The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
One way or another Mueller's findings on on obstruction of justice, election law violations, money laundering, tax evasion, fraud and conspiracy with russia will be released to the public before the next election. Mueller or Rosenstein or anybody in the investigation can go to capitol hill as a whistle blower and spill it all to any (democrat) senator or congressman, they'd never see a day in jail. The GOP leadership is just waiting for the shoe to drop during election season, primary season is over and Donald is always creating new crises and reasons to impeach him.

I figure the rest of the western allies including Canada are gonna get together and impose counter sanctions on the USA over the Iran deal, it's gonna hurt like HELL and breakup the western alliance, just like Putin wants. Putin wouldn't mind the breakup of the USA either and talk of it is playing right into the russians hands, solve your problems, make "a more perfect union". Roughly 30% of any population are trumper like, but history, hate and fear can increase that percentage, reduce fear and hate and you''ll go a long way towards the kind of country you want. That means two things, get reasonable gun laws, human rights laws and hate speech laws. Remove money from politics and make political corruption and bribery laws as easy to prove as a cannabis conspiracy case, where they seize your assets before a day in court. If they can do it for pot, ya can do it for political bribery and corruption...
 

Sour Wreck

Well-Known Member
One way or another Mueller's findings on on obstruction of justice, election law violations, money laundering, tax evasion, fraud and conspiracy with russia will be released to the public before the next election. Mueller or Rosenstein or anybody in the investigation can go to capitol hill as a whistle blower and spill it all to any (democrat) senator or congressman, they'd never see a day in jail. The GOP leadership is just waiting for the shoe to drop during election season, primary season is over and Donald is always creating new crises and reasons to impeach him.

I figure the rest of the western allies including Canada are gonna get together and impose counter sanctions on the USA over the Iran deal, it's gonna hurt like HELL and breakup the western alliance, just like Putin wants. Putin wouldn't mind the breakup of the USA either and talk of it is playing right into the russians hands, solve your problems, make "a more perfect union". Roughly 30% of any population are trumper like, but history, hate and fear can increase that percentage, reduce fear and hate and you''ll go a long way towards the kind of country you want. That means two things, get reasonable gun laws, human rights laws and hate speech laws. Remove money from politics and make political corruption and bribery laws as easy to prove as a cannabis conspiracy case, where they seize your assets before a day in court. If they can do it for pot, ya can do it for political bribery and corruption...

a civil war eliminating trumptards sounds more and more reasonable to me all the time.
 

Sir Napsalot

Well-Known Member
And TX is going purple. But I wasn't referring to republicans, I was referring to despicable's. They don't seem to be aging out of the population. They seem to move from host to host and never really go away; not unlike std's like gonorrhea.
I used to think that eventually all the old squares would die and the country would be reborn

I was wrong because I'm an idealist
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I used to think that eventually all the old squares would die and the country would be reborn

I was wrong because I'm an idealist
we've got neo-nazi and alt-right hate groups taking advantage of the increased rates of depression that the trump regime has caused literally recruiting vulnerable young folks (mostly guys who can't get laid) from depression help forums and the like

it's quite the hustle they have going
 

greg nr

Well-Known Member
Well, since trump has a for sale sign out, maybe we shoukld pool some money and f*** over the racists and evangelicals. Maybe we can get him to save lgbtq jobs in america, or ban guns to anyone with a red hat, or take away tax free status from mega churches that exist only to pamper their senior staffers and leaders.

I wonder what that would cost?
 

greg nr

Well-Known Member
a civil war eliminating trumptards sounds more and more reasonable to me all the time.
The problem with civil wars is that there are no winners, except for the external enemies of your country. And what makes you think we would win?

If the armed forces splits allegiances, all bets are off. And unfortunately for us, fascists tend to consolidate power quickly. We will be arguing over bernie as the tanks roll into the cities. Fox and the corporate media will be covering the royal wedding and the latest hot teacher having sex with a student.

Look at the results to the population in any modern civil war. Syria is a good recent example. You can't even find one building standing intact in major cities. Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dead from attacks. Many more displaced. Many more die as the result of malnutrition and illness.

The military remains loyal to the dictator. Even though they are killimg their own countrymen/woman/children. Morality dies quickly.

We need to win this battle before bullets fly, because I suspect we will be on the pointy end when they do.
 

Sour Wreck

Well-Known Member
The problem with civil wars is that there are no winners, except for the external enemies of your country. And what makes you think we would win?

If the armed forces splits allegiances, all bets are off. And unfortunately for us, fascists tend to consolidate power quickly. We will be arguing over bernie as the tanks roll into the cities. Fox and the corporate media will be covering the royal wedding and the latest hot teacher having sex with a student.

Look at the results to the population in any modern civil war. Syria is a good recent example. You can't even find one building standing intact in major cities. Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dead from attacks. Many more displaced. Many more die as the result of malnutrition and illness.

The military remains loyal to the dictator. Even though they are killimg their own countrymen/woman/children. Morality dies quickly.

We need to win this battle before bullets fly, because I suspect we will be on the pointy end when they do.

if some of the military side with trump supporters they will pay with lives...
 

greg nr

Well-Known Member
if some of the military side with trump supporters they will pay with lives...
The military has been infiltrated with white supremacists, evangelicals and racists. This has been going on for years. It's been made possible by the elimination of the draft.

Sure, a lot of young men and woman join the military for noble reasons. Then the first thing the military does is destroy their free will and defines success as a soldier who follows orders. But others have different motives. If you enter the military with a political purpose, that isn't erased. It can sit undetected for years. In the meantime you advance in rank and responsibility, gathering those who think as you do around you.

Yes, elements of the military will be loyal to whatever white fascist is around during times of internal conflict. If not the military as a whole refusing to aid the people, while propping up the regime.

And then there will be the paramilitary thugs. These pop up alongside most fascist dictators. They do the dirty work off the books. Disappearances, torture, kidnappings, theft, etc. All allowed to occur by a corrupt and illegitimate regime. While at the same time those they oppress will be targeted for official sanctions and legal actions.

Don't look forward to this. History is clear on what will happen. It won't be pretty for either side.
 

Sour Wreck

Well-Known Member
The military has been infiltrated with white supremacists, evangelicals and racists. This has been going on for years. It's been made possible by the elimination of the draft.

Sure, a lot of young men and woman join the military for noble reasons. Then the first thing the military does is destroy their free will and defines success as a soldier who follows orders. But others have different motives. If you enter the military with a political purpose, that isn't erased. It can sit undetected for years. In the meantime you advance in rank and responsibility, gathering those who think as you do around you.

Yes, elements of the military will be loyal to whatever white fascist is around during times of internal conflict. If not the military as a whole refusing to aid the people, while propping up the regime.

And then there will be the paramilitary thugs. These pop up alongside most fascist dictators. They do the dirty work off the books. Disappearances, torture, kidnappings, theft, etc. All allowed to occur by a corrupt and illegitimate regime. While at the same time those they oppress will be targeted for official sanctions and legal actions.

Don't look forward to this. History is clear on what will happen. It won't be pretty for either side.
time to go ninja on their asses. i am already becoming an anarchist. time to get armed...
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
America has a long way to go before descending into civil war 2, though Trump helps tremendously. You are nowhere near to exhausting all other legal and political possibilities, if the GOP does not pay a heavy price at the polls in november for their malfeasance, corruption and betrayal of their oaths to the constitution, then I'd say the country is finished. If the democrats don't sweep the house and take control of the senate the future of the nation would be in doubt because of a stunning level of poor judgement on the part of the population. How bad do they and Trump have to be before people start jumping ship? Look for a rare thing in modern American politics in november, a landslide, the GOP picked up over 60 seats in 2010 over essentially nothing, compared to what is going on now. I believe many elephants will die even in the deep south, this time around the bullshit can't cover the concerns of the public.

Wait until they steal the election or Trump tries to nullify the results etc before taking action, when the lawyers hit the streets and when upstanding citizens who you respect agree, the time will have come. Everybody knows how this farce of a presidency will HAVE TO END, it's just a question of WHEN IT WILL END, the how is by impeachment and the GOP is gonna have to take a knife to the fucker before the election if they wanna come out the other side as one party and not two.

The shit continues to pile up on Trump and the GOP daily and the rate will increase, if the GOP doesn't impeach Trump, the lifers in the FBI and DOJ are gonna fuck them so bad in november they'll have to grow new assholes. It's gonna look as bad as it possibly can for them during the election, lot's of people are gonna make sure of that.
 
Last edited:

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Been checking out a new hobby, FPV freestyle drone racing, a real rush! Helps to step away from Trump and the stink of shit from time to time.
 

Serious Weeds

Well-Known Member
Been checking out a new hobby, FPV freestyle drone racing, a real rush! Helps to step away from Trump and the stink of shit from time to time.
I Love drone racing. Now that we have in common. Check out the owl I have crashed it into shit so hard and it just keeps going. Also have the mavic pro platinum, but find the owl way more fun.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Mueller told Trump team he would not indict Trump

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-giuliani/mueller-told-trump-team-he-would-not-indict-trump-giuliani-told-cnn-idUSKCN1IH32G


Now let us hear those snowflake tears, now that it is coming out that they can not indict him like we have known all along.
He won't need to, the GOP will impeach him, when Trump is removed from office the serious fun will begin for him and the family, they can wait to charge them, no rush.

Worry about the fate of your country, not about getting at your perceived "enemies", it's not a game, but deadly serious business. If you think Donald is a good manager what do you base such an assessment on?

I'm glad you like drone racing, but supporting Trump at this point causes me and most open minded people to question your judgement or motives. Remember, Trump has no ideology to agree with, so it must be something more basic or should I say base. Busting employers works much better for controlling illegal immigration than harassing poor folks who just want a better life. It's also more just, because these "citizens" are betraying their country by hiring undocumented people without social security numbers or green cards and avoiding tax and workers compensation costs. Bust the cheats and thieves.
 
Last edited:

Serious Weeds

Well-Known Member
He won't need to, the GOP will impeach him, when Trump is removed from office the serious fun will begin for him and the family, they can wait to charge them, no rush.

Worry about the fate of your country, not about getting at your perceived "enemies", it's not a game, but deadly serious business. If you think Donald is a good manager what do you base such an assessment on?

I'm glad you like drone racing, but supporting Trump at this point causes me and most open minded people to question you judgement or motives. Remember, Trump has no ideology to agree with, so it must be something more basic or should I say base. Busting employers works much better for controlling illegal immigration than harassing poor folks who just want a better life. It's also more just, because these "citizens" are betraying their country by hiring undocumented people without social security numbers or green cards and avoiding tax and workers compensation costs. Bust the cheats and thieves.
Many of you assume that these illegals do not get government benefits. That is wrong. even illegal immigrants can get food stamps i have seen it many times first hand. Another thing that I have seen first hand is an illegal stabbing someone and then running and having no real way to track that individual down and bring them to justice. There are many assumptions that the left makes that are not true. I lived around almost only immigrants when i first came to this country and it did not take me long to figure out how many of the especially younger illegal ones acted. I was robbed more times then i could keep count of. it is a very horrible feeling to come home and realise you were robbed then to find out it was one of your neighbors makes it even worse. I have many more instances from first hand exprience. maybe you should trying living in a simiular situation and see what you think then.
 
Last edited:

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Many of you assume that these illegals do not get government benefits. That is wrong. even illegal immigrants can get food stamps i have seen it many times first hand. Another thing that I have seen first hand is an illegal stabbing someone and then running and having no real way to track that individual down and bring them to justice. There are many assumptions that the left makes that are not true. I lived around almost only immigrants when i first came to this country and it did not take me long to figure out how many of the especially younger ones acted. I was robbed more times then i could keep count of. it is a very horrible feeling to come home and realise you were robbed then to find out it was one of your neighbors makes it even worse. I have many more instances from first hand exprience. maybe you should trying living in a simiular situation and see what you think then.
I'm sorry that your past experiences have colored your perspective with the emotions of fear and hate (yer pissed at being ripped off). Donald is not gonna help ya to get yer stuff back. The following will help however to regain a sense of balance and a measure of forgiveness, for with forgiveness also comes an unburdening as we lose the baggage that is weighing us down and impeding our ability to drink fully from the cup of happiness. It's also one of the best treatments for depression known and is increasingly used for this purpose. It's a "wisdom practice".

Try this, don't just read about it, but do it for 8 weeks, it's a mental exercise that among other things builds out the parts of your brain that process emotion and control the perception of reality. Tons of science behind it, ya gotta do it, not read about it, happiness guaranteed and ya can smoke dope and do it too (cut back and don't practice while high).

A good place to start and lots of articles and free mindfulness courses and teaching podcasts a ton of resources this will keep you busy and steer you in the right direction, science based, buddhist roots.
University of Wisconsin
http://www.fammed.wisc.edu/mindfulness/research/
See this on the page for some podcasts
For a complete list of mindfulness audio and video files see our Mindfulness Digital Library
 
Last edited:

Serious Weeds

Well-Known Member
I'm sorry that your past experiences have colored your perspective with the emotions of fear and hate (yer pissed at being ripped off). Donald is not gonna help ya to get yer stuff back. The following will help however to regain a sense of balance and a measure of forgiveness, for with forgiveness also comes an unburdening as we lose the baggage that is weighing us down and impeding our ability to drink fully from the cup of happiness.

Try this, don't just read about it, but do it for 8 weeks, it's a mental exercise that among other things builds out the parts of your brain that process emotion and control the perception of reality. Tons of science behind it, ya gotta do it, not read about it, happiness guaranteed and ya can smoke dope and do it too (cut back and don't practice while high).

A good place to start and lots of articles and free mindfulness courses and teaching podcasts a ton of resources this will keep you busy and steer you in the right direction, science based, buddhist roots.
University of Wisconsin
http://www.fammed.wisc.edu/mindfulness/research/
See this on the page for some podcasts
For a complete list of mindfulness audio and video files see our Mindfulness Digital Library
I have no problem with immigrants after all i am one. I have a problem with people who dont follow common sense laws. There is a proper way to get into this country it does take a while but there is a process. following that process makes sure the scum does not slip through the cracks.
 
Top