I've read everything still need help

Johnei

Johnei

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if pots had holes for grabbing, or using buckets with handles left on, can use cheap luggage scale...
(2 little holes, one on each opossite sides of pot, and bamboo stick running across through holes, now you can lift with luggage scale.)
lol super accurate watering schedule
 

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Johnei

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So all you need now is a EC meter from Australia that doesn't exist, and a luggage scale and bamboo stick and you're golden!


{Pretty heavy on the bong this morning, don't mind me and my crazy talk. It should wear off soon, need food.}
 
Buba Blend

Buba Blend

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Here is what I use. My 3 gallon pots are easy to lift. I use the tile for a flat surface and get pretty accurate readings.IMG_2050.JPG
 
Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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MichiganMedGrower said:
The middle number (phosphorous) should be lower then the other two numbers for marijuana.

3-1-2 is the tested ratio for foliage growth. Many nute companies follow this.

9-3-6 like Dyna grow foliage pro is the same ratio. The higher the numbers the higher the concentration.
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Ha think that might be part of the problem lol, I see my nute numbers are way out of whack. I'm just saying that I now see what I'm using isn't good
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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You don't really need to standardize on one particular fertilizer, it just makes it easier.
I love to tinker and don't mind mixing & measuring. Ph & EC/PPM meters are very helpful.
It's not uncommon to see manufacturers recommend blending grow & bloom versions of their products.
Or you can alternate between feedings.
I love DynaGro Foliage Pro, especially during veg. But if I see mag deficiency, I'll switch to Jacks citrus for a couple of feedings because it has twice as much magnesium. They also seem to like the K boost.
Hell sometimes I go with a liquid fish/seaweed formula to keep the microbes happy.
It's all about balance and being able to read your plants.
 
Buba Blend

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Johnei said:
Seriously bro, you actually weigh your pots!? Not making fun, but I kind of am. LOL

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Not all the time but I went through a period of overwatering in 2015 and 2016. Learned along time ago to grow great crystal. Begged someone to tell me not how great it is, but what they didn't like about it. No one was ever helpful there. Somewhere around 2012 or 2013 I typed marijuana growing as a search on my personal computer. I was always a stealth grower. I've always been around computers but refused to do anything on the phone or computer. Then I started reading stuff. Eventually like many I came to RIU and learned about cool things like runoff and flushing and went through a very educational 2 years of less than stellar quality weed while overwatering. Airy unfinished mediocre get you by till the next grow buds. Glad it's the next grow.
 
Buba Blend

Buba Blend

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Johnei said:
Seriously bro, you actually weigh your pots!? Not making fun, but I kind of am. LOL

:bigjoint:
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Go go n chill said:
Yes I'm in 5 gal pots
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I am a bit anal right now weighing the small pots cause it's easy there in 6" clay pots.
But whats cool is I know this pot # 7 on Monday weighed 3 lbs 8 oz before and 3lbs 14 oz after watering. I also know that today the weight was 3lbs 5 oz and went to 3 lbs 13 oz.
She could have went another day or more without drooping IMHO.
(Remember her Johnie? She will be disappointed if you don't she likes you)

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Go go n chill

Go go n chill

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MichiganMedGrower said:
If that is true and you only gave the light dose of nutes they could need more. But you have to do these things when the plant gives you early signs. Like lower fans thickening turn in down at the tip. White tips down low. Dark green to bluish fan leaves. Or even just the bright green fading.

All of these things indicate hunger for NPK.

And I don't like how your stuff has a high P #

High phosphorous causes problems. I like to see the middle number lower than the N and K
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So, I balanced bottle w less phosphorus Than nitrogen or potassium . The bigger the number the more concentrated the fertilizer so to be safe I should find a veg bottle with lower numbers? I just got back from the grow shop, I will buy my EC meter online. They have a whole plethora of pro products but I did not buy anything yet. I'm wanting to get back to basics like you said And learn slowly what my plants need.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Go go n chill said:
So, I balanced bottle w less phosphorus Than nitrogen or potassium . The bigger the number the more concentrated the fertilizer so to be safe I should find a veg bottle with lower numbers? I just got back from the grow shop, I will buy my EC meter online. They have a whole plethora of pro products but I did not buy anything yet. I'm wanting to get back to basics like you said And learn slowly what my plants need.
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The larger numbers mean you just need to add less to your water.

Please take the time to read the books I linked. The Cervantes book explains all about nutrients. Whole chapter about it.

You want to learn how to grow from brief comments. And half understand and move forward.

I don't believe this is helping. Please do some real research and study.

I grew almost 3 years before ever posting here. And I sure never asked for help from a crowd. This place is useless without a good base of knowledge to know what to listen to and how it works if you do.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Sorry @Go go n chill. Just that we are going around in circles now.

the questions you keep asking show you have not read and comprehended the basics of growing.

the title of your thread is not true. Get reading. And not on here anymore. You need strong fundamentals.

I linked free books and tried to explain some things. Now it is your turn to do some work.
 
Johnei

Johnei

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http://rollitup.org/attachments/image-jpg.3974462/

Just noticed.. yes, MichiganMedMan is absolutely correct, the phosphorus middle number is way high in these 'concoctions' you purchased, no fucking way would that touch my herb plants. Too much P throws other shit out of whack amongst other problems. I don't know what that's made for, maybe orchids or something?? no clue.. but it's not good for our type of plants. This notion all over the grow scene that we need high phosphorus middle number for big buds is just plain FALSE!!!


Consideration for you...
One of the best bloom boosters to ever hit the scene and I would still use today in their older powder version before they went all watered down liquid form, is Advanced Nutrients BigBud, with a ratio of 0-1-4 and 7% Mg, and containing like 16 amino acids in L form. I don't expect you to understand everything I just wrote, but look at the NPK ratio between the 3 numbers... 0-1-4... not 0-4-1 !!!
something to consider if/when ever looking for a flowering helper. Bloom main base nutrients should have the same sort of ratios between elements for flowering, except with added first number N nitrogen for a balanced food source. example 3-1-4.. and base main food should contain all trace minerals including Calcium and Magnesium.
I hope you understand me. Hig phosphorus is bullshit. Potassium is more important for super blooms!

(But to be completely honest/fair, you don't really need to know this shit, Just make sure you use a complete balanced main nutrient food source meant for our type of plant and you should be fine... more N for veg, less N for flower, is the main thing, and super high P levels is not needed, and K always needed consistent strong levels. That's it.)
 
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