Is Michelle Wolf a mean cunt, or a very funny person?

Was Wolf too mean spirited ?

  • Yes, she was aweful

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • Nope, I think she hit the nail on the head

    Votes: 19 76.0%

  • Total voters
    25

Fogdog

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I think the latter.


You tell me
She was direct, to the point and I loved every minute.

I had read elsewhere that people were offended she used the word pussy in front of such an august audience.

LOL She was clever and biting in her humor and in the way she used that word. Trump's way of saying pussy was crass. Some people vote for funny and biting use of words, others vote for crass. The difference explains division in this country fairly well.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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there's a phrase..."respect the office"......i've always thought that was bullshit. an office is an empty room. most of the time, we'd be better off with the empty room.
holding a title doesn't earn you any respect. doing your job to the best of your ability gets you respect. learning and improving gets you respect. trying to be a good person and do the right thing with no hope of reward gets you respect.
needless to say, i have very little respect for anyone in politics, no matter what office they hold.
 

Fogdog

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there's a phrase..."respect the office"......i've always thought that was bullshit. an office is an empty room. most of the time, we'd be better off with the empty room.
holding a title doesn't earn you any respect. doing your job to the best of your ability gets you respect. learning and improving gets you respect. trying to be a good person and do the right thing with no hope of reward gets you respect.
needless to say, i have very little respect for anyone in politics, no matter what office they hold.
Respect isn't something that is simply given.

Did you ever see Obama behave indecorously or say indecent things even to indecent people? Trump set the bar low and Wolf easily cleared that bar.
 

Fogdog

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Emily Nussbaum, The New Yorker’s Pulitzer-winning TV critic, took the contrarian view on Wolf’s routine.

“The more I think about it, the more impressed I am that Michelle Wolf did such a harsh act WITHOUT insulting any woman’s looks,” Nussbaum said on Twitter. “She aimed straight at the white female enforcers & never once suggested that anyone was a bimbo or a dog ― like the man they work for surely would have,”
 

Huckster79

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there's a phrase..."respect the office"......i've always thought that was bullshit. an office is an empty room. most of the time, we'd be better off with the empty room.
holding a title doesn't earn you any respect. doing your job to the best of your ability gets you respect. learning and improving gets you respect. trying to be a good person and do the right thing with no hope of reward gets you respect.
needless to say, i have very little respect for anyone in politics, no matter what office they hold.
They seen no problem accusing Obama of not being a Citizen for Christs fucking sake! Now they want to talk respect? Falling on deaf ears here, the hypocritical sobs...
 

Huckster79

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All these folks freaking out about this need to realize whether it was decent or not it was the orange fucking turd that grabbed america by her pussy and stole her virginity to this level of indecency in our politic and discourse not Ms Wolf!!!!

The POTUS has made fun of handicap reporter, made viscous, personal, biting and vulgar names up for anyone who crossed him! This is not to mention the lies he has told and enuendo he has implied against anyone not 100% loyal...

And the outrage is at Ms Wolf? As if this type of thing from Spanky is just background noise and not much ado... this is a twisted world.

Oh and real men who where President befor Spanky had the balls to show up, laugh at jokes about them and even make self deprocating remarks for the sake of a laugh... because they weren't insecure excuses for a human pieces of shit.

Heaven help our Republic!
 

zeddd

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This was a great speech. imo comedy was a secondary emphasis and a vehicle for her message. Her intelligence and iconoclasm is extraordinary, any vulgarity was a parody of the current state of political debate started by trump and supported by white female enablers. Great point well made
 

Bear420

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What gets me is, I've seen 3 other Presidents get dogged on really bad too, But the difference is they laughed about it.

Now is the moral of the story this. " The Truth Hurts " maybe If it weren't those would not of been do butt hurt about that great Roast..... LOVED IT !!!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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usually, individuals who have reached the point in their lives where a presidential run is a serious consideration, have achieved a certain level of self confidence and poise. they've learned to play the game, and think they have a chance to win a few hands.
trump has never achieved any poise, and any self confidence he has is more than cancelled out by the huge doubts and inferiority issues that scream from his behavior. he may be 71 physically...but not mentally....reverse it and you're closer to the truth
 

schuylaar

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All these folks freaking out about this need to realize whether it was decent or not it was the orange fucking turd that grabbed america by her pussy and stole her virginity to this level of indecency in our politic and discourse not Ms Wolf!!!!

The POTUS has made fun of handicap reporter, made viscous, personal, biting and vulgar names up for anyone who crossed him! This is not to mention the lies he has told and enuendo he has implied against anyone not 100% loyal...

And the outrage is at Ms Wolf? As if this type of thing from Spanky is just background noise and not much ado... this is a twisted world.

Oh and real men who where President befor Spanky had the balls to show up, laugh at jokes about them and even make self deprocating remarks for the sake of a laugh... because they weren't insecure excuses for a human pieces of shit.

Heaven help our Republic!
But Trump didn’t mean any of it- they’re all just JOKES.
 

Andrewk420

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usually, individuals who have reached the point in their lives where a presidential run is a serious consideration, have achieved a certain level of self confidence and poise. they've learned to play the game, and think they have a chance to win a few hands.
trump has never achieved any poise, and any self confidence he has is more than cancelled out by the huge doubts and inferiority issues that scream from his behavior. he may be 71 physically...but not mentally....reverse it and you're closer to the truth
I think that's why he connects with the people he does. He is a microcosm of a bigger problem. Especially when it comes to men, he's a beacon for "the silent majority" or whatever bullshit was going around. Men in general have a lot of Trump qualities. Heaps of false bravado, but very little actual bravado. Trump, like a lot of people, seems to have lived his whole life too scared to take the deep dark look inside that it takes to have actual confidence. Confidence is being able to handle anything that's thrown at you about yourself, because you're already more familiar with your flaws or whatever than anyone judging you could ever be.

It's an indictment on masculinity in this country especially. Guy who talks like "I just grab em by the pussy" is never the traditional "man's man" in the room. But there's entire generations of (now) men who are that way though. I live in suburban/subrural MO, I'm an almost 30 year old white guy, basically heart of Trump country. The "alt right" is made up of my direct peers in a lot of ways. And I see it with people I was close with as kids. It makes perfect sense when I see it that closely, they have the same mentality as Trump. Lack of maturity, self awareness, and real confidence combined with lots of false bravado.
 

Fogdog

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I think that's why he connects with the people he does. He is a microcosm of a bigger problem. Especially when it comes to men, he's a beacon for "the silent majority" or whatever bullshit was going around. Men in general have a lot of Trump qualities. Heaps of false bravado, but very little actual bravado. Trump, like a lot of people, seems to have lived his whole life too scared to take the deep dark look inside that it takes to have actual confidence. Confidence is being able to handle anything that's thrown at you about yourself, because you're already more familiar with your flaws or whatever than anyone judging you could ever be.

It's an indictment on masculinity in this country especially. Guy who talks like "I just grab em by the pussy" is never the traditional "man's man" in the room. But there's entire generations of (now) men who are that way though. I live in suburban/subrural MO, I'm an almost 30 year old white guy, basically heart of Trump country. The "alt right" is made up of my direct peers in a lot of ways. And I see it with people I was close with as kids. It makes perfect sense when I see it that closely, they have the same mentality as Trump. Lack of maturity, self awareness, and real confidence combined with lots of false bravado.
alt.right talks tough until reality comes for a visit
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the Crying Nazi who cried about facing charges after being caught on video in Charlottesville riots.

The article linked below refers to the demographic of white, mostly men but a lot of white women in that group as "culturally anxious white male voters". "Culturally anxious" fits your description pretty well.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/28/opinions/trump-base-economy-myth-opinion-zelizer/index.html

Still, there are a whole lot of them and their votes aren't going to go away any time soon. They don't really care about anything other than their "cultural anxieties". Put more bluntly they care about maintaining their entitled white status. People who oppose that bloc are going to have to work hard to come together and displace them.
 
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