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Frank Nitty

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All strains labled S1 are fem. "Self seeded" shortened to S1... Which differs from "Filial generation" seed or F1, whose sex is indetermined.

F1 hybrids have a range of genetics from each parent to draw from, making pheno hunting a fun way to find a strain that embodies the characteristics of the parent you prefer. F2 is when you take a male and female from the same F1 stock to breed again. This narrows down the desired traits throughout the generations to create a more stable and consistent plant.

i.e. taking a male and female from the same seed stock that grow similar, smell similar and are overall genetically similar, will produce seeds that are more uniform and have less genetic diversity from the previous generation. And lines worked through F3, F4 and so on will produce plants that the breeders are trying ultimately trying to make. (Aficianado seeds has some stellar plants worked to the F11 generation that they make crosses with)
I got some F3 Stardawg from useful too!!! I can learn a lot from you Shmozz!!! You have a bank of good information about growing, I can tell!!! Thanks for the help in clearing that up for me!!!
 

Shmozz

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I got some F3 Stardawg from useful too!!! I can learn a lot from you Shmozz!!! You have a bank of good information about growing, I can tell!!! Thanks for the help in clearing that up for me!!!
Useful knows his stuff, and I'm happy to be testing some of his stuff right now. I'm on vacation, so I can't wait to see how my chocolate covered strawberries x fire cookies are looking when I get back! (Luckily I have a trusted family member looking after them) I'm sure the stardawg f3's will contain some fine specimens. He sent me a few Aficianado f2's that I'll be popping once I have more space. I know there will be something I'll want to keep around for a while.

Just keep reading old threads and doing your research. I've learned a lot from the peeps in here. Everyone's usually happy to answer questions or at least link you to the old thread that's already answered it. I still have a lot to learn, but grow more and more confident with every harvest thanks to the community!
 

Frank Nitty

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Useful knows his stuff, and I'm happy to be testing some of his stuff right now. I'm on vacation, so I can't wait to see how my chocolate covered strawberries x fire cookies are looking when I get back! (Luckily I have a trusted family member looking after them) I'm sure the stardawg f3's will contain some fine specimens. He sent me a few Aficianado f2's that I'll be popping once I have more space. I know there will be something I'll want to keep around for a while.

Just keep reading old threads and doing your research. I've learned a lot from the peeps in here. Everyone's usually happy to answer questions or at least link you to the old thread that's already answered it. I still have a lot to learn, but grow more and more confident with every harvest thanks to the community!
Yeah I know what you mean, the people here are some of the real deal cats and they have helped me out alot... Useful took a liking to me and he plugged me with a BUNCH of beans, even some Long Valley Royal Kush seeds!!! He's a good guy, I mean he didn't even know me but he saw my hunger and thirst to learn how to grow good pot... He sent me fems and regs... Im gonna go with the fems first cause I'm growing for my girl... I can't smoke yet cause I'm on papers, but I'm saving some of each grow for myself... Anyways, hes a really good dude and I can't say anything bad about him... He knows his shit for sure!!!
 

Frank Nitty

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If this is something you are watering in you would just turn the res off until the pots dry out enough you can manually water it in. If its something you amend before planting then you just do it before obviously. Should be easy enough I'd imagine.

How often do you add this stuff? If its a lot why not just build a complete living soil mix so nothing ever needs to be added or use BE-1 pellets? Something that dissolves over time...?
I'm new to the autopot thing and I'm looking for someone who has been using them or has used them to tell me what's up with them...
 
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Frank Nitty

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All strains labled S1 are fem. "Self seeded" shortened to S1... Which differs from "Filial generation" seed or F1, whose sex is indetermined.

F1 hybrids have a range of genetics from each parent to draw from, making pheno hunting a fun way to find a strain that embodies the characteristics of the parent you prefer. F2 is when you take a male and female from the same F1 stock to breed again. This narrows down the desired traits throughout the generations to create a more stable and consistent plant.

i.e. taking a male and female from the same seed stock that grow similar, smell similar and are overall genetically similar, will produce seeds that are more uniform and have less genetic diversity from the previous generation. And lines worked through F3, F4 and so on will produce plants that the breeders are trying ultimately trying to make. (Aficianado seeds has some stellar plants worked to the F11 generation that they make crosses with)
Wow that's extra scientific shit!!!
 

BionicΩChronic

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Thanks for the kind words you guys...really means a lot to me.
:clap: i got much love for you @Useful your one of my favorite breeders now if not my most favorite.
Lighting and giving you a interweb spliff :joint:
Take it to the dome don't pass it to no one. Be careful tho that's straight emoji OG
:mrgreen::rolleyes::lol:

:eyesmoke:
Can't wait to see these bitches FLOWER:weed:
I'll be checking on them tomorrow or day after so an update is coming soon...
 
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Frank Nitty

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Also if you take a clone from a plant. cross the mother with something find that you like the cross but want it to be more like the mother
Hit that f1 with the CLONE of the mother used in the cross. That's called a bx.

And Every time you cross back to the mother it's adds a bx so bx1 bx2 and so on so forth.
How. Do. You. Do. That???!!!!! That's what I want to know...
 

BionicΩChronic

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How. Do. You. Do. That???!!!!! That's what I want to know...
Say you like an og kush so you take a clone and flower out the plant. While flowered you hit it with male pollen. Cross the one of the resulting offspring with the clone you took from the og Kush n bam!!! bx1
 

Useful Seeds

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Also if you take a clone from a plant. cross the mother with something find that you like the cross but want it to be more like the mother
Hit that f1 with the CLONE of the mother used in the cross. That's called a bx.

And Every time you cross back to the mother it's adds a bx so bx1 bx2 and so on so forth.
I am doin a Chem 91 SKVA BX. Gonna do a Chem D BX as well.
 

greywind

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They will be regular seeds.For the Chem 91 I am hunting through some Moontang f2s looking for a proper male. I made the f2s for this project,better chance of finding that special guy by popping large amount of seeds.
That sounds like a beautiful project. I have quite a few Stardawg & Tres Dawg crosses in my stable, but nothing in the way of Chem 91 genetics. Good luck finding a nice stud in those Moontangs. I'll keep an eye out for this one my friend.

Also, I'm finally getting around to some of those genetics you hooked me up with. Going to drop some of the White Lotus x Sasquatch. Cheers and happy hunting!
 

Useful Seeds

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That sounds like a beautiful project. I have quite a few Stardawg & Tres Dawg crosses in my stable, but nothing in the way of Chem 91 genetics. Good luck finding a nice stud in those Moontangs. I'll keep an eye out for this one my friend.

Also, I'm finally getting around to some of those genetics you hooked me up with. Going to drop some of the White Lotus x Sasquatch. Cheers and happy hunting!
I am excited for sure, the Chem 91 JB cut is going to get involved in some action as well. Right now the bleeding Dragons Blood Hashplant is at just about 6 feet tall and ready to do his thing. Rattlesnake Diesel is one of the ones that are getting in on the action. Rattlesnake D is actually the original Laytonville Sour Diesel from way back when.

The White Lotus x Sasquatch is very nice. They will finish in just under 10 weeks, BIG buds, gonna need support fer sure.
 

Schwaggy P

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I'm still working on the smoke report for the (White Lotus x Genius Thai), but wanted to give it some time under glass before giving it a full write up. In the meantime, I'll be popping the Fruity Pebbles OG F3 and the Chocolate Trip F4 freebies that came with the (Chocolate Diesel x Chocolate Trip F3). I wanted to get acquainted with the Chocolate Trip first to get a better understanding of how the genes are expressing in the Chocolate Diesel cross.
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