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BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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Gu~ said:
Well that is certainly disappointing to hear, and unacceptable.

These beans were produced with STS so I am unsure as to where the male chromosomes came from. But your results are valid, you are a good grower and know what you are doing. You’ve provided some killer shots of other GPS. No reason for anyone to doubt your findings.

The guarntee does stand, I am more than willing to give you your money back as I cannot replace your lost time.

~

On the Something About Genetcs: Good guy, knowledgeable, and honest. Those are a few characteristics I look for in dealings. But since our meeting, he sold to LOGIC and undercut me twice. This last time at $50 for 10 seeds was the last straw.

I’ll give you enough rope to hang yourself, but that’s about it.
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This is why GreenPointSeeds is my 1st pick
If there was a little more breeder options I’d never shop anywhere else.
 
genuity

genuity

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Heisengrow said:
I wanna throw this out there cause some may be interested.im doing a cobs vs cmh thread on another forum.all these are the same exact clones in rdwc same buckets.they have been in this setup since the beginning.
I have 750 watts of cobs and 630 watts of cmh with the cobs dimmed down to 700 watts.
Here is a side by side comparison of the them.
HPS wasnt even close so I didn't even include it.the cobs are beating everything in my grow room right now

CMH on left cobs on right
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CMH
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Cobs
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And 2000 watts of HP'S that's getting owned by the cmh and the cobs.

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All these plants are 3 weeks old today
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I can tell 2 vert Sun systems 315lec (the best 315) would smash that light..
Looks good tho.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Heisengrow said:
I wanna throw this out there cause some may be interested.im doing a cobs vs cmh thread on another forum.all these are the same exact clones in rdwc same buckets.they have been in this setup since the beginning.
I have 750 watts of cobs and 630 watts of cmh with the cobs dimmed down to 700 watts.
Here is a side by side comparison of the them.
HPS wasnt even close so I didn't even include it.the cobs are beating everything in my grow room right now

CMH on left cobs on right
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CMH
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Cobs
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And 2000 watts of HP'S that's getting owned by the cmh and the cobs.

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All these plants are 3 weeks old today
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Your CMH and HPS plants have better color than the COBS.
 
AmericanGrower508

AmericanGrower508

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Gu~ said:
Well that is certainly disappointing to hear, and unacceptable.

These beans were produced with STS so I am unsure as to where the male chromosomes came from. But your results are valid, you are a good grower and know what you are doing. You’ve provided some killer shots of other GPS. No reason for anyone to doubt your findings.

The guarntee does stand, I am more than willing to give you your money back as I cannot replace your lost time.

~

On the Something About Genetcs: Good guy, knowledgeable, and honest. Those are a few characteristics I look for in dealings. But since our meeting, he sold to LOGIC and undercut me twice. This last time at $50 for 10 seeds was the last straw.

I’ll give you enough rope to hang yourself, but that’s about it.
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The problem is that most don't understand fem seeds.
It's not the chromosomes that produce the Strong male tendency females (which is what they are) if no male was used.
It's because the female donor has to be 100% tested to never ever produce any hermi traits. The hermi traits are caused by hormones. Most notably it's the Ethylene hormone, If donor plant has high level she will pass it on to offspring making some or even all of them male looking females.
 
AmericanGrower508

AmericanGrower508

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Heisengrow said:
I wanna throw this out there cause some may be interested.im doing a cobs vs cmh thread on another forum.all these are the same exact clones in rdwc same buckets.they have been in this setup since the beginning.
I have 750 watts of cobs and 630 watts of cmh with the cobs dimmed down to 700 watts.
Here is a side by side comparison of the them.
HPS wasnt even close so I didn't even include it.the cobs are beating everything in my grow room right now

CMH on left cobs on right
View attachment 4134611

CMH
View attachment 4134613


Cobs
View attachment 4134614
And 2000 watts of HP'S that's getting owned by the cmh and the cobs.

View attachment 4134615

All these plants are 3 weeks old today
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Are they all the same plant? If not test is really irrelevant. As all plants grow differently.
 
Little Dog

Little Dog

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I'm not educated on the making of S1's like some of you guys. So I'm curious, and also a little worried. I purchased three Wedding Cake crossed with Gelato, Do Si Dos, and Black Congo from SAG. Seemed like a good guy. I had missed out on the Wedding Cake with Gu. So I jumped on these instead. (If the deal is just to good to pass up. You might want to rethink it. This was almost to good.) Also purchased Wedding Cake S1. I'm wondering if these crosses will definitely, possibly, or will not even be related to the Wedding Cake S1. (Different batch maybe?) I'd definitely sacrifice the S1, hate to throw'em all away though.

I bought other stuff too. Wedding Cake was more spur of the moment. Not my first choices. But I took a chance on'em. You win some, you lose some. We'll see.
Mr.Estrain said:
I'll bet the only problems will be with the cake s1.
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Pitu

Pitu

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Little Dog said:
I'm not educated on the making of S1's like some of you guys. So I'm curious, and also a little worried. I purchased three Wedding Cake crossed with Gelato, Do Si Dos, and Black Congo from SAG. Seemed like a good guy. I had missed out on the Wedding Cake with Gu. So I jumped on these instead. (If the deal is just to good to pass up. You might want to rethink it. This was almost to good.) Also purchased Wedding Cake S1. I'm wondering if these crosses will definitely, possibly, or will not even be related to the Wedding Cake S1. (Different batch maybe?) I'd definitely sacrifice the S1, hate to throw'em all away though.
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I'm guessing the same there bro the only thing I don't know if @Gu or that SAG guy made them lol...
I don' have the cake s1 though but do have the glue gelato and banana OG.
Should be cautious and keep a close eye on them then you can always decide of removing them right?
 
Mr.Estrain

Mr.Estrain

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There's going to be fire in the wedding cake, just gotta get lucky with a solid chick.

Tbh, I'd expect similar results in the crosses considering it was the same pollen donor.

The s1 by sjg of wedding cake and its crosses had similar issues if I recall correctly.

I've seen the photos on his page, the crosses and the s1's and they look fire. Question is, how many seeds were popped to find stable girls.

I think the best thing is to respectfully inquire with sag as to how his seed popping experiences went........There's been a cpl reports of full on males in your wedding cakes s1. Is this the only issue with the cake s1 or is it in the crosses? What about the other s1's stability?

Anything with gsc in it's genes is gonna be risky no matter if it fem or reg from my understanding
 
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nc208

nc208

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How viable would these males be? If I don't get a chick out of the wedding cake it will suck but will the males be good for pollen chucking?
 
Little Dog

Little Dog

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Mr.Estrain said:
There's going to be fire in the wedding cake, just gotta get lucky with a solid chick.

Tbh, I'd expect similar results in the crosses considering it was the same pollen donor.

The s1 by sjg of wedding cake and its crosses had similar issues if I recall correctly.

I've seen the photos on his page, the crosses and the s1's and they look fire. Question is, how many seeds were popped to find stable girls.

I think the best thing is to respectfully inquire with sag as to how his seed popping experiences went........There's been a cpl reports of full on males in your wedding cakes s1. Is this the only issue with the cake s1 or is it in the crosses? What about the other s1's stability?

Anything with gsc in it's genes is gonna be risky no matter if it fem or reg from my understanding
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I'm gonna run'em to see. I'll be watching closely for sure. I'd feel great if I could find a female that stayed true. I guess we all would. Yep! Lol
 
blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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Mr.Estrain said:
There's going to be fire in the wedding cake, just gotta get lucky with a solid chick.

Tbh, I'd expect similar results in the crosses considering it was the same pollen donor.

The s1 by sjg of wedding cake and its crosses had similar issues if I recall correctly.

I've seen the photos on his page, the crosses and the s1 and they look fire. Question is, how many seeds were popped to find stable girls.

I think the best thing is to respectfully inquire with sag as to how his seed popping experiences went........There's been a cpl reports of full on males in your wedding cakes s1. Is this the only issue with the cake s1 or is it in the crosses? What about the other s1's stability?

Anything with gsc in it's genes is gonna be risky no matter if it fem or reg from my understanding
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i agree but if you "self" a "female" and 3/3 produces straight up cock.. like stands up to piss, dont trust around your daughter, dick.. gotta question policy and procedures. Unstable genetics leading to a herm.. well that's the cost of admission, gotta roll with the punches.. I dont think 3/3 S1s that throw more balls than the bowling alley can be genetic except to say genetic from cross contamination. Nuts have to be involved to create the male.. not just bananas in the later weeks. A male that herms into female shouldn't be used for breeding imo.


nc208 said:
How viable would these males be? If I don't get a chick out of the wedding cake it will suck but will the males be good for pollen chucking?
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The real question is.. what the hell is everything?? He had a book-full of the most sought after genetics and when an "S1" produces males you gotta ask if anything is what it is labeled/sold as.
 
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