COULD MY YIELDS BE BETTER WITH A DIFFERENT LIGHT???

Rickypsimer

Well-Known Member
Small HIDs are incredibly inefficient compared to their larger siblings(600, 1000). I would take a generic blurple over a low wattage HID all day.
Specifications
Light Source Parameters

  • LED Type: SMD2835 0,5W and 0.2W
  • LED Quantity: 672pcs
  • LED Power: 560x0.5W+112x0.2W=302.4W
  • Spectrum: Warm white 3000K, White 5000K, Red 660nm
  • Light Panel Size: 15.75 x 11.81in / 400 x 300mm

Electrical Parameters

  • Power Draw: 102W ±5%
  • Input Voltage: AC100-277V 50/60Hz
  • Input Current: 0.39 - 1.03A
  • Waterproof LED Driver
  • Power Cable Length: 4.4 Feet
 

Johnny Lawrence

Well-Known Member
Specifications
Light Source Parameters

  • LED Type: SMD2835 0,5W and 0.2W
  • LED Quantity: 672pcs
  • LED Power: 560x0.5W+112x0.2W=302.4W
  • Spectrum: Warm white 3000K, White 5000K, Red 660nm
  • Light Panel Size: 15.75 x 11.81in / 400 x 300mm

Electrical Parameters

  • Power Draw: 102W ±5%
  • Input Voltage: AC100-277V 50/60Hz
  • Input Current: 0.39 - 1.03A
  • Waterproof LED Driver
  • Power Cable Length: 4.4 Feet
Amazing. Thank you so much for this useless info.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Neither one you mentioned mixes 4000k 6000k and red and that's what I was looking for.....
Pretty sure it would be 3k & 5k with 660nm as that would make allot more sense & the same spectrum as the knock-offs of HLG's QB's that your knock off is knocking off of.
Feal me yo !
For $25 more you could get a real knock off called SpiderFarmer.
You'll still do allot better then the Burples alone.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Specifications
Light Source Parameters

  • LED Type: SMD2835 0,5W and 0.2W
  • LED Quantity: 672pcs
  • LED Power: 560x0.5W+112x0.2W=302.4W
  • Spectrum: Warm white 3000K, White 5000K, Red 660nm
  • Light Panel Size: 15.75 x 11.81in / 400 x 300mm

Electrical Parameters

  • Power Draw: 102W ±5%
  • Input Voltage: AC100-277V 50/60Hz
  • Input Current: 0.39 - 1.03A
  • Waterproof LED Driver
  • Power Cable Length: 4.4 Feet
Completely useless info. Mang!
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Specifications
Light Source Parameters

  • LED Type: SMD2835 0,5W and 0.2W
  • LED Quantity: 672pcs
  • LED Power: 560x0.5W+112x0.2W=302.4W
  • Spectrum: Warm white 3000K, White 5000K, Red 660nm
  • Light Panel Size: 15.75 x 11.81in / 400 x 300mm

Electrical Parameters

  • Power Draw: 102W ±5%
  • Input Voltage: AC100-277V 50/60Hz
  • Input Current: 0.39 - 1.03A
  • Waterproof LED Driver
  • Power Cable Length: 4.4 Feet
I posted this in a PM but meant to post here the other day.

-Looking good bud!
I find a nice mix of Burple & white give me the prettiest buds & IR helps them finish on time.
Might be running a cheapies that are not very efficient but you will still get nice results.
250-350w of efficient, quality leds is enough to do a 2x4.
You're on 300w of cheapies? If so, id consider another white board.
400-500w of cheapies @ a 50/50 mix white & burple should do the trick. The white will improve your bud size & everything.
A few yrs ago good led was around 1.7-1.9 umol/j, now they are 2.0-2.8. Much more light per watt used.
Now cheap Alibaba burples have not upgraded at all, leaving you with less efficient leds then a 400w SE , HPS. Around 1.2-1.4. Pretty sad. 600w HPS is the most efficient SE bulb. Anything below that is even less.
If your QB thingy is 2.0 umol/j then that will bump your tent average to around the efficiency of OK leds a few yrs ago. Maybe 1.8 if you have x2 boards added to the mix.
This should land you around 1+GPW on average depending on your growing.
Peace!
 

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
I posted this in a PM but meant to post here the other day.

-Looking good bud!
I find a nice mix of Burple & white give me the prettiest buds & IR helps them finish on time.
Might be running a cheapies that are not very efficient but you will still get nice results.
250-350w of efficient, quality leds is enough to do a 2x4.
You're on 300w of cheapies? If so, id consider another white board.
400-500w of cheapies @ a 50/50 mix white & burple should do the trick. The white will improve your bud size & everything.
A few yrs ago good led was around 1.7-1.9 umol/j, now they are 2.0-2.8. Much more light per watt used.
Now cheap Alibaba burples have not upgraded at all, leaving you with less efficient leds then a 400w SE , HPS. Around 1.2-1.4. Pretty sad. 600w HPS is the most efficient SE bulb. Anything below that is even less.
If your QB thingy is 2.0 umol/j then that will bump your tent average to around the efficiency of OK leds a few yrs ago. Maybe 1.8 if you have x2 boards added to the mix.
This should land you around 1+GPW on average depending on your growing.
Peace!
They seem to be doing that dodgy thing though, 301w under "led power" but 102w under "power draw"
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
They seem to be doing that dodgy thing though, 301w under "led power" but 102w under "power draw"
I don't understand?
Oh, you mean a the white QB double knock offs are claiming higher wattage then it draws just like the Cheapie Burples do?
 
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bk78

Well-Known Member
It's true there are Chinese companies that do make claims to use them, when they don't.
Isn't that something you can be glad to know Mars Hydro isn't bs'ing about? They use Epistar SMDs. And theybsay so.
As far as China not being able to use Samsungs AT ALL, They're made IN China....
Gargle them balls dude
 

Gond00s

Well-Known Member
all im saying two mars1000's will kick that areas ass because way better than blurple or the light u bought :lol:
 

Gond00s

Well-Known Member
Fuck what’s with all the mars fanboys in the last 2 weeks here. They must be sending free shit out to anyone who will rep for them.
fan boy no id rather hlg. but ill give the new series a try and I have and its not shitty like blurple and its somewhat comparable to qbs
 

Gond00s

Well-Known Member
So you got sent free shit is what you’re saying?
I fucking wish. I paid for it because I wanted a light for a 2x2 kicks ass and will kick ass in flower but i only really use it to make one bushy girl at a time and no im not saying they have good shit their business is shady as all hell but it looks like they turned a new leaf for now atleast
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
So you got sent free shit is what you’re saying?
Getting some free shit doesn't mean the dude using it is BS'ng ya know.
I get free shit sometimes & post my honest opinion & grows using them. Like a tester i guess.
Its a good way for these companies to get the product out & reviews pumping, whether good or bad. Companies have no control over the guy that got the fixture.
Now, if dealing with the Shadiest of all LED manufacturers like HydroGrow then they try to control you but fuck that.
Mars was Shady but have been long standing & obviously made some improvements worth bragging about.
Don't knock the guy for sharing his experience dude.
 
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