Has tRUMP ever listened to a briefing?

Roger A. Shrubber

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i just do not understand how people believe trump's bullshit. he lies so much that google news put a permanent link to fact checks articles on their news page. there are broadcasters that are making a career out of correcting him. the facts are there, but it's like he and his supporters don't believe in the facts, so they don't exist for them? are they really that removed from reality? they would rather believe that 90% of the news outlets on the planet are in a conspiracy to lie about trump?
are there that many racist, homophobic, uneducated, isolationist, that don't care about children getting killed in school, that don't care about anything, as long as their lunatic agenda gets advanced?
how can people with those values not vomit when they saw how trump acted with putin? how can they believe that he meant to say a single word but the ones he did say?
that's self delusion, it's rationalization of the highest order......it's a mental illness.
 

Fogdog

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i just do not understand how people believe trump's bullshit. he lies so much that google news put a permanent link to fact checks articles on their news page. there are broadcasters that are making a career out of correcting him. the facts are there, but it's like he and his supporters don't believe in the facts, so they don't exist for them? are they really that removed from reality? they would rather believe that 90% of the news outlets on the planet are in a conspiracy to lie about trump?
are there that many racist, homophobic, uneducated, isolationist, that don't care about children getting killed in school, that don't care about anything, as long as their lunatic agenda gets advanced?
how can people with those values not vomit when they saw how trump acted with putin? how can they believe that he meant to say a single word but the ones he did say?
that's self delusion, it's rationalization of the highest order......it's a mental illness.
I don't understand either. My brother is one of them. We were very tight growing up and into adulthood. When we talk about politics (it's been a few years), we agreed upon wanting the same things for this country but he saw that coming from Republicans, not Democrats. One difference between him and me was he never questioned authority and I rebelled. We are still close as family. We just don't talk politics. He's not a lunatic, I just don't understand his reasons. He is doing OK financially but like others some years have been harrowing in terms of job insecurity. He's not religious in any way either. His wife is the same way.

He's prone to believe some pretty wild false conspiracy theories.and as I said is much more of an authoritarian than me, also has racist leanings.

Projecting what I know about my brother to Trumpers, I'd say they are probably decent people at the personal level but they tend to follow different leaders and ideas. I don't know but I think if asked he'd say the people who are arrested at the border shouldn't have come here in the first place, thereby justifying anything done to them. The Russia thing is a fabrication by the media and Trumps opposition. It's a weave of authoritarianism and suspension of belief regarding news sources that say things counter to his beliefs. I know I'm not making the case for Trump believers being sane here, I'll just say he rationalizes things differently than me.
 

Budley Doright

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Putting all of his policies aside, which I can see would appeal to some. It’s the fucking lies and tirades. Calling the press the enemy of the people, disparaging other world leaders, and too many other fucked up things that spews from his Putin dick holder. Do his supporters not see that shit? How can they keep supporting that? That’s what I don’t get. The steel plant lie is over the top. His people do try and get him on point with the prepared statements but 3 sentences in he starts his own shit and it goes all to hell :(. We’re in the same shit up here on a Provincial level now, god help us all, and I don’t think he can :(.
 

Fogdog

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Putting all of his policies aside, which I can see would appeal to some. It’s the fucking lies and tirades. Calling the press the enemy of the people, disparaging other world leaders, and too many other fucked up things that spews from his Putin dick holder. Do his supporters not see that shit? How can they keep supporting that? That’s what I don’t get. The steel plant lie is over the top. His people do try and get him on point with the prepared statements but 3 sentences in he starts his own shit and it goes all to hell :(. We’re in the same shit up here on a Provincial level now, god help us all, and I don’t think he can :(.
we are talking about roughly 35% of the country who don't care what Trump says they support him. Sounds huge but that means 65% don't buy it. Trump's supporters either strictly believe what he says or they say that's Trump being Trump. In my opinion, I think they are so wrapped up in the culture wars and dislike of all policies that are socially liberal including political correctness, immigration enforcement and civil rights enforcement actions that they don't care what Trump says or does.

Not justifying anything, just saying that the 35% who support native conservative populism repeats in Europe and other places too. It seems to be something people are born with. My brother and I were only a year and a half apart in age yet he turned one way and I the other.

I have no numbers but will guess that if you scratch Canada you'll find similar split in attitudes.
 
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Huckster79

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I picture a trump breifing as this:

Trump: go ahead begin the breifing

Breifer: ok Mr President today we need to urgently discuss...

Trump: (in his mind "yea uh huh, i won biggly, oh look a butterfly out the window, fucking mueller, oh god i wonder what im missing on fox for this fake deepstate shit, oh god that interns tits look hot, Cohen godamn him, oh shit here's where the breifer tells me Vlads bad this guy is such a sucker for msnbc propoganda, tweet! shit fuck i gotta think of a good one, man Jared prob fucking Ivanka right now what a lucky prick that little jewish fuck, oh god is this ever gunna be over......) yea very good sir, thank you thank you ive heard enough, i got this, been preparing for this my whole life by practicing crooked real estate deals for years, come back tomorrow if you must.. Hey before you go, you know i won the biggest most mega biggest landside victory, right?

Breifer: yessir, Mr President, good day sir Mr President sir...
 

Budley Doright

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we are talking about roughly 35% of the country who don't care what Trump says they support him. Sounds huge but that means 65% don't buy it. Trump's supporters either strictly believe what he says or they say that's Trump being Trump. In my opinion, I think they are so wrapped up in the culture wars and dislike of all policies that are socially liberal including political correctness, immigration enforcement and civil rights enforcement actions that they don't care what Trump says or does.

Not justifying anything, just saying that the 35% who support native conservative populism repeats in Europe and other places too. It seems to be something people are born with. My brother and I were only a year and a half apart in age yet he turned one way and I the other.

I have no numbers but will guess that if you scratch Canada you'll find similar split in attitudes.
Yup your probably right about the numbers, and the ideology but we’re talking about the man and his untruths/lies and ya probably a whole bunch of shenanigans lol. He’s the president of the fucking US for gods sake and his every fucking word is a lie, exaggeration or just plain fuck g stupid.
 

schuylaar

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More misconstrued snowflake bullshit! Small businesses are very interested in these association plans are more and more are expressing their interest weekly.

#Walkaway
this already exists with most payroll companies that offer PEO. you can get group health with as little as 2-3 employees within your group because you become part of the payroll companies' larger group of hundreds of thousands.

when i was there, we had plans as low as $100 monthly..i used to call it 'the man plan' or 'jobber plan'..you know they only go to ER when they cut off an arm, type of patient?
 

schuylaar

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I picture a trump breifing as this:

Trump: go ahead begin the breifing

Breifer: ok Mr President today we need to urgently discuss...

Trump: (in his mind "yea uh huh, i won biggly, oh look a butterfly out the window, fucking mueller, oh god i wonder what im missing on fox for this fake deepstate shit, oh god that interns tits look hot, Cohen godamn him, oh shit here's where the breifer tells me Vlads bad this guy is such a sucker for msnbc propoganda, tweet! shit fuck i gotta think of a good one, man Jared prob fucking Ivanka right now what a lucky prick that little jewish fuck, oh god is this ever gunna be over......) yea very good sir, thank you thank you ive heard enough, i got this, been preparing for this my whole life by practicing crooked real estate deals for years, come back tomorrow if you must.. Hey before you go, you know i won the biggest most mega biggest landside victory, right?

Breifer: yessir, Mr President, good day sir Mr President sir...
*brief:hug:
 

Fogdog

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Yup your probably right about the numbers, and the ideology but we’re talking about the man and his untruths/lies and ya probably a whole bunch of shenanigans lol. He’s the president of the fucking US for gods sake and his every fucking word is a lie, exaggeration or just plain fuck g stupid.
I'm not sure what your point other than a complaint about Trump with which I agree. Yup, we screwed up last election and inflicted him not only on the US but but rest of the world too. Totally understand why the good people of Canada are angry not just with the US but me personally.

Trump is toast and will be stalled out politically after November if the 65% show up against right wing politics. That 35% and the conservative Independent voter who flips back and forth will be with us going forward. We have another ten years or more before they've died off enough to make our democracy safe. Might as well try to understand them. They aren't a mono-culture either. European populists are making trouble over there too. Conservative populist voters are everywhere, and sociopaths are using them, trying to gain power, so don't let your guard down on the home front.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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we are talking about roughly 35% of the country who don't care what Trump says they support him. Sounds huge but that means 65% don't buy it. Trump's supporters either strictly believe what he says or they say that's Trump being Trump. In my opinion, I think they are so wrapped up in the culture wars and dislike of all policies that are socially liberal including political correctness, immigration enforcement and civil rights enforcement actions that they don't care what Trump says or does.

Not justifying anything, just saying that the 35% who support native conservative populism repeats in Europe and other places too. It seems to be something people are born with. My brother and I were only a year and a half apart in age yet he turned one way and I the other.

I have no numbers but will guess that if you scratch Canada you'll find similar split in attitudes.
i find myself feeling the same way. someone says something in defense of trump, and then they use the same arguments to defend him that i was going to use to condemn him....how do you argue with someone like that?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Herb & Suds

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Space Force the newest shiny object to distract what Trump is really doing
Briefings aren't necessary when you "govern" by the seat of your pants
 
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