Uncle Buck, he nailed this one!

visajoe1

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why are you all arguing over semantics for a war that is very well documented? hilarious how many panties are bunched up over it
 

SneekyNinja

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why are you all arguing over semantics for a war that is very well documented? hilarious how many panties are bunched up over it
We're not arguing, we're debating passionately.

Just cos you completely disagree with someone doesn't mean you've to hate them.
 

visajoe1

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We're not arguing, we're debating passionately.

Just cos you completely disagree with someone doesn't mean you've to hate them.
whos hating? im just curious is all. thought it pretty funny to see snarky replies over a subject (WW2) that really isnt debatable, except for opinions maybe.
 

Fogdog

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Russia would have beat Germany they pretty much did the USA did not play that big of a role in Germany regardless of all the USA made WW2 movies.

Japan on the other hand had to be dealt with they attacked us.

And of course retaliation will be needed if North Korea fires the first shot and China will probably be fine with it. If we go in and assassinate Kim or worse we will most likely start WW3 which has basically begun under Obama.

We are bombing 7+ nation's Russia is in Syria and the Ukraine China is flexing it's muscles in the South China Sea, the Philippines will no longer work with our military and wants an alliance with China and North Korea.

Not all bad though the only way to stop global warming is mass depopulation seems to be the plan anyway.
"Russia would have beat Germany on their own." OK. After all, only 25% of the Russian fighting age male population died as it is. Defeating Germany on their own would raise the stakes to what? Maybe make it 50% of the fighting age men and toss in kids and old men to fill some gaps and die too. Can a country sustain losses like that and win a war? Maybe Hitler would have had the time and resources to build that nuclear bomb? Germany's air power was worn down and eliminated by British and later on, American air raids. Could Russia have won if Germany was able to focus it's air power entirely on Russia?

You have a habit of predicting alternate realities with great confidence. And no wonder you do. The reality is you've swallowed the right wing Kool-aid and no longer live in the reality at present. Everything is made up. Why not history too?
 

SneekyNinja

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"Russia would have beat Germany on their own." OK. After all, only 25% of the Russian fighting age male population died as it is. Defeating Germany on their own would raise the stakes to what? Maybe make it 50% of the fighting age men and toss in kids and old men to fill some gaps and die too. Can a country sustain losses like that and win a war? Maybe Hitler would have had the time and resources to build that nuclear bomb? Germany's air power was worn down and eliminated by British and later on, American air raids. Could Russia have won if Germany was able to focus it's air power entirely on Russia?

You have a habit of predicting alternate realities with great confidence. And no wonder you do. The reality is you've swallowed the right wing Kool-aid and no longer live in the reality at present. Everything is made up. Why not history too?
Hitler was said to be getting close...

Ironically if he hadn't hated the Jews then Einstein and a number of other prominent scientists would have never emigrated to the US.
 

prostheticninja

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Ironically if he hadn't hated the Jews then Einstein and a number of other prominent scientists would have never emigrated to the US.
Many of scientists working in the Manhattan Project were Nazi scientists who were granted pardons so they could come build the bomb here in the United States. I wouldn't necessarily call that "emigrating". Not only that, but to say they only came because of Hitler's hatred, is like saying: "hunnnnna hmmmm yuuuurt." because all you are saying is nonsense. They came here so they didn't have to face a tribunal.

And don't give me that "they were forced into working for the Hitler. They wouldn't have done it otherwise."

Thats what coward does.
 

SneekyNinja

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Many of scientists working in the Manhattan Project were Nazi scientists who were granted pardons so they could come build the bomb here in the United States. I wouldn't necessarily call that "emigrating". Not only that, but to say they only came because of Hitler's hatred, is like saying: "hunnnnna hmmmm yuuuurt." because all you are saying is nonsense. They came here so they didn't have to face a tribunal.

And don't give me that "they were forced into working for the Hitler. They wouldn't have done it otherwise."

Thats what coward does.
You don't deserve the Ninja part of your name, disgraceful alternative facts in play here.

Or is our education system just that fucked?
 

SneekyNinja

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Clearly. Have you read the drivel that spews from your hands?
What?

That the US declared war against the Empire of Japan after Pearl Harbor?

"On December 8, 1941, the United States Congress declared war (Public Law 77-328, 55 STAT 795) on the Empire of Japan in response to that country's surprise attack on Pearl Harbor the prior day."

About prominent figures fleeing the Nazi Regime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_refugees

If you have a source to counter any of that then feel free to post it, there is no opinion in science and history, only fact.
 

prostheticninja

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What?

That the US declared war against the Empire of Japan after Pearl Harbor?

"On December 8, 1941, the United States Congress declared war (Public Law 77-328, 55 STAT 795) on the Empire of Japan in response to that country's surprise attack on Pearl Harbor the prior day."

About prominent figures fleeing the Nazi Regime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_refugees

If you have a source to counter any of that then feel free to post it, there is no opinion in science and history, only fact.
The US did declare war on Japan, I have no argument about that. Go back one page, and read where you say that belief in the fact that Germany declared war on the US must mean you were drunk in school.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/germany-declares-war-on-the-united-states
Also, read your regurgitated attempt at an intellectual blow. You know, the whole facts and opinions bit you copied from the last internet tough guy :roll:

Good job showing me a Wikipedia article on people leaving the Third Reich. Must have been tough to find that "source" buried out there.

I tire of wasting my time typing this response (and it will most likely be wasted on you as you yell "NOT UH!" and slam your keyboard hoping for a response slightly better than your last [don't hold your breath]) so I will just tell you what to research and you can ask your aide to read the Wikipedia articles to you:
Uranium Club
Walter Gerlach
Otto Hahn
Operation Epsilon
Werner Heisenberg
Manhattan Project (specifically relating to the Alsos Mission)
 

SneekyNinja

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The US did declare war on Japan, I have no argument about that. Go back one page, and read where you say that belief in the fact that Germany declared war on the US must mean you were drunk in school.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/germany-declares-war-on-the-united-states
Also, read your regurgitated attempt at an intellectual blow. You know, the whole facts and opinions bit you copied from the last internet tough guy :roll:

Good job showing me a Wikipedia article on people leaving the Third Reich. Must have been tough to find that "source" buried out there.

I tire of wasting my time typing this response (and it will most likely be wasted on you as you yell "NOT UH!" and slam your keyboard hoping for a response slightly better than your last [don't hold your breath]) so I will just tell you what to research and you can ask your aide to read the Wikipedia articles to you:
Uranium Club
Walter Gerlach
Otto Hahn
Operation Epsilon
Werner Heisenberg
Manhattan Project (specifically relating to the Alsos Mission)
Most of those never even left Germany.

I was talking about the ones that fled Nazi Germany, yes there were some who were pardoned once they got here but that's a minority and makes no difference to what I said.

If you're going to be an argumentative little bitch at least try be accurate.
 

prostheticninja

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Most of those never even left Germany.

I was talking about the ones that fled Nazi Germany, yes there were some who were pardoned once they got here but that's a minority and makes no difference to what I said.

If you're going to be an argumentative little bitch at least try be accurate.
What are you talking about? Operation Epsilon and the Aslos Mission were directly concerned with removing Nazi scientists from Germany and placing them in friendly countries. They most likely did not leave Germany because they were not allowed. Gerlach hated the Nazis and was very outspoken of them.

You were so excited to tell me to use a citation. Why don't you cite whatever tough guy you are pulling your "witty" quips from. You know, the ones that you like to end your "responses" with?
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SneekyNinja

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What are you talking about? Operation Epsilon and the Aslos Mission were directly concerned with removing Nazi scientists from Germany and placing them in friendly countries. They most likely did not leave Germany because they were not allowed. Gerlach hated the Nazis and was very outspoken of them.

You were so excited to tell me to use a citation. Why don't you cite whatever tough guy you are pulling your "witty" quips from. You know, the ones that you like to end your "responses" with?
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The last paragraph is mine.

Have a nice night ;)
 
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