The Dons' Organic Garden

[DonTesla]

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Couple more hilights here..

1st attempt at the no till..


Learned a lot from our mistakes..six plants mashed in here. Never again I tell you!


My little homeless assistant whom I rescued once Dp moved away and left me at the helm
Hope she's doing good in her adopted home..


Dp in spirit as his SourD beasts across this no till like a bully at recess.
Everybody bug him to make seeds this year pLeAsE!!!


Some local F1 KosherTahoe we flowered with water only from seed, in one gallon smarties.. What a profile on this one..


Glad we have a KK growing again.. I love her afghani structure and floral coffee-pine aromas


Some rare heirloom from seed, this difficult to clone strain grew dense popcorn around the stem and left stem holes thru the nuggets, gaining the name o2 back in the 90's
Fast strong and fruity.. Miss her as well


About the hollow stems around here, folks..


This Short 3rd gen Jack Cleaner clone got so frosty so quick it wasn't even funny. These petioles are mind blowing

Black Forrest for breaky?
This nugget, dwarfing a 40 of rum like child's play, was a good 100grams wet and cured to over an ounce and actually required 2 separate 1L mason jars to house her, while the plant yielded over a qp in a 3 gallon plastic pot

 

[coughphee.connoiseur]

Wow!!! are they grown under cobs?, I'm 2-4 weeks off starting my first run under my diy cob fixture, which is really a prototype for 2 slightly bigger lights, and to be honest, I'm pretty nervous about the harvest weight/denseness of buds, obviously I've read the threads, but they're proper poisonous threads pmsl, those guys could start an argument in an empty room. I've read conflicting reports and I've also seen great results with led (on photo's).

Here's some snaps of the fixture


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9 cxa3070AB 3000k between 3 hlg-h185-c1050a + 24v led strip 5000k on 60w driver, the whole light draws a measured 358W, this is covering a 4x4 tent(the code on the driver may be wrong, but the values are right). Do you think this is enough? and what height do you keep your lights?, I'm having humidity issue's, although my temps are perfect.

FUCKIN RIGHTEOUS

 

[DonTesla]

Wow!!! are they grown under cobs?, I'm 2-4 weeks off starting my first run under my diy cob fixture, which is really a prototype for 2 slightly bigger lights, and to be honest, I'm pretty nervous about the harvest weight/denseness of buds, obviously I've read the threads, but they're proper poisonous threads pmsl, those guys could start an argument in an empty room. I've read conflicting reports and I've also seen great results with led (on photo's).

Here's some snaps of the fixture


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9 cxa3070AB 3000k between 3 hlg-h185-c1050a + 24v led strip 5000k on 60w driver, the whole light draws a measured 358W, this is covering a 4x4 tent(the code on the driver may be wrong, but the values are right). Do you think this is enough? and what height do you keep your lights?, I'm having humidity issue's, although my temps are perfect.

High humidity or low?
Seems like a lot of light for 4x4..should be equivilent to about 750w hps with 30% less heat. normal guys would go 1000w air cooled in a 4x4 or 600w. so set for an awesome run if you don't chintz out on vegging.
Are your strains the same as your last run?

Only thing is your cobs are gonna penetrate a lot more than your little LEDs but its a beautiful build imo.
Congrats.. Who helped you?

 

[DonTesla]

When are you/yall stating a seed business. Let me no I'll order

Appreciate that Anzo

We have distribution lined up in Canada and USA thanks to a friend in biz.
Our packaging is under way and will be as good as CropKing if it goes well, with a DonFamily pin hopefully this year and hi def photography from our own garden splashing the packaging for sure
Our first set of strains will be ready in April or May (I hope)
Our Jordan of the Islands crosses should be ready for next Christmas..
If we could lower our percentage of females from seed this would be easier and faster, but its well over 80% fem from male fem stock

 

[anzohaze]

Appreciate that Anzo

We have distribution lined up in Canada and USA thanks to a friend in biz.
Our packaging is under way and will be as good as CropKing if it goes well, with a DonFamily pin hopefully this year and hi def photography from our own garden splashing the packaging for sure
Our first set of strains will be ready in April or May (I hope)
Our Jordan of the Islands crosses should be ready for next Christmas..
If we could lower our percentage of females from seed this would be easier and faster, but its well over 80% fem from male fem stock

please keep me posted and let me know when and were the drop happens I'll be sure to pick up a few packs

 

[DonBrennon]

High humidity or low?
Seems like a lot of light for 4x4..should be equivilent to about 750w hps with 30% less heat. normal guys would go 1000w air cooled in a 4x4 or 600w. so set for an awesome run if you don't chintz out on vegging.
Are your strains the same as your last run?

Only thing is your cobs are gonna penetrate a lot more than your little LEDs but its a beautiful build imo.
Congrats.. Who helped you?

Low, dry as a bone, well around 40ish +/-5deg, but lower than I'd like for veg.

The strip leds were added as a bit of an after thought, I'm an electrician by trade, (although I'm no expert on electronics, different thing all together), and them and the driver were 'salvaged' after a job lol. I built the light myself, the main part of my job is installing led fixtures(increasingly so over the last few years) and we sometimes get faulty one's which we try and repair sometimes successfully, sometimes not. I've only just started to realize the potential of some of the fittings we are installing.

Here's my salvaged/botched lights keeping my mothers alive and used for early veg



Not gonna have any lighting companies worried but they're doing the job, free lights are better, and the little bay tree I bought a couple of weeks ago loves it in there.

edit....... a lot of light for a 4x4 sounds good to me

 

[DonBrennon]

Appreciate that Anzo

We have distribution lined up in Canada and USA thanks to a friend in biz.
Our packaging is under way and will be as good as CropKing if it goes well, with a DonFamily pin hopefully this year and hi def photography from our own garden splashing the packaging for sure
Our first set of strains will be ready in April or May (I hope)
Our Jordan of the Islands crosses should be ready for next Christmas..
If we could lower our percentage of females from seed this would be easier and faster, but its well over 80% fem from male fem stock

Hmmmnnnnn............wouldn't mind sampling some of your gens to, I'll be keeping my eye out for this. I'd rather buy seed from someone I know is legit and in it for the love of it, rather than just a fast buck.

 

[DonTesla]

Last set of hilights are a tribute to the true Founders of the Dons, not i, but both Dp and his genius of a dad, my two favorite teachers world wide mon, and very much the reason I am who I am today.. Couldn't have done half of what I did without their ongoing pooling of knowledge and experimentation

That said, lets explore some soil and seed and light shots, as that's where all the magic hides ..

Start with some humus based, organic Living soil..
Big up Dp for spotting this niche before it became popular



Add the best genetics you can get your hands on.. Big up to DonWolof for doing his thing back in the day and saving all these wildly potent F1 heirlooms.

And to DonPetro for networking with guys like the Rev
And getting us sneak peeks on strains before they came to world market.
Inspiring!


Hire a DIY LED genius to build you a fleet of solderless cob panels, or become one yourself.. Again, big up to Dp for crossing this bridge himself and coming back to share the knowledge
And to all his mentors who helped, I thank you too.



Also a shout out to the knowledgable Pat whereever you are, our humble homie Stow and especially the wise microbeMan, whose 2500gal tea batches helped us clear the air and identify our minimalistic sweet spots.


Big up to DP's endless obsession with creating better soil recipes, and now, light designs..as I'm in love with these vero's..straight up.. Possibly my best investment of my whole life


Did I mention they get better with age vs losing 10% viability every 100 days, like Hps's do unfortunately?


To a Solderless future for the Dons and our friends..

 

[DonTesla]

Hmmmnnnnn............wouldn't mind sampling some of your gens to, I'll be keeping my eye out for this. I'd rather buy seed from someone I know is legit and in it for the love of it, rather than just a fast buck.

Much respect dude, I'd like your opinion.

Those feminized companies taxing the people drive me crazy tho..

My personal vision includes a company that sells insane vials of male pollen, deadly male female seeds all small batches, hand crafted, and fully loaded organic soil amendment packs..
The goal being helping the enthusiast and caregiver vs cornering the market and forcing ppl's hands..

And winning a few Cannibus cups of course

We'll have to see what the future all holds, but either way,
Can't wait to meet all you cool ass cats that been supporting the thread for a minute!

Been a slice

 

[DonTesla]

Low, dry as a bone, well around 40ish +/-5deg, but lower than I'd like for veg.

The strip leds were added as a bit of an after thought, I'm an electrician by trade, (although I'm no expert on electronics, different thing all together), and them and the driver were 'salvaged' after a job lol. I built the light myself, the main part of my job is installing led fixtures(increasingly so over the last few years) and we sometimes get faulty one's which we try and repair sometimes successfully, sometimes not. I've only just started to realize the potential of some of the fittings we are installing.

Here's my salvaged/botched lights keeping my mothers alive and used for early veg

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Not gonna have any lighting companies worried but they're doing the job, free lights are better, and the little bay tree I bought a couple of weeks ago loves it in there.

edit....... a lot of light for a 4x4 sounds good to me

U like it around 50 60?
I had bone dry humidity too.. Even lower.
Started sucking less air in
Less air out too, then increased pot size. Now we at 40-55% vs just 20-40 and the room's door is almost always cracked open a foot or two

 

[MyLittleGrundle]

Great pictorial. Glad i've been hanging out here with you two fine guys, I'd also be down with some of your gear when the time comes. Your plants always look so healthy and the buds, knuff said.

 

[oldbikepunk]

Much respect dude, I'd like your opinion.

Those feminized companies taxing the people drive me crazy tho..

My personal vision includes a company that sells insane vials of male pollen, deadly male female seeds all small batches, hand crafted, and fully loaded organic soil amendment packs..
The goal being helping the enthusiast and caregiver vs cornering the market and forcing ppl's hands..

And winning a few Cannibus cups of course

We'll have to see what the future all holds, but either way,
Can't wait to meet all you cool ass cats that been supporting the thread for a minute!

Been a slice

I bought a six-pack of feminized seeds from Elemental Wellness in SJ CA. They took 'True OG' clones, developed them for years and made their own 'The True OG' which wins awards. I won't buy anymore. I buy seeds (among others) that have hit over 30% THC purely to make my own seed-crosses with them. The True OG seeds are $200 for six. Total ripoff. I buy stupid stuff for fun. A new-strain $40 Sherbet clone. So, against 15 strains I sprouted it grew The Weakest. Among a 9lb Hammer (found two tiny expelled male sacs today), a Sour Secret, and a Mickey Kush-all potential 30%- it's hands down the loser. Among my own crosses it's just pathetic. I wanted to try it, get the high THC genetics to make seeds, and make it purple or something. I agree with the spirit of your weed growing feelings. I love making seeds. I'm flowering 7 strains of homegrown seeds with varying amounts of crossing over five years or so which were then all crossed with a male I grew from this cross: clone-only SFVOG Kush x Chemdawg IV. They're all different and similar in the frosting of leaves. I cross things with whatever males turn up among the plants I sprout. I don't need to buy seeds or clones anymore really. I have a lifetime of seeds made from great seeds i bought and my old Durban Poison. I'm making seeds with pollen from TGA strains Dr Who and Purple Deathstar (Querkle x Deathstar). I have three other males I'm not using. I gather pollen, use some, save it, and keep the plants alive awhile. I have different strains made from, but not all together : Mendo Purps; ten-year IBL, purely-sativa, bore of a Durban Poison strain turned spectacular in crosses; Chemdawg IV from Kiloa; an insane clone-only Chemdawg IV; 3D; Vortex; Urkle; F.O.G.(Northern Lights 5 Haze x Skunk #1); Chernobyl; Space Queen; Romulan Sour Grapefruit; clone-Cheese; Trainwreck; etc., I have 15 more strains of TGA to grow and cross. Yes, it gets ridiculous. I have a backpack of vegetable and weed seeds. I have not wrapped my mind around embracing your radical soil with bugs, but I've been using dirt and water only. And recycling my old soil with new as i use more.

 

[oldbikepunk]

night before last me and my 2 kids (girls 4 & 6) were up on the roof and I asked them both to smell the flowers, 2x Dr Who, 1x Viet Sativa, 1x Blue Dream, which are flowering. The only one the said ewwww on was the Blue Dream and she does smell pretty skunky. The Viet has a unique smell, cant describe it, "fresh" maybe with some piney addition as well. And both the Dr Who's reek of lemon really nice smell, sweet and sour on stem rub.

Blue Dream makes great buds and grows fast. It blew away five other elite clone strains I just picked. Platinum GSC is a standout as well. A youngster in the hood got a whiff of all six and said, "That's loud." GSC is Loud. Slow, but I see why it's popular now. Even better in dirt grown at home.

 

[DonBrennon]

U like it around 50 60?
I had bone dry humidity too.. Even lower.
Started sucking less air in
Less air out too, then increased pot size. Now we at 40-55% vs just 20-40 and the room's door is almost always cracked open a foot or two

The older plants don't mind it at 40%ish, but i find younger plants grow faster and healthier at around 55%, which is what i try to aim for during veg. I've tried slowing my fan down with a controller but it makes horrific noise if not run at maximum. I might try with a timer 15 on 15 off see what happens to my temps

 

[oldbikepunk]

Nice pic bra
This was no co2 either. u dont need co2 for frost.
This Is my personal in-house favorite, the Don's own "Colonel's Gravy" with its epic Skunk, Silver and Chernobyl influences..

Insanely debilitating potency, especially for the first half hour. Never seen a strain that could put vets right to sleep with a half a tight cigarette size j, like clock work.
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This uber-original, double-dangerous Don Family strain could compete with cookie products no,word of a lie..its terp profile smell-wise is fuckin straight KFC gravy over rotten apples, so unique and rare, plus she activates the third eye harrd another super rare trait, thanks to its Borneal content. i'd look that up.. 4 potential candidates right now, here is one, in a one gallon fab-pot
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..be looking very closely for a rare Gravy pheno this round. So far they all reek so I'm stoked

I tried three Cookie strains for kicks. I missed 2 years of growing and i needed buds fast so i sprouted seeds and bought clones. Platinum GSC clone-only was pretty good. But I don't think i even kept a clone of the clone alive. Afterwards, the strong odor, it's good. The other two-Key Lime Pie, and Sherbet..the only two of twenty strains to get powdery mildew. It's not even hot. So, they're out. I still have Sherbet clones i made myself, but ..powdery mildew. ehh. Home made strains rule. Those two have spindly growth too. I'll take pics of a 5' indoor Urkle OG and a 5' Durban3DxPurpsPoison x OG. Both are off the hinges at six weeks of 12 hours. They're with others under an old 1,000 watt HPS with a brand new bulb and about to get a light mover installed. I had to move and start over.

 

[DonPetro]

Last set of hilights are a tribute to the true Founders of the Dons, not i, but both Dp and his genius of a dad, my two favorite teachers world wide mon, and very much the reason I am who I am today.. Couldn't have done half of what I did without their ongoing pooling of knowledge and experimentation

That said, lets explore some soil and seed and light shots, as that's where all the magic hides ..
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Start with some humus based, organic Living soil..
Big up Dp for spotting this niche before it became popular


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Add the best genetics you can get your hands on.. Big up to DonWolof for doing his thing back in the day and saving all these wildly potent F1 heirlooms.

And to DonPetro for networking with guys like the Rev
And getting us sneak peeks on strains before they came to world market.
Inspiring!

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Hire a DIY LED genius to build you a fleet of solderless cob panels, or become one yourself.. Again, big up to Dp for crossing this bridge himself and coming back to share the knowledge
And to all his mentors who helped, I thank you too.


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Also a shout out to the knowledgable Pat whereever you are, our humble homie Stow and especially the wise microbeMan, whose 2500gal tea batches helped us clear the air and identify our minimalistic sweet spots.

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Big up to DP's endless obsession with creating better soil recipes, and now, light designs..as I'm in love with these vero's..straight up.. Possibly my best investment of my whole life

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Did I mention they get better with age vs losing 10% viability every 100 days, like Hps's do unfortunately?

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To a Solderless future for the Dons and our friends..

Love that second last pic! The light coming from the cobs looks so cool!

 

[Grandpa GreenJeans]

Damn dude, with all I have read and seen just on this one page, I'm subd! Going back to pg.1. I've got alot of reading to do. Great job, awesome grow, humble honest passion, DIY ingenuity, NEVER STOP! Your definitely an asset to this community and hopefully soon, to the industry. If ever products become for sale, I'll be among your first consumers!

 

[oldbikepunk]

Last set of hilights are a tribute to the true Founders of the Dons, not i, but both Dp and his genius of a dad, my two favorite teachers world wide mon, and very much the reason I am who I am today.. Couldn't have done half of what I did without their ongoing pooling of knowledge and experimentation

That said, lets explore some soil and seed and light shots, as that's where all the magic hides ..
View attachment 3582830
Start with some humus based, organic Living soil..
Big up Dp for spotting this niche before it became popular


View attachment 3582834
Add the best genetics you can get your hands on.. Big up to DonWolof for doing his thing back in the day and saving all these wildly potent F1 heirlooms.

And to DonPetro for networking with guys like the Rev
And getting us sneak peeks on strains before they came to world market.
Inspiring!

View attachment 3582838
Hire a DIY LED genius to build you a fleet of solderless cob panels, or become one yourself.. Again, big up to Dp for crossing this bridge himself and coming back to share the knowledge
And to all his mentors who helped, I thank you too.


View attachment 3582839
Also a shout out to the knowledgable Pat whereever you are, our humble homie Stow and especially the wise microbeMan, whose 2500gal tea batches helped us clear the air and identify our minimalistic sweet spots.

View attachment 3582866
Big up to DP's endless obsession with creating better soil recipes, and now, light designs..as I'm in love with these vero's..straight up.. Possibly my best investment of my whole life

View attachment 3582875
Did I mention they get better with age vs losing 10% viability every 100 days, like Hps's do unfortunately?

View attachment 3582878
To a Solderless future for the Dons and our friends..

Your bugs make me smile!

 

[oldbikepunk]

Love that second last pic! The light coming from the cobs looks so cool!

Hey Buddy, silly question. Is everyone still going by milky trichomes as the ripening point at which to pick, or are some people just letting the plants go into Amber-colored trichomes to let them fatten up and get super-crystalized? In the eighties we would pick when all the hairs were dried up, which is a little early on some plants containing purples or Indica where the hairs die early and the bud then needs to continue for longer to get mature. I've used this book since 1981 when I was sixteen. We grew seeds from bags in the woods. Mexican, Colombian, and Thai. A friend borrowed my newer copy, grow equipment, and never returned my book. This book is moldy from another grower borrowing it over 30 years ago. He grew the first Ruderalis in 1983 and it was total shit-weed with no high whatsoever. No one knew yet about Ruderalis, and of course it's Russian shit-weed used in Auto-Flower now, which I'll never grow. Female-only seeds were a one-time purchase for me. Pure Ruderalis DID NOT GET YOU HIGH. Dude lost an entire season of woods-growing efforts cultivating garbage weed a foot tall.

 

[DonPetro]

Hey Buddy, silly question. Is everyone still going by milky trichomes as the ripening point at which to pick, or are some people just letting the plants go into Amber-colored trichomes to let them fatten up and get super-crystalized? In the eighties we would pick when all the hairs were dried up, which is a little early on some plants containing purples or Indica where the hairs die early and the bud then needs to continue for longer to get mature. I've used this book since 1981 when I was sixteen. We grew seeds from bags in the woods. Mexican, Colombian, and Thai. A friend borrowed my newer copy, grow equipment, and never returned my book. This book is moldy from another grower borrowing it over 30 years ago. He grew the first Ruderalis in 1983 and it was total shit-weed with no high whatsoever. No one knew yet about Ruderalis, and of course it's Russian shit-weed used in Auto-Flower now, which I'll never grow. Female-only seeds were a one-time purchase for me. Pure Ruderalis DID NOT GET YOU HIGH. Dude lost an entire season of woods-growing efforts cultivating garbage weed a foot tall. View attachment 3583649

Normally they will go from clear to milky then back to clear then amber. Get once they go from milky back to clear is my preference.