How the wealthy constantly screw the poor

UncleBuck

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Well buck, if you weren't trying to be disingenuous, or weren't completely clueless of campaign finance laws, you would have worded that differently. Bernie didn't "accept" any money from any super PAC. In fact no candidate did. It is illegal for super PACs to give any direct donations to political campaigns. Most candidates (including Hillary) endorse super PACs that work on their behalf, but Bernie did not.

So yeah, there were a couple super PACs that supported sanders (which he did not endorse), and sent out some mailers and whatnot on his behalf, but he did not "accept" anything from them.

You try so desperately to smear the man. It's pretty funny.
oh, OK. superpacs and big money are good as long as they are for bernie.
 

BRANDON77

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Keeping this strictly monetary and not into a political debate...corporations donate to both sides of the aisle.

Why would anyone in the top 1% ($500k+ individual...not a corporation) want to give their money away to someone making less? seems like they win at the game of capitalism....so now give it away?
 

Fogdog

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No apology necessary, but thanks.

Let me ask you a question:

If everyone here that identifies as "liberal" were to create a list of the 15 most important issues that you want a candidate for potus to champion (1 being most important to you, and 15 being least important) I'd be willing to bet that almost all of the lists would be nearly identical. What would differ is where we arrange those issues on our list. Does that matter to you? Should it matter?
Oh hell,

The list of what's important is probably universal. Priority rankings would differ depending on world view and individual experience. My brother is a die hard conservative, yet when we talk about what's important and what we want for this country and the people in it, we agree. He even cited a movie about how Obama will take over the country in 2016 and suggested I watch it (this, in 2012). Opinion polls say similar. Most want everybody to have access to good healthcare, social safety nets for people in need, good public education people, young and old. Right and left, voters agree on what we want for this country. Yet who we vote for varies widely. I don't understand this. I think we agree on the problems but don't agree on solutions. What matters to me is the solutions for problems related to issues of the day.
 

Fogdog

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Keeping this strictly monetary and not into a political debate...corporations donate to both sides of the aisle.

Why would anyone in the top 1% ($500k+ individual...not a corporation) want to give their money away to someone making less? seems like they win at the game of capitalism....so now give it away?
Why would anyone want to have most of the wealth in this country concentrated more and more in 1%?

The wealthy aren't interested in capitalism either.
 

st0wandgrow

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oh, OK. superpacs and big money are good as long as they are for bernie.
Tell me what he could do about it? If a completely unaffiliated third party (that he never endorsed) runs a positive add about him, should he shut down the power grid so that nobody can see the add?

How much did Hillary "accept" in super PAC money? :lol:

You just can't bring yourself to admit that your horse (whom you promised to leave the forum forever if she didn't win) lost to a talking carrot, so you blame Bernie, you blame the EC, you blame Comey, you blame Russia, you blame sexism, you blame racism, etc, etc, etc.

When will you allow your chaffed asshole to heal buckles?
 

UncleBuck

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How much did Hillary "accept" in super PAC money? :lol:
Tell me what she could do about it? If a completely unaffiliated third party runs a positive add about her, should she shut down the power grid so that nobody can see the ad?

You just can't bring yourself to admit that your horse lost to a hillary clinton, so you blame ID politics, you blame the trump conspiracy theories, you blame DNC, you blame brazile, you blame ageism, you blame wasserman schulz, etc, etc, etc.

When will you allow your chaffed asshole to heal, Blow-A-Goat?[/QUOTE]
 

Fogdog

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Tell me what he could do about it? If a completely unaffiliated third party (that he never endorsed) runs a positive add about him, should he shut down the power grid so that nobody can see the add?

How much did Hillary "accept" in super PAC money? :lol:

You just can't bring yourself to admit that your horse (whom you promised to leave the forum forever if she didn't win) lost to a talking carrot, so you blame Bernie, you blame the EC, you blame Comey, you blame Russia, you blame sexism, you blame racism, etc, etc, etc.

When will you allow your chaffed asshole to heal buckles?
dude, shut the fuck up.

Saint Bernard benefited from PAC money. It's not a big deal. It's legal and the PAC for Bernie was pretty tiny compared to Hillary's. OK? Just saying that until the rules are changed, people will continue on with big time spending whether you, I or Bernie likes it or not.

The Berniebaby line is Democrats are against campaign finance reform. funny thing, that's what right wingers say. Yet, when Bernie introduced a bill for an amendment that would have repealed Citizen's United, every single Democratic Senator voted for it.

So, we agree on the problem. The solution most Democrats posit is let's change the rules so that nobody can take advantage of unrestricted corporate money. Berniebabies want Democratic leaders to be at a disadvantage when contesting races with big buck opponents. That's your solution too? Can't we disagree about that and let the voters decide in the primaries? My guess is that people who swear off PAC money will by and large get pasted. Are you ok with losing?
 
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st0wandgrow

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Tell me what she could do about it? If a completely unaffiliated third party runs a positive add about her, should she shut down the power grid so that nobody can see the ad?

You just can't bring yourself to admit that your horse lost to a hillary clinton, so you blame ID politics, you blame the trump conspiracy theories, you blame DNC, you blame brazile, you blame ageism, you blame wasserman schulz, etc, etc, etc.

When will you allow your chaffed asshole to heal, Blow-A-Goat?
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She could have chose not to sanction the super PAC and not align herself with them (which Bernie did).

My original comment was about big money interests. You brought up super pacs because you know that Bernie did not solicit nor accept big money campaign contributions, so it was your only angle to smear the guy.

Poor buck. Still butt hurt that Hillary lost to the most unpopular candidiate in the history of the republic. :lol:
 

UncleBuck

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She could have chose not to sanction the super PAC
why?

what is it about correct the record or priorities USA that you disagree with? their insistence on facts, or better health care outcomes?

Bernie did not solicit nor accept big money campaign contributions
bernie got $6+ million from superpacs.

Poor buck. Still butt hurt that Hillary lost to the most unpopular candidiate in the history of the republic. :lol:
poor blow-a-goat. still butthurt that bernie lost to the most popular female politician of all time.
 

Justin-case

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why?

what is it about correct the record or priorities USA that you disagree with? their insistence on facts, or better health care outcomes?



bernie got $6+ million from superpacs.



poor blow-a-goat. still butthurt that bernie lost to the most popular female politician of all time.

I garantee old blow a goat was targeted by Putin Bots during the campaign. Fits the profile to a tee. Funny, he still hasn't figured it out.
 

UncleBuck

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I garantee old blow a goat was targeted by Putin Bots during the campaign. Fits the profile to a tee. Funny, he still hasn't figured it out.
funny how much they focused on MI, WI, and MN while the RNC was writing articles telling them it was a waste of money. they must have cooked up a different plan with cambridge analytics. something to do with targeted advertising using stolen voter information to drive down the black vote, split the bernie vote, and drive out people who hadn't voted in 20 years by convincing them that ISIS muslims were coming to kill them.
 

Justin-case

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funny how much they focused on MI, WI, and MN while the RNC was writing articles telling them it was a waste of money. they must have cooked up a different plan with cambridge analytics. something to do with targeted advertising using stolen voter information to drive down the black vote, split the bernie vote, and drive out people who hadn't voted in 20 years by convincing them that ISIS muslims were coming to kill them.

Yep, remember when he kept spouting off about BLM?

Hook line and sinker, poor blow a goat never saw it coming, sigh.
 

Justin-case

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I must have missed it.

It was in December. Ended in a pretty epic meltdown, lol.


Probably. I was just using buckles logic there. In a different thread I asked if the people advocating killing cops and beating up white people in the BLM movement should be called out, and he justified it because according to him it's only .0001% of the movement doing that kind of stuff.

I don't imagine there's a higher percentage of white folks that hate black folks, than there are black folks that hate white folks?
 
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