England tells Trump to go feck your self, and go home

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
Why not?
There are 8 Senate seats held by Republicans and that are up for re-election in November.
All we need is 2 seats to flip the Senate.
I think Cruz is weak competing against O'Rourke, and Heller from Nevada also faces Titus.
Thursday on "Nevada Newsmakers," they cited Nevada voter registration numbers that favor Democrats

Republicans
Barrasso, John (R-WY)
Corker, Bob (R-TN)
Cruz, Ted (R-TX)
Fischer, Deb (R-NE)
Flake, Jeff (R-AZ)
Hatch, Orrin G. (R-UT)
Heller, Dean (R-NV)
Wicker, Roger F. (R-MS)

Independents
King, Angus S., Jr. (I-ME)
Sanders, Bernard (I-VT)

So, the Senate is up for grabs also

All we can do is pray
Pray the russains don't hack the vote...
 

Huckster79

Well-Known Member
you're right but the first to push the button knows that this is the end. none of these thug countries wish to die and upset their money making capabilities..trust it.

NK is all about survival as is everyone else.
I agree i didnt mean militarily though i guess those are the examples i gave, idk if we get out of this without full blown autocracy, or minimilly less free and less fair elections than we have.

I still feel it possible he "wins" again... i hope you are right, but im worried
 

Huckster79

Well-Known Member
Why not?
There are 8 Senate seats held by Republicans and that are up for re-election in November.
All we need is 2 seats to flip the Senate.
I think Cruz is weak competing against O'Rourke, and Heller from Nevada also faces Titus.
Thursday on "Nevada Newsmakers," they cited Nevada voter registration numbers that favor Democrats

Republicans
Barrasso, John (R-WY)
Corker, Bob (R-TN)
Cruz, Ted (R-TX)
Fischer, Deb (R-NE)
Flake, Jeff (R-AZ)
Hatch, Orrin G. (R-UT)
Heller, Dean (R-NV)
Wicker, Roger F. (R-MS)

Independents
King, Angus S., Jr. (I-ME)
Sanders, Bernard (I-VT)

So, the Senate is up for grabs also

All we can do is pray
Praying is fine but hard work, donating money, and vollunteering to canvas give rides, etc is a form of prayer in my religion... lets get out as it heats up and all of us put our time and money where our posts are :)
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Why not?
There are 8 Senate seats held by Republicans and that are up for re-election in November.
All we need is 2 seats to flip the Senate.
I think Cruz is weak competing against O'Rourke, and Heller from Nevada also faces Titus.
Thursday on "Nevada Newsmakers," they cited Nevada voter registration numbers that favor Democrats

Republicans
Barrasso, John (R-WY)
Corker, Bob (R-TN)
Cruz, Ted (R-TX)
Fischer, Deb (R-NE)
Flake, Jeff (R-AZ)
Hatch, Orrin G. (R-UT)
Heller, Dean (R-NV)
Wicker, Roger F. (R-MS)

Independents
King, Angus S., Jr. (I-ME)
Sanders, Bernard (I-VT)

So, the Senate is up for grabs also

All we can do is pray
I've never found prayer to be effective.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
They will, why should they worry about doing it again, nothing happened to them for doing it last time.
The elephant in this room is the fact that the United States had been doing it on a wholesale basis for most of a century around the world by now.

I find it disingenuous that so many people are running around screaming about this without taking any responsibility for us doing the same thing.

We even did it to Russia. Boris Yeltsin was a Western stooge. Putin was the backlash. Knowing a bit of history goes a long way towards understanding.

On to solutions; if this country were SERIOUS about making sure election fraud and hacking couldn't happen, we'd go right back to paper ballots. Russia is more of a convenient scapegoat however; there's plenty of vote rigging, voter suppression, throwing voters off the rolls and other electoral shenanigans that screaming about Russian influence distracts from.

There simple fact is that elections are about money and power. Those who have both are doing whatever they can to make certain that they maintain them and that any pesky desire by the voting public to actually have a say is duly subverted.

The worst perpetrators of American election fraud aren't across any oceans; they're right here under our noses and have been all along.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
The elephant in this room is the fact that the United States had been doing it on a wholesale basis for most of a century around the world by now.

I find it disingenuous that so many people are running around screaming about this without taking any responsibility for us doing the same thing.

We even did it to Russia. Boris Yeltsin was a Western stooge. Putin was the backlash. Knowing a bit of history goes a long way towards understanding.

On to solutions; if this country were SERIOUS about making sure election fraud and hacking couldn't happen, we'd go right back to paper ballots. Russia is more of a convenient scapegoat however; there's plenty of vote rigging, voter suppression, throwing voters off the rolls and other electoral shenanigans that screaming about Russian influence distracts from.

There simple fact is that elections are about money and power. Those who have both are doing whatever they can to make certain that they maintain them and that any pesky desire by the voting public to actually have a say is duly subverted.

The worst perpetrators of American election fraud aren't across any oceans; they're right here under our noses and have been all along.
Another intolerant liberal here telling you to shut the fuck up, thanks.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I'm an Atheist, but I'll try anything now.
Organize.

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders are attending a otherwise campaign rally in Kansas. I'm betting even Kansans are sick of how conservatives have fucked up their state's finances by now and are looking for better alternatives.

If it plays in Kansas, it will be hard to argue it isn't viable.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the history lesson captain obvious.
If this is your response to those who attempt to engage with you on an intellectual level, then you can't complain when they conclude you're just another stupid loudmouth.

I know you are more thoughtful than this.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I hear good things about Kristen Gillibrand.

What y'all have consistently and deliberately missed about Bernie Sanders is that it isn't about the man, it's about the policies he stands for.

Whoever is willing to carry that flag forward will find a lot of support.
 
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