The Daily Nugg,

Favorite time to smoke

  • Morning

    Votes: 69 24.0%
  • Afternoon

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • Nighttime

    Votes: 68 23.7%
  • Naked while yelling at strangers

    Votes: 124 43.2%

  • Total voters
    287

Chunky Stool

Well-Known Member
I didnt think you really meant you hate them. But no one tends to cut their wrists just for attention. There is an underlying cause.

It is very hard to understand why and how some people are like his but it is very real.

It has to do with how an individual perceives their own brain chemicals. Cutting for attention is a bipolar 1 symptoms believe.

Bi polar 2 things start to get worse even.

Please someone in the know correct me if I am wrong.
Hell I didn't even know there are different types of bipolar... :dunce:
 

Indacouch

Well-Known Member
I didnt think you really meant you hate them. But no one tends to cut their wrists just for attention. There is an underlying cause.

It is very hard to understand why and how some people are like his but it is very real.

It has to do with how an individual perceives their own brain chemicals. Cutting for attention is a bipolar 1 symptoms believe.

Bi polar 2 things start to get worse even.

Please someone in the know correct me if I am wrong.
Were referring to two different kinds of people here. Cutters usually do it for the visual. The act of doing it and the feeling they get from doing it. I'm talking about people who do slightly more than a scratch in key spots for attention. I'm not saying your wrong at all. I'm just saying the attention seekers I'm talking about need a bitch slap and a job.
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
I didnt think you really meant you hate them. But no one tends to cut their wrists just for attention. There is an underlying cause.

It is very hard to understand why and how some people are like his but it is very real.

It has to do with how an individual perceives their own brain chemicals. Cutting for attention is a bipolar 1 symptoms believe.

Bi polar 2 things start to get worse even.

Please someone in the know correct me if I am wrong.
Bipolar 2 has hypomania, it varies from Bipolar 1 by lacking the traditional manic phase. However because the cyclic changes are not as severe and sometimes they retain insight and judgment in the hypomanic state they are under treated or treated incorrectly (usually for endogenous depression).

Cutting and other forms of self-abuse in Bipolar disorder often occur during the state where the patient is experiencing mixed symptoms of depression and mania and is frequently used for stress relief. I believe you see more self injury with Bipolar 1. That is really nit picking because it's a miserable illness to be subjected to in either form.

Were referring to two different kinds of people here. Cutters usually do it for the visual. The act of doing it and the feeling they get from doing it. I'm talking about people who do slightly more than a scratch in key spots for attention. I'm not saying your wrong at all. I'm just saying the attention seekers I'm talking about need a bitch slap and a job.
Stoned farmer comes to mind.
Personality disorders especially histrionic and borderline are the ones you are talking about. There's no really effective treatment yet, sadly. Their attention seeking can end with their own demise and it is very hard to feel sympathy for them. It would be terrible to have any form of mental illness. We do not know enough and we have seemingly stopped investing in the science.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
Bipolar 2 has hypomania, it varies from Bipolar 1 by lacking the traditional manic phase. However because the cyclic changes are not as severe and sometimes they retain insight and judgment in the hypomanic state they are under treated or treated incorrectly (usually for endogenous depression).

Cutting and other forms of self-abuse in Bipolar disorder often occur during the state where the patient is experiencing mixed symptoms of depression and mania and is frequently used for stress relief. I believe you see more self injury with Bipolar 1. That is really nit picking because it's a miserable illness to be subjected to in either form.



Personality disorders especially histrionic and borderline are the ones you are talking about. There's no really effective treatment yet, sadly. Their attention seeking can end with their own demise and it is very hard to feel sympathy for them. It would be terrible to have any form of mental illness. We do not know enough and we have seemingly stopped investing in the science.
Hell yeah it's hard to feel sympathy, those people are fucking annoying. Add anger issues and they become impossible to deal with.
 

MichiganMedGrower

Well-Known Member
Bipolar 2 has hypomania, it varies from Bipolar 1 by lacking the traditional manic phase. However because the cyclic changes are not as severe and sometimes they retain insight and judgment in the hypomanic state they are under treated or treated incorrectly (usually for endogenous depression).

Cutting and other forms of self-abuse in Bipolar disorder often occur during the state where the patient is experiencing mixed symptoms of depression and mania and is frequently used for stress relief. I believe you see more self injury with Bipolar 1. That is really nit picking because it's a miserable illness to be subjected to in either form.



Personality disorders especially histrionic and borderline are the ones you are talking about. There's no really effective treatment yet, sadly. Their attention seeking can end with their own demise and it is very hard to feel sympathy for them. It would be terrible to have any form of mental illness. We do not know enough and we have seemingly stopped investing in the science.

Thank you
 

Indacouch

Well-Known Member
Bipolar 2 has hypomania, it varies from Bipolar 1 by lacking the traditional manic phase. However because the cyclic changes are not as severe and sometimes they retain insight and judgment in the hypomanic state they are under treated or treated incorrectly (usually for endogenous depression).

Cutting and other forms of self-abuse in Bipolar disorder often occur during the state where the patient is experiencing mixed symptoms of depression and mania and is frequently used for stress relief. I believe you see more self injury with Bipolar 1. That is really nit picking because it's a miserable illness to be subjected to in either form.



Personality disorders especially histrionic and borderline are the ones you are talking about. There's no really effective treatment yet, sadly. Their attention seeking can end with their own demise and it is very hard to feel sympathy for them. It would be terrible to have any form of mental illness. We do not know enough and we have seemingly stopped investing in the science.
It's a tough subject indeed.... It's hard to feel sorry for someone who only displays these behaviors when they're drunk or hit a tough spot in life. When it comes to patience and sympathy for the mentally ill. I feel that I most definitely am. I just feel like some people choose to act that way. The ones who are really ill IMO don't make those choices for attention. I totally agree with the fact society has given up. I see seriously sick homeless people with obvious mental illness ...left to fend for themselves. There is a guest home out near my house in the country. The people are allowed to walk around if their behavior is good. I've met some funny characters and have learned a lot about aliens Annie.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
Yup it's like here let me how you how to cut correctly. My favorite was them cutting themselves, showing up for sutures and then shrieking over not enough local :roll:
Those people spend so much time blaming everything besides themselves for all their problems. Constant circles, best to walk away before you get fustrated and say something that's makes the situation worse. That's what I got from my experiences.
 

InigoMontoya

Well-Known Member
Everyone gets sad once in a while but real depression is VERY different.
It's hard to explain to people who have never experienced it.
Very well said, the difference between situational and chronic depression is no joke, my sister has severe chronic depression, whenever she comes to CO I go out of my way to get some killer stuff but sadly she lives in a completely illegal state so she won't take it home with her. She wrote an essay kind of thing on it last year and I wish I could find a copy to post on here. A really in depth look through the eyes of someone actually going through it. @Indacouch i completely agree, with the attention cutters it seems they're also all too happy to fill you in on every supposed horrible detail of their life before you're five minutes into your first ever conversation with them.
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
Very well said, the difference between situational and chronic depression is no joke, my sister has severe chronic depression, whenever she comes to CO I go out of my way to get some killer stuff but sadly she lives in a completely illegal state so she won't take it home with her. She wrote an essay kind of thing on it last year and I wish I could find a copy to post on here. A really in depth look through the eyes of someone actually going through it. @Indacouch i completely agree, with the attention cutters it seems they're also all too happy to fill you in on every supposed horrible detail of their life before you're five minutes into your first ever conversation with them.

I feel like some people are just naturally more negative then others and impatient as fuck. If you're not happy well, it is what it is, just gotta accept it and take steps towards changing the way you feel. Nobody's happy all the time, Life's short, no reason to kill yourself. Just gotta stfu and gut it out. Death is unavoidable don't be a drama queen and meet it halfway.




I'd be a horrible therapist, losing patients left and right.
 
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