First grow. Any tips or advice is appreciated.
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i have used a magnifier with light attatched and havent been able to find any. There were other signs of bugs so i have a pest strip in there and have been spraying ortho 3 in1 as well. Ive been using fox farm grow big and big bloom with some cal mag every other watering, i water about every 3-4 days just when needed so it gets fed about once a week.
Ive been working up to thee recommended ppm the FF chart is at and i forgot to check last feeding but the one before that was in the 650 which is way lower than the 1750 the chart recommends so maybe i need to up the feed. The last feeding i upped the feed a bit but not too much. If it matters i just use regular tap water that has a ppm of around 100 and ph of low 7s. I get the ph down to about 6.5 whenever i water though.
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forgot to mention i was feeding calmag every other watering but just gave them calmag twice in a row after finding this growth. Im hoping im not making one the newb mistakes where i think more nutes is best but im just thinking this isnt the case since i started light on the nutes and worked my way up, along with the low ppm.
Skidmarx
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You've got most thing covered! Thinking about other elements that could be causing it K+ deficiency looks similar (stem stay green starts at edge) Interesting page link bellow.
Half way down page
https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/quick-and-dirty-deficiency-picture-depot-expanded-to-include-other-issues-as-well.43164/
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https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/quick-and-dirty-deficiency-picture-depot-expanded-to-include-other-issues-as-well.43164/
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It does look similar to potassium deficiency. That was one i didnt even think about because i figured it wouldnt get that type deficiency until flower but i guess it still needs more than what FF is providing. Ill see if more potassium will help, thanks
Skidmarx
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Couple of ideas
1st check your soil...
Growweedeasy has a page and states K is best absorbed at lower pH ranges. Are you still using the fluid mixer pH testing kit? Try get a digital meter? Either way Check your run off and see the acidity of the soil. plenty of chatter on the boards on it. If soil is high pH - flush well, let dry then restart feed.
2nd...
if you are looking to supplementing, Rather than trying to increase K alone ( bearing in mind you are still under recommended dose) Consider upping the FF? It has a well balance spread of essential elements(judging from ingredient list ive not used it) If you do just be ready to do the flush if it looks worse after
1st check your soil...
Growweedeasy has a page and states K is best absorbed at lower pH ranges. Are you still using the fluid mixer pH testing kit? Try get a digital meter? Either way Check your run off and see the acidity of the soil. plenty of chatter on the boards on it. If soil is high pH - flush well, let dry then restart feed.
2nd...
if you are looking to supplementing, Rather than trying to increase K alone ( bearing in mind you are still under recommended dose) Consider upping the FF? It has a well balance spread of essential elements(judging from ingredient list ive not used it) If you do just be ready to do the flush if it looks worse after
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I have a soil ph tester and its saying the Ph is in the high 7 which is high. Ive read these tools arent always the most accurate but since thats something you pointed out and it just so happens it is high so i think i will do the flush next time i water. Ive also read its good to flush a few times when using bottled nutrients because of salt buld up and other things so just another reason to flush. Only thing i got a question about is would it be ok to go straight to the recomended amounts of nutes and ppm the FF chart suggest after flush or do you think it would shock the plants.
Skidmarx
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7 is not through roof (if correct). your run off will be higher at start of flush compared to end . So note both during flush. (most cannabis prefers slightly acidic soil) Search boards for optimal volume of H20. I've only done it pre harvest and that was 3X volume of the pot she was in.
I was always cautious with feed I increased in 3rds.
bUT...your MK was doing fine until this one problem arises. Consider restarting on 50% recommend dose post flush. Either way
You have a while waiting for her to dry after flush so consider a new post in the nutrient section regarding restart feed ratio.
One of my 2 A.H. was very tender to EVERY factor. I would bin her now but it was a good learning aid. Always gonna be a runt in every litter (not yours I'm sure she'll pull through.)
I was always cautious with feed I increased in 3rds.
bUT...your MK was doing fine until this one problem arises. Consider restarting on 50% recommend dose post flush. Either way
You have a while waiting for her to dry after flush so consider a new post in the nutrient section regarding restart feed ratio.
One of my 2 A.H. was very tender to EVERY factor. I would bin her now but it was a good learning aid. Always gonna be a runt in every litter (not yours I'm sure she'll pull through.)
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quick little update. They are all growing nicely and the wonder woman did pull through. In fact she caught up to the rest of them. I switched them to flower on August 13th and the stretch has been amazing to watch. As you can see she is filling out the grow box well.
The only thing ive added is a new oscillating tower fan like suggested in this thread. For some reason lately my temps have rose quite a bit. Ever since I added cfl the temps have went up a lot but for lately if I don't have ac running all day the temps can get to about 95 Fahrenheit. So to prevent this ive just been keeping the door open a bit to keep it around a steady 80. I shut it when lights are off because I am aware of light leak stressing plants. My box isnt completely light proof but when lights are off in the box the lights in the room are off and sometimes ill even put a sheet over it for extra protection. Heres some pics I took of them inside of box because I was too busy/lazy to take them out and take individual pics.
The only thing ive added is a new oscillating tower fan like suggested in this thread. For some reason lately my temps have rose quite a bit. Ever since I added cfl the temps have went up a lot but for lately if I don't have ac running all day the temps can get to about 95 Fahrenheit. So to prevent this ive just been keeping the door open a bit to keep it around a steady 80. I shut it when lights are off because I am aware of light leak stressing plants. My box isnt completely light proof but when lights are off in the box the lights in the room are off and sometimes ill even put a sheet over it for extra protection. Heres some pics I took of them inside of box because I was too busy/lazy to take them out and take individual pics.
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So i am one month and 5 days since I have switched to 12/12 and the plants are looking amazing and super crystally, I am no longer having heat problems since ive taken out 2 of the cfl bulbs so i can keep my door shut and not have to worry about light leaking out being wasted. The temps will only get as high as 86 but thats only if air is off all day. It usually stays in the low 80s. The wonder woman is the one with the biggest cola that i used my hand to compare it but thats just because i didnt do much training with her. The ak48 seems to have significantly smaller buds than the rest but i believe that might be due to me topping about 2 weeks before switching to flower so maybe it wasnt enough time to fully recover. The master kush also has a nice sized cola going while the super skunk has about 6 medium sized colas. The smell is starting to come in and im so excited because i love the smell of cannabis. Kinda hoping that since my box isnt air tight the smell will leak out a bit just to where whenever i walk into the room i will be rewarded with the great smell of bud nut not powerful enough to get in my whole house. I am super excited for harvest but i will be sure to let it run full cycle and read trichs before chopping. Its starting to look like my first harvest is about a month away as long as nothing crazy happens to them thatll kill them but idk what could do that. Maybe if they all hermied but they shouldnt. So as long as i can cure without getting mold i will be smoking my first ever personally grown bud in about 2 months. Thanks for all the tips and advice rollitup community. Will be sure to update when buds start to fatten up with more and better pics.
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I have already planned it out, just going to hang dry in my grow box. The only thing i am worried about with the cure is i will most likely be out of town for 4 days and as long as the plants finish around the 9th week from 12/12 ill have to have someone else do it who doesnt know how or even know why to cure so id be a little worried about mold so I am considering letting them go up until a few days before i go out of town on oct. 28th so they can dry while im gone but that would be past the 10 week mark from 12/12. I guess ill just go off the trichomes but try to let them go as long as they can. I also want to aim to harvest later so i dont end up harvesting earry so maybe this will help. Some of the trichomes are already cloudy so I know its getting close. Still no sign of amber color
Skidmarx
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I didn't realise that i could loose the dank smell during dry & cure. I did a post on,1st dry and cure during summer. (Loads of others out there)
Temps: Keep as close to 20oc smaller space the better. I put bottles of Ice in there and have fan on/off every 15 minutes. Stop cold being sucked out immediately
Humudity: relative to rh in your house. I found closer to 50-9% was ideal for me.
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Despite all my changes I've not hung for more than 8 days. The long cure is defiantly a winner. Mould is more a factor in very dense buds
Temps: Keep as close to 20oc smaller space the better. I put bottles of Ice in there and have fan on/off every 15 minutes. Stop cold being sucked out immediately
Humudity: relative to rh in your house. I found closer to 50-9% was ideal for me.
Dark as possible
Despite all my changes I've not hung for more than 8 days. The long cure is defiantly a winner. Mould is more a factor in very dense buds
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So today I am exactly 8 weeks from 12/12 but about 6.5 weeks (46 days) from pistils showing. The smell has gotten noticeably stronger which i feel like is a sign of getting close and on my super skunk it seems like majority of the white pistols have receded into the buds.
On my wonder woman you can see some of the leaves have a bleached look to them. This might be light burn because there was a day i went in there and the bud was touching the cfl bulb and had even burned some the bud so i just cut it off, As you can see however, the leaves still show signs of what looks like to me to be nute burn since the leaf tips curl up (i just read that on random thread so correct me if im wrong) but I gave them a heavy water and im going to step back off the nutes for a little bit, probably ive them one last small feeding 2 weeks before i harvest.
Speaking of harvest Id love to run them to full maturity so im going to try to play it safe and harvest past the 9 week mark. 9 weeks is up 3 days before i go out of town for 4 days (which i might plan on drying during this time if i can get a friend i trust to watch my dry box temp and humidity) but if not I will let it run a bit over 10 weeks which might be for the better. So basically the plants will be done in 4 weeks max but might chop them around 3 weeks from now. If anyone thinks the plants shouldn't go that long from just how they look maturity wise let me know. Im always open for criticism. Ive seen amber trichomes here and there on the super skunk, master kush, and wonder woman but not many. Most have gotten cloudy but still a bit that are clear.
On my wonder woman you can see some of the leaves have a bleached look to them. This might be light burn because there was a day i went in there and the bud was touching the cfl bulb and had even burned some the bud so i just cut it off, As you can see however, the leaves still show signs of what looks like to me to be nute burn since the leaf tips curl up (i just read that on random thread so correct me if im wrong) but I gave them a heavy water and im going to step back off the nutes for a little bit, probably ive them one last small feeding 2 weeks before i harvest.
Speaking of harvest Id love to run them to full maturity so im going to try to play it safe and harvest past the 9 week mark. 9 weeks is up 3 days before i go out of town for 4 days (which i might plan on drying during this time if i can get a friend i trust to watch my dry box temp and humidity) but if not I will let it run a bit over 10 weeks which might be for the better. So basically the plants will be done in 4 weeks max but might chop them around 3 weeks from now. If anyone thinks the plants shouldn't go that long from just how they look maturity wise let me know. Im always open for criticism. Ive seen amber trichomes here and there on the super skunk, master kush, and wonder woman but not many. Most have gotten cloudy but still a bit that are clear.
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thanks man, was able to pull it off with the help of this forum. Just took a bit of reading on here every night i was on my computer. Excited to learn even more and upgrade my grow box overtime and see what i can pull off with a better built box and better lights. Still proud of the results so far for what I am using.
Skidmarx
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That masterkush is the one I like the look of the most. Don't think I told you I think you picked a great selection! Have not grown any of those strains but the boards and IG will have peoples experience of finishing times of individual strains. I was sceptical you could maximize your yield in that space but bravo, finish line in sight get ready for your prize !.
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So i harvested yesterday! I know its a lot earlier than i planned but i figured since the trip got cancelled so i didn't have to work around that window to dry it kinda happened. They were done for sure, I had went to check on them one day and they just looked significantly more crystallized and smelled better so i checked trichomes and sure enough got about 10% amber. I let them go a few more days just to be safe and chopped. Sorry i didn't take any pics pre chop but i was just so excited i went right into it.
The buds are all pretty good. If i had to rate the bud so far off of looks i would give it an 8/10 so i am satisfied. I did plan on chopping on the 28th but like i said they were just done. Since the beginning i knew i wasn't going to be able to hold out until whenever i planned to harvest so I added 5 days on when i saw pistils and started counting from there to kinda halfway trick myself into making them go a little longer. Im glad i did cause it helped. After they finish drying and i can trim them up better i will be uploading pics for sure this time. Drying conditions are in dark closet in about 60% humidity and 65-70 Fahrenheit.
The yield isnt looking like a lot but i honestly dont care because i was successful with all 4 plants and the quality is good so i am satisfied. The Ak48 was easily the lowest producer cuz the small buds. I had alot of popcorn buds on her so kept the trim separated to do its own bubble hash run with. If i had to guess the wonder woman or masterksuh yielded the most which is surprising since the wonder woman i did the least amount of training with and I had problems with her from the start. The masterkush as well i did the second to least amount of training on her but yet the yield was really good and she has the densest nugs. The super skunk didnt yield as much as i liked and i was hoping she was going to yield the most but her buds are the prettiest to me. I know next grow i will have to improve light for sure. Id also want a bigger space to grow but that will probably be the toughest since im limited to growing in my room only since theres basically no where else for a setup.
Ill have the final weigh in and pics when they are dry then the smoke report when they are cured. Thanks again to everyone on this thread.
The buds are all pretty good. If i had to rate the bud so far off of looks i would give it an 8/10 so i am satisfied. I did plan on chopping on the 28th but like i said they were just done. Since the beginning i knew i wasn't going to be able to hold out until whenever i planned to harvest so I added 5 days on when i saw pistils and started counting from there to kinda halfway trick myself into making them go a little longer. Im glad i did cause it helped. After they finish drying and i can trim them up better i will be uploading pics for sure this time. Drying conditions are in dark closet in about 60% humidity and 65-70 Fahrenheit.
The yield isnt looking like a lot but i honestly dont care because i was successful with all 4 plants and the quality is good so i am satisfied. The Ak48 was easily the lowest producer cuz the small buds. I had alot of popcorn buds on her so kept the trim separated to do its own bubble hash run with. If i had to guess the wonder woman or masterksuh yielded the most which is surprising since the wonder woman i did the least amount of training with and I had problems with her from the start. The masterkush as well i did the second to least amount of training on her but yet the yield was really good and she has the densest nugs. The super skunk didnt yield as much as i liked and i was hoping she was going to yield the most but her buds are the prettiest to me. I know next grow i will have to improve light for sure. Id also want a bigger space to grow but that will probably be the toughest since im limited to growing in my room only since theres basically no where else for a setup.
Ill have the final weigh in and pics when they are dry then the smoke report when they are cured. Thanks again to everyone on this thread.