RAIDED!! EVERYTHING CLOSED! STATE WIDE PUSH!

[HGK420]

250,000 patients would only spend 240$ annually/20$ monthly/5$ weekly to hit 60 million. At 20$ a gram, that's one joint per month

I'm pretty sure our friendly pot docs and lawyers cost patients a multiple of that number alone ...

the entire system is a mess at the moment. most the money flows to consumers energy/DTE/BWL, grow equipment, police, dispensaries, docs and fees. then whats left has to cover overhead and shit.... like i said I've been doing this for 5 years very successfully and i still have to buy store brand food on sale and we haven't taken a vacation since this whole thing started.. thats not the way it should be, everyone on every level should be doing good if they put in the work but its very skewed for the people on top right now.

besides I'm sure that 60mil number is just overall gross the industry moves around not just net profit. theres a ton of overhead in the system now with docs and middleman and whatnot.

 

[Hoare]

and the largest age group that would be using legal cannabis would be the 18-30 year olds .

I live in a medium size town, in an agriculture community, in the legal state of Washington. Sitting in front of a legal recreation store and watching the people go in and out....
the vast majority...
and I mean VAST majority appear to be over 40....
most I would put @ 40-60.
just an observation.

 

[Corso312]

250,000 patients would only spend 240$ annually/20$ monthly/5$ weekly to hit 60 million. At 20$ a gram, that's one joint per month

I'm pretty sure our friendly pot docs and lawyers cost patients a multiple of that number alone ...

Using the 250k as a base( low IMO) and assuming an average of 100$ monthly( low IMO) that's what 300 million?

 

[HGK420]

Using the 250k as a base( low IMO) and assuming an average of 100$ monthly( low IMO) that's what 300 million?

plenty of room for hundreds of caregivers to make 100k a year...

i think people forget just how good a job that pays 100k a year is.. thats only like 9 lights rocking out efficiently...

 

[TheMan13]

Using the 250k as a base( low IMO) and assuming an average of 100$ monthly( low IMO) that's what 300 million?

What are patients getting for 100$ a month? At 20-10$ per gram that would shake out to only 5-10 joints per month. Is that an adequate medicinal level/therapeutic dose

All I know is that if I had to purchase rather than grow my medicine, I could not and that's the common Big Gov't/Big Corp plan ...

 

[dandyrandy]

I live in a medium size town, in an agriculture community, in the legal state of Washington. Sitting in front of a legal recreation store and watching the people go in and out....
the vast majority...
and I mean VAST majority appear to be over 40....
most I would put @ 40-60.
just an observation.

I wish I was walking in and out. Not in this state!

 

[HGK420]

I wish I was walking in and out. Not in this state!

go to the genesee county compassion club. 30+ vendors in 1 spot

 

[TheMan13]

Did Dr Who get caught up in the Detroit dispensary mess/crack down? I'm unfamiliar with his shop. It's pretty scary how they're keeping all these MMJ raids out of the news ...

Which Detroit MMJ shops have closed their doors thus far?

 

[Rrog]

Are they just considered so commonplace so as to be not news-worthy, I wonder?

I'd hate to think they are working with all local media to effectively plug all leaks

 

[TheMan13]

Are they just considered so commonplace so as to be not news-worthy, I wonder?

I'd hate to think they are working with all local media to effectively plug all leaks

Defense attorneys are just as interested in hiding the facts of the matter of their industry as the State's Is that a symbiotic or parasitic relationship

For the life of me I cannot understand how they parse their way around our rights granted in section 4 of our law (MMMA) with arbitrary numbers/limits to justify these criminal law enforcement raids and seizures of patients and caregivers. Our law is not simply the medical exception (aka upto 2.5oz/12 plants) as they would like to argue. They are clearly violating our rights (MMMA sec 4) and committing crimes (burglary and larceny) in doing so. Section 4 needed to consider the violation of these patient/caregiver rights by the State a felony in itself for it to have ever had a chance at providing any integrity of the law. Without penalty for these violations, we have what we see here: a legal loophole ...

 

[vapor85]

Are they just considered so commonplace so as to be not news-worthy, I wonder?

I'd hate to think they are working with all local media to effectively plug all leaks

Wouldn't surprise me at all. I have watched the local media pump out the state police mafia propaganda for years.

 

[Dr. Who]

so you paid $175 for your top shelf I'm assuming? makes sense you'd pay most for what you can earn most on... so you buy an ounce for $175 and get $520 back and you wanna act like a hero?

thats $345 per ounce in PROFIT. so your GROSSING TWICE AS MUCH AS THE GROWER~!~@!@!~@~!~!

ok lets pretend you only get $15 a gram for the stuff you pay $175 for THATS STILL $400 AN OUNCE!!@#!@#!

i bet belle tire gets its tires from kumho for like $30 a piece and is able to sell them for $300 a pop... thats how business works for sure....

NO its called supply and demand and because theres an over abundance of people who have a supply but are to afraid to go build a demand people like yourself are able to take the risk and MAKE MILLIONS $345 at a time.... you said it yourself... your pay $175 per ounce YOU MAKE $520 DOLLARS ON!!!!

basically if the laws weren't so shady and people were able to openly share the fact they have overages the economy would be totally different... the dispensary owners would be shit out of luck if they wanna lowball because if i can openly trade with other patients, a dispensary can go all throatzilla on my backside, end of story.

k sorry got a little rant like... didn't mean to interrupt the QQ session for the guy MAKING $520 AN OUNCE WHEN HE BUYS IT FOR $175!!!!!?!?!?!? wtf..

You do NOT make $520 a zip smart guy! 1500 a month rent - electrical - insurance - paying employee's - the set up cost alone is more then you will spend on your little grow over the next 3-5 years! there are costs you would never even think of.....it was never a "cake walk" and we sure as HELL aren't like Harborside collective in Cali making 7 figures a year! In fact profit per is LESS then 6 figures *NET*.....so go bitch someplace else!

If you have a kid in a children's hospital or in Make a wish - OUR MONEY is there!

We supplied over 70% of needs by ourselves.....I'm going to be paying for that!

I opened disp. to serve those who choose to NOT to grow or go with a caregiver. There are many who choose that!

Making money is not against the law! Much of that was spent locally and we give graciously to charities.

Screw this

 

[Dr. Who]

oh dude if full legalization happened small growers would out, even large scale small growers would be out. big businesses would hold the majority of sales and I'm not talking about walmart but theres people out there in the weed business that are like the walmart of weed waiting for that legalization push to hit so they can take the market. its not a matter of if its a matter of when

And THIS is exactly what some of my testimony to the house and senate was about!

Look what happened in Canada after they bought into the "Prairie Farms" deal. They actually sold contaminated "medicine" to the supply chain!

The MI congress smells MONEY and the big wallyworld weed guys are buying votes! To make the most they have to get rid of whats there. Caregiver AND personal growing!

So then, to all those Disp haters out there calling me a "greedy" storefronter........The MI laws are going to change and your ALL going to be buying from REAL (already rich) "corporate" greedy storefronters !

@HGK420 Your "quality" mean's NOTHING to the state! Hope you enjoy buying from your white collar buddies, because THAT is what the MI power mongers WANT! From the AG to state police to the state congress......OH YEAH! All that nice new 8-25% tax tacked on AT the disp (and others amounts at all levels of processing/distribution is going to have a hefty chunk taken out and supplied to all levels of all police departments to hire new officers and equipment to find YOU! That's right YOU, the little home grower because YOUR the new enemy of the state for "stealing" THEIR profit!

I was there for these testimonies. I have seen the real vision of the state.....The news tells you only the smallest of the details!

 

[kingzt]

Michigan is a big market for legal cannabis. Our population is almost double than Colorado and surrounded by states that would love to come up here and get quality cannabis. It is kind of scary to see big money come in here and take over what people had been doing for the past 7-8 years.

I really hope those House bills don't pass. Seed to sale is ridiculous and a high tax on cannabis is just greedy. I sure would like to open a dispensary one day that I can actually supply my own grown cannabis. Also screw these different tiers of medicine, all my medicine goes for one set donation and I feel ashamed to see what these top shelf strains look like at dispos in Detroit.

 

[Dr. Who]

all designed to try and force you to buy the shit this dude who started this thread is selling... the $520 an ounce weed he bought for $175

I have feeling your weed would not pass our grade for us to have bought!

AND $175 was the STARTING base price we paid for weed......ALL buck seventy five weed was $10 grams !!!!

You should go back to selling electronics and get a real education on how MY industry works!

 

[Dr. Who]

Did Dr Who get caught up in the Detroit dispensary mess/crack down? I'm unfamiliar with his shop. It's pretty scary how they're keeping all these MMJ raids out of the news ...

Which Detroit MMJ shops have closed their doors thus far?

No - other side of the state

 

[Dr. Who]

go to the genesee county compassion club. 30+ vendors in 1 spot

I'll bet THAT is going to be ending soon too! Uncle Bill is watching!

 

[kingzt]

I have feeling your weed would not pass our grade for us to have bought!

AND $175 was the STARTING base price we paid for weed......ALL buck seventy five weed was $10 grams !!!!

You should go back to selling electronics and get a real education on how MY industry works!

Yeah unfortunately a lot of people don't really know what quality cannabis is. There is a handful of people who will find a landlord that will let them grow and fill it with 72 plants and then find another landlord to do the same. They pay people people to be caregivers and to have the lease in their names and continue. They grow heavy yielding strains with sub par quality, like critical mass, purple kush or pot of gold. These people make bank and the people buying them out to piece it out make good money too. Then the consumer gets stoke because they think their blowing that loud but in actuality it;s just mids.

 

[HGK420]

Yeah unfortunately a lot of people don't really know what quality cannabis is. There is a handful of people who will find a landlord that will let them grow and fill it with 72 plants and then find another landlord to do the same. They pay people people to be caregivers and to have the lease in their names and continue. They grow heavy yielding strains with sub par quality, like critical mass, purple kush or pot of gold. These people make bank and the people buying them out to piece it out make good money too. Then the consumer gets stoke because they think their blowing that loud but in actuality it;s just mids.

thats one of the reasons our economy has gotten whacked so bad in the middle.. the customer base is very thick in the 150-200 an ounce range and its forced a lot of people to sell more valuable weed for those prices to try to compete with some of the bigger growers, only people who haven't still hold the MUCH higher quality cuts. now a days its basically gotta be perfect to command more then 200 at the grower level and to get 200 you gotta be bringing the heat too.

problem is tho as the providing end of the equation we can't say "NO buy this stuff for more money its worth more trust" the customer is always right... so now a days we have customers that want cheap weed thats better then regs but not much more expensive then regs... thats a tough game to play but its not impossible, like you say there are some strains that yield A lot and aren't terrible quality so those are the ones you grow to compete in this market.

 

[HGK420]

I have feeling your weed would not pass our grade for us to have bought!

AND $175 was the STARTING base price we paid for weed......ALL buck seventy five weed was $10 grams !!!!

You should go back to selling electronics and get a real education on how MY industry works!

well your feeling is wrong. 2 of my cuts have taken medals.. so ya, IN YOUR FACE! lol.. I'm not the one to start throwing around "awe you suck at this industry" accusations. but besides who cares if i grow the best weed in the world like I've said very few want to spend more then $175 now a days because the middle is super flooded, id rather grow some pretty damn decent smoke that yields better so i can compete for the real customer base... i don't know too many rappers that wanna pay that top shelf dollar around the michigan area....

and I'm not about to try and sell to dispensary owners like you so some bozo that doesn't know how to follow laws can get raided and give up all my information that points to outside the system grey area activity..

why is your industry any different then any other? your competing for the money in the state.... if your an LA dispensary your chances at making money are WAYYYY higher then a michigan dispensary considering theres 30 million people in the greater LA area.. michigan has maybe 10 million ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE.. with 3 of the poorest cities in the entire country making up a large portion of that population... selling any product is selling any product you only have the money in your area to work with...