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0321Marine

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/cold-mokes-frost-heave.959456/

Heres a link to my journal..

Its my first run with it .

I grew it outdoors just to see if it looked good and it started budding on me before i took cuts .

But it looked good so i took some monstercrop clones.

So far she is a vigorous grower great plant so far .

Has very greasy stems and a very powerful smell that i cant really describe (i hate smell descriptions lol)

But it smells great, cheesey and citrus cleaner?
On the sweetish side mabey some sour?

Im in week 2 now so ill know here soon :)
Awesome stuff, thank you brother!
 

0321Marine

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Im personally looking into mini dehumidifier for a new drying set up
Let me know how it goes?

Ive been thinking with this harvest Im going to try some cool temp curing, and having a dehuemy I can easily move back and forth from grow room to curing area would be a nice touch. First harvest wont be too large from my single plant tent, but the summer harvests will allow me to grow 4-6 at once indoor and Ill need a dehumidifier for those babies to cure properly.

BTW, Im loving that I can learn from your Am. Haze grow journal.. it will give me all the info I need in a few months, I am sure.
 

Cold$moke

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So far the amnesia haze is anything but haze lol

I grew a buddah haze once and it was a 15-18 week in flower plant (no more pure hazes for me lol) ran it a few times clasic sativa .

This amnesia behaves more like a hybrid besides being quick to grow i havent noticed many sativa traits

Sorry im not going into more detail about what and how im feeding but i figure no one wants to see the boring stuff lol
 

0321Marine

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Nah, feeding and all that is boring.. you're right. And that is precisely what I have heard of the AH. It supposedly can be a 45 dayer in some instances..? Which is silly fast if you ask me. You're currently on about week 2F, am I right?
 

Lucky Luke

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Andatech Ionmax ION681 Dehumidifier is what I use in a 4 x 4 tent. Just set it on auto and leave switched on the whole grow. I think it was about $150 on ebay.
 

randydj

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So you're saying that flowering temps with a low of 80F and an RH of 35% is off for later? What should it be, if you dont mind me asking? I did do some research in the VPD area, but had thought I was being pushed in the right direction with the plans I had in place (this was based off of research and what others have said worked well for them)? And are you also saying the even though my tent is small (actual 2.5 feet x 2.5 feet inside), my 600w LED is not enough?

I do have plans for further dehumidification, but not until flowering.. as for Veg. I had heard that the 50-60% at a high was good? But I also know that my Co2 output will not be optimal for a few weeks, so that is on the slightly lower end right now at 600-800ppm. It should be closer to 1000-1500ppm once I get to flower stages, based on my math.

Now, I can vent out.. I just was under the impression that I would see more benefits if I can keep it sealed and under control.? I could easily vent out the bottom, still drawing the Co2 through the canopy (later), using a 100cfm fan but turned down a tad. This would only pull the heat down, so temps should stay fairly the same. But I really am not sure? I plan on increasing my dehumidifier packs to industry sizes if necessary, and may even resort to a plug in dehumidifier if needed. As for now, the 900grams or so of silica beads have brought RH down from 99% with lights off and 70-75% lights on to their current state of 50-60%RH. And the nice part with those is I can swap packs out, and recharge them in a few hours in the oven.

I have 2 goals here: Grow an amazing plant, and keep my electricity costs as low as possible.
Ok so that is only 6.25 sq. ft. not 9 so the light is a little bit closer for the CO2 but you still need to get temps up to 90°F+. I have CO2 setup but stopped running it as not worth the time money and trouble. I just did not increase the yield so as you could notice because there are so many variables involved in the grow. Keeping VPD in the target range made the biggest single improvement to my growing.

My space is 4x6=24 SQ. FT. when I first start plants I struggle even with a humidifier to get into range. After the leaves get going it is much easier - then I am defoliating and running my 8" hyper fan at full speed trying to keep it down under 70%. Then late into flower I have a 60 QT dehumidifier running in the room where the space is drawing air to keep it below 50% it gets as high as 65% with 70% the danger zone for bud rot!

This VPD chart's gold zone is where you want to be during Veg for maximum growth. Then the white zone to the right works for late flower staying out of the danger zone <65°F at 70% humidity will rot your buds almost for sure. This is why a lot of growers error on the side of dry. Like I said it is a balancing act.

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This is my current grow. Just gave them the second training prune to do a manifold - 8 main colas per plant. 4 Heavyweight Monster Profits and 2 Zambeza Blue Brilliants. One of the BB had a real problem getting started so she will not be trained just allowed to grow naturally.

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Tkboy

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Ok so my current grow isn’t a true Scrog although I have got to grips with using a screen a bit now. In the future I’d like get into a better rhythm so I’m looking for some advice.. Assuming I’m growing an 8 week strain, how many plants would I need to fill a 3x3 screen and be able to flip at 8 weeks veg time? I know it’s strain dependant but on average? I’m thinking about trying to start keeping my plant numbers down a bit.. I have read through this whole thread and maybe it’s been asked before but I can’t remember this query specially..

I’m running dtw over Rockwool, is this a suitable setup for Scrogging? I’ve seen that DWC buckets seem to be used a lot..
 

randydj

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Ok so my current grow isn’t a true Scrog although I have got to grips with using a screen a bit now. In the future I’d like get into a better rhythm so I’m looking for some advice.. Assuming I’m growing an 8 week strain, how many plants would I need to fill a 3x3 screen and be able to flip at 8 weeks veg time? I know it’s strain dependant but on average? I’m thinking about trying to start keeping my plant numbers down a bit.. I have read through this whole thread and maybe it’s been asked before but I can’t remember this query specially..

I’m running dtw over Rockwool, is this a suitable setup for Scrogging? I’ve seen that DWC buckets seem to be used a lot..
Tk: How many plants is like asking how long is a rope! There are just too many other variables. Just go for it and learn about your own system. I filled absolutely to the maximum a 3x3x5 foot tent with 1 Moby Dick CBD (not doing scrog) in DWC but I would start at least 2 plants just in case one didn't make it.
 

Lucky Luke

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Ok so my current grow isn’t a true Scrog although I have got to grips with using a screen a bit now. In the future I’d like get into a better rhythm so I’m looking for some advice.. Assuming I’m growing an 8 week strain, how many plants would I need to fill a 3x3 screen and be able to flip at 8 weeks veg time? I know it’s strain dependant but on average? I’m thinking about trying to start keeping my plant numbers down a bit.. I have read through this whole thread and maybe it’s been asked before but I can’t remember this query specially..

I’m running dtw over Rockwool, is this a suitable setup for Scrogging? I’ve seen that DWC buckets seem to be used a lot..
As Randy said it depends on to many variables. Id go 5 for the first run and if they fill the screen before the 8 week marker then drop done to 4, see where they get you and drop down again if you can. Use clones for more consistent results.
 

NrthrnMichigan

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Current use of the net. Here are pics from last 3 weeks; From left to right, Wedding Cake from cut, Black Russian from free seed about 5 years ago and Midnight Kush from cut. 12/12 started 3/10
 

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