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Rob Roy

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No. Yes, markets need to be managed. For example, a business should not be able to deny it's services to certain groups. If you don't like it you are free to fuck off.
I think you may have just said two opposing things at once there.

I asked if you were against voluntary exchanges where two willing parties make an exchange, and you answered no.

Then you advocated for exchanges where all of the participants may not be willing and suggested it was okay to use force for an external party to "manage" an exchange between other people.

Yes, I am free to fuck off, but that doesn't explain your expressing two opposing views at once.

I'm curious how far your meddling goes... Would you use force to make two of your neighbors interact if one or both had no interest in doing so ?
 

Unclebaldrick

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I think you may have just said two opposing things at once there.

I asked if you were against voluntary exchanges where two willing parties make an exchange, and you answered no.

Then you advocated for exchanges where all of the participants may not be willing and suggested it was okay to use force for an external party to "manage" an exchange between other people.

Yes, I am free to fuck off, but that doesn't explain your expressing two opposing views at once.

I'm curious how far your meddling goes... Would you use force to make two of your neighbors interact if one or both had no interest in doing so ?
Life is full of contradictions. Society has a right to form rules. You are a slave. Get used to it.
 

ttystikk

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You hate baseball ? Commie. Probably throw like a girl too.

I propose a free market. Not the crony one you try to assign my position to. The one where Walmart wouldn't be subsidized and enabled by government and any of its employees could start a competing business tomorrow without third party interventions etc.
Baseball is a statutorily protected Monopoly. Fuck baseball.

And here you are arguing free markets using baseball as an example.

No one needs to call you stupid, fella- you're doing a bang up job all by yourself!
 

Rob Roy

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Baseball is a statutorily protected Monopoly. Fuck baseball.

And here you are arguing free markets using baseball as an example.

No one needs to call you stupid, fella- you're doing a bang up job all by yourself!

Baseball is a game. Major league baseball is a business. You are doing a bang up job of conflating the two.

I used a mutual and peaceful trade as an example of what a free market transaction might look like. You still throw like a girl.
 

schuylaar

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People in unions voted against them. The Reagan Democrat and the base of conservative voters were construction workers and automobile industry workers who had it good and wanted to keep it that way for themselves. Most of the Trump voters fit this profile too.

London is right in that right to work states are nearly impossible to unionize. Unless Sanders has a plan for that, he can talk about unions all he likes, he's going nowhere on this issue.
what did obama do to unionize right to work states? what color is he?

no need to answer.
 

ttystikk

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Baseball is a game. Major league baseball is a business. You are doing a bang up job of conflating the two.

I used a mutual and peaceful trade as an example of what a free market transaction might look like. You still throw like a girl.
I their like someone with a bad shoulder.

You still have an impressive ability to ignore reality completely.
 

Rob Roy

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I their like someone with a bad shoulder.

You still have an impressive ability to ignore reality completely.

If you define reality as that which occurs on a regular and routine basis, you have defined what many would say is "normal" . Then if you examine what has become normal human behavior, you would realize it isn't based in reality, since it relies on rationalizations, contradictions etc. and often features systemic human actions and processes which rely on holding two opposing beliefs at once.

In other words, just because something really occurs a certain way, and by that reoccurrence those actions and beliefs become normal, it doesn't mean it is what is really happening or should happen.

In reality though, you still throw like a girl.
 

Fogdog

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what did obama do to unionize right to work states? what color is he?

no need to answer.
I know you can't understand this but Obama as president didn't have the power to write laws. He did work with Congress to get right to work laws removed but Congress balked.

Maybe you should take a remedial civics class. I don't know why you needed to ask.

Obama is a black man. Does my saying that get you hot?
 
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