy. Maybe the safer plan is to plant tomorrow evening.
That would also give more time for the girls to reveal themselves so I can choose the most vigorous-looking to plant. Extras will be given away.
NewEnglandFarmer
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Got one of each strain in the ground last night--I was working at dusk and could hear the distant thunder from an approaching storm (nothing too windy or violent, but a good half-inch of rain came down which was desperately needed here!).
Fencing will go up today. Have one more spot available, waiting for another Orange Blossom Special female to show herself. Or maybe I should do the last one in a portable container, just as a precaution. Be nice to have one plant I could bring into the shed if things were to get really sketchy in the fall.
Hope the topping followed by the transplant 3 days later wasn't too stressful. They're certainly looking fine. Was anxious to get these in the ground ASAP and it seemed like they had outgrown those 2g pots.
Fencing will go up today. Have one more spot available, waiting for another Orange Blossom Special female to show herself. Or maybe I should do the last one in a portable container, just as a precaution. Be nice to have one plant I could bring into the shed if things were to get really sketchy in the fall.
Hope the topping followed by the transplant 3 days later wasn't too stressful. They're certainly looking fine. Was anxious to get these in the ground ASAP and it seemed like they had outgrown those 2g pots.
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Seawood
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Anyone else‘s plants in the northeast getting affected by the cold nights? All my plants other than one strain are not liking it. They’ll droop for 2-3 days after a night in the high 30s. Virtually no growth in over a week. Another frost warning for tonight in my area then It looks like clear sailing. Guess I’ll be bringing them inside one last time.
