Ttystikk's vertical goodness

Vnsmkr

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And yet, I'm also in complete agreement with those who insist on high efficiency, big yields and weed on a factory scale and on a schedule.
Yeah I dont have any issues with people doing that. I just dont agree with money dictating all....and when I look out at this world these days, high numbers are all that matters, it makes or breaks.....its a stupid fkn thing thats being "instilled" in children and adults alike
 

ttystikk

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To explain; first, everyone has their own set of priorities. I understand they differ for different situations, legal environments, desired outcomes, etc.

As a horticultural systems designer, it's my job to meet the needs of my clients and customers, not dictate what they should be.

No one WANTS to throw quality under the bus in the chase for yield, but it's an easy choice that does fill the grower's wallet. Ignoring this reality is an ivory tower mistake.

Yet, I feel strongly that quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive goals and that Big Cannabis is never going to be as much of a commodity business as corn or pork bellies. Quality always has, still does, and increasingly will count for a great deal of the price going forward.

To this end, I'm attacking the yield side aggressively, by reducing the square footage, reducing the necessary power requirements and reducing the needed manhours per unit of volume produced.

Yet nothing in the book of efficiency improvements precludes greater returns, nor is there an absolute tradeoff to the quality of the end product. In short, I seek to push the boundaries of performance without trampling on the plant any more than necessary- and that's a standard set by the customer. There's the dispensary/warehouse operator who has one set of requirements and then there's THEIR customer, whose needs might be substantially different.

In short, one ignores quality at great peril to reputation and bottom line.
 

ttystikk

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Yeah I dont have any issues with people doing that. I just dont agree with money dictating all....and when I look out at this world these days, high numbers are all that matters, it makes or breaks.....its a stupid fkn thing thats being "instilled" in children and adults alike
You went a completely different direction with that than I did.

What are friends for? Lol
 

Vnsmkr

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Hell even I cant argue with the fact that the more weed I can produce that means the more I can consume! Thats a fucking winner in my book!
 

lawlrus

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I see both sides of the coin. For me, high yield without sacrifice to quality is a necessity because I don't have the luxury of moving to a legal state at the moment. That's what got me into vertical growing to begin with. Aside from the legal aspect, I'm paid in the top 5% of people in my zip code currently for the job I do, but if I moved out west I would not have that same economic opportunity by a long shot. At the end of the day the most important thing is quality and if I was able to quantify the balance between that and yield I would absolutely lose a few ounces at the end of the run if it meant that I would be looking at absolute top shelf A++ quality (and I'm way tougher on myself than anybody else is in this regard). It's just not that simple, so I have to do what I have to do to strike a good balance in the best way I know how. IDK, just another opinion from a not-so-friendly state.
 

ttystikk

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I see both sides of the coin. For me, high yield without sacrifice to quality is a necessity because I don't have the luxury of moving to a legal state at the moment. That's what got me into vertical growing to begin with. Aside from the legal aspect, I'm paid in the top 5% of people in my zip code currently for the job I do, but if I moved out west I would not have that same economic opportunity by a long shot. At the end of the day the most important thing is quality and if I was able to quantify the balance between that and yield I would absolutely lose a few ounces at the end of the run if it meant that I would be looking at absolute top shelf A++ quality (and I'm way tougher on myself than anybody else is in this regard). It's just not that simple, so I have to do what I have to do to strike a good balance in the best way I know how. IDK, just another opinion from a not-so-friendly state.
Everyone's viewpoint is appreciated, and your comments really strike to the heart of the grower's conundrum; how to produce the best you can in enough quantity to make it viable. The legal environment has surprisingly little to do with it; it's the customer who decides.
 

lawlrus

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Everyone's viewpoint is appreciated, and your comments really strike to the heart of the grower's conundrum; how to produce the best you can in enough quantity to make it viable. The legal environment has surprisingly little to do with it; it's the customer who decides.
For sure, and there's no doubt that one could fetch a higher price for mediocre product in my area than you likely could charge for top shelf in yours for a number of reasons. I really only care about making back my minimal investment and helping friends and family so the rest is just icing on the cake. But nearly doubling my yields over the years just by switching the position of the light bulb was hard to pass up either way.
 

ttystikk

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They always try to cheap out on the fresh ingredients

My wife has been trying her hand at making it at home. It's surprisingly easy.
I suspect that puerile people complained pathetically. I asked and was rewarded with an ample handful, as well as what sure seemed like a lot more beef, lol

Yum! It's what's pho dinner!
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Married bliss, it's a wonderful thing!

PS for any single women who might be out there, keep in mind that the quickest way to my heart is right thru my stomach.
 

zep_lover

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I suspect that puerile people complained pathetically. I asked and was rewarded with an ample handful, as well as what sure seemed like a lot more beef, lol

Yum! It's what's pho dinner!
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Married bliss, it's a wonderful thing!

PS for any single women who might be out there, keep in mind that the quickest way to my heart is right thru my stomach.
nice dinner but where are the pics of the new lights?
 

greencropper

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I suspect that puerile people complained pathetically. I asked and was rewarded with an ample handful, as well as what sure seemed like a lot more beef, lol

Yum! It's what's pho dinner!
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Married bliss, it's a wonderful thing!

PS for any single women who might be out there, keep in mind that the quickest way to my heart is right thru my stomach.
funny how Pho is pronounced..'fur'....
 
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