New England outdoors 2018

thumper60

thumper60

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Ijustlikegardening said:
Also thanks for the responses about my budrot question. I have been looking for those discolored leaves and haven't seen anything yet (knock on wood), but all the talk of it is scaring me. It's like Voldemort
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not sure how long ya plants r into flower but I don't get it till big fat buds like the pic above,2-3 week before really done iam fighting it now on plants that need couple more weeks I would rather lose some on the way to finish then pull early
 
Seawood

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Can someone tell me if these skinny-ass looking buds are on schedule? Supposedly done in 3 weeks +/- but looking like a long ways to go yet. They are 5-6 weeks in and taking their sweet ass time. Getting nervous...
 

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Anyone have experience drying in a lower than ideal temperature? I can only dry in my shed because reasons and I'm worried that the cold might be a problem for my later finishers. I would guess it probably averages about 10 degrees F warmer than the outside temp, so night time in November could get down to freezing.
 
Black-Thumb

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Seawood said:
Can someone tell me if these skinny-ass looking buds are on schedule? Supposedly done in 3 weeks +/- but looking like a long ways to go yet. They are 5-6 weeks in and taking their sweet ass time. Getting nervous...
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They look ok to me. Im a noob, but I don't see anything that screams "obvious issue" to me. (**EDIT...I'd ask some of the guys here to confirm that everything looks ok in the first and second picture. I cant tell from pics as well as some others on here, but you may need to give them some closer pics...there may be some PM issues you need to address.**)

At the stage they are now, they typically bulk up exponentially (if they have what it takes to bulk up at all) from what I've seen. So you will get dramatic growth towards the end (last few weeks) that can account for a decent percentage of your final weight.

They do look like they have some time to go...so I'd just keep taking care of them, make sure they stay happy, and in a few weeks start checking all the signs we use to find out how close they are. Weather permitting of course.

If you start getting issues from moisture, then it becomes a different conversation...basically how far you feel you can push them without risking everything. Keep posting pics, there are lots of pros in our midst...they will help.
 
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Ijustlikegardening said:
Anyone have experience drying in a lower than ideal temperature? I can only dry in my shed because reasons and I'm worried that the cold might be a problem for my later finishers. I would guess it probably averages about 10 degrees F warmer than the outside temp, so night time in November could get down to freezing.
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Same thing happened to me last year. Its deff tough if it's very cold. Not just because of potential low temps, but also because it becomes difficult to control humidity without some heat.

I tried 2 things to combat this. A dry box that gave them a little micro-climate that was easier to control, and cutting the plant into smaller sections with less large stem sections. Also wet trimming to remove leaves.

My goal when I did that was to reduce dry time as much as possible without destroying quality, since the dry room temps (and therefore RH) werent perfect. I had some success with both methods, but also some failures (when I thought they were done and jarred them early)...but it is deff a learning experience.

You could add a space heater to your shed, and/or buy some cheap insulation. Whatever you decide to do, in less then ideal conditions, it becomes even more important to monitor the flowers carefully to make sure they arent drying dangerously fast or slow.

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When I had that same issue I...
- Wet trimmed
- Cut smaller sections to min dry time
- Insulated a small section in the shed where the flowers were
- added a space heater
- monitored the environment carefully
- checked on the flowers often

It was a lot more of a PITA but it ended up working out in the end (for my first time growing anything) haha
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Black-Thumb said:
Same thing happened to me last year. Its deff tough if it's very cold. Not just because of potential low temps, but also because it becomes difficult to control humidity without some heat.

I tried 2 things to combat this. A dry box that gave them a little micro-climate that was easier to control, and cutting the plant into smaller sections with less large stem sections. Also wet trimming to remove leaves.

My goal when I did that was to reduce dry time as much as possible without destroying quality, since the dry room temps (and therefore RH) werent perfect. I had some success with both methods, but also some failures (when I thought they were done and jarred them early)...but it is deff a learning experience.

You could add a space heater to your shed, and/or buy some cheap insulation. Whatever you decide to do, in less then ideal conditions, it becomes even more important to monitor the flowers carefully to make sure they arent drying dangerously fast or slow.

(TL;DR version)
When I had that same issue I...
- Wet trimmed
- Cut smaller sections to min dry time
- Insulated a small section in the shed where the flowers were
- added a space heater
- monitored the environment carefully
- checked on the flowers often

It was a lot more of a PITA but it ended up working out in the end (for my first time growing anything) haha
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Thanks for the tips! When you say wet trim, is that including sugar leaves or just the fan leaves?
 
threeputt

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Ijustlikegardening said:
Thanks for the tips! When you say wet trim, is that including sugar leaves or just the fan leaves?
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Wet trim is immediately after harvest. Dry trim is after drying 10 days - 2 weeks whatever it takes and maybe a little more challenging for small personal grows. I always wet trim and dry then save the sugar leaves for hash process later on. Pic is my most recent dryng process after rough wet trim.
 

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Seawood said:
Can someone tell me if these skinny-ass looking buds are on schedule? Supposedly done in 3 weeks +/- but looking like a long ways to go yet. They are 5-6 weeks in and taking their sweet ass time. Getting nervous...
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hmmmm done in 3 weeks??? Never heard of that. Most flowers are done in 8 - 12 weeks. I pushed flowering dark cycle to 14 hours / day once and harvested in 8+ weeks, generally 10 weeks. Check out your trichs are they cloudy or clear? Patience is a virtue.
 
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threeputt said:
Wet trim is immediately after harvest. Dry trim is after drying 10 days - 2 weeks whatever it takes and maybe a little more challenging for small personal grows. I always wet trim and dry then save the sugar leaves for hash process later on. Pic is my most recent dryng process after rough wet trim.
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PS I also stop watering 2-3 days before harvest to help the drying process.
 
threeputt

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socaljoe said:
That was a good catch. I sometimes miss them when I'm right up looking at the plants. :blsmoke:
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OK so I Bt sprayed my outdoor trees yesterday and got my magnifying glass out this morning and checked as many buds as I could reach for signs of the bud worm and their poop. I picked off one green worm and only saw worm poop on one other bud. I will continue checking and spray Bt again next week. Majority of buds (99%) seem to have bright pistils and starting to stack nicely, right on schedule. Can anyone advise what time of day is best to catch and squish these little beasts, and how rampant bud worm infestation can get? Am I just not seeing them or is this just a small blip on an otherwise healthy grow??
 
thumper60

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threeputt said:
OK so I Bt sprayed my outdoor trees yesterday and got my magnifying glass out this morning and checked as many buds as I could reach for signs of the bud worm and their poop. I picked off one green worm and only saw worm poop on one other bud. I will continue checking and spray Bt again next week. Majority of buds (99%) seem to have bright pistils and starting to stack nicely, right on schedule. Can anyone advise what time of day is best to catch and squish these little beasts, and how rampant bud worm infestation can get? Am I just not seeing them or is this just a small blip on an otherwise healthy grow??
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I like hand picking in early am,just look for the shit when u find some then really!! look for the worms.the bt is not a contact killer it takes a few days but it works 100%
 
Seawood

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threeputt said:
hmmmm done in 3 weeks??? Never heard of that. Most flowers are done in 8 - 12 weeks. I pushed flowering dark cycle to 14 hours / day once and harvested in 8+ weeks, generally 10 weeks. Check out your trichs are they cloudy or clear? Patience is a virtue.
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I meant 3 more weeks. Mine are 9 week strains, supposedly.
 
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