I agree, ~500W dissipation within a ~18" x ~12" frame isn't ideal, nor efficient although it's up in the air on whether or not people want to hang multiple, tiny lights in a grow space. The W90's actually reminded me of my ole' *Crowns*, but just a little prettier
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I don't know if large scale growers will want to hang multiple lights, but...
I'm not sure 'copying' is the right word. I think the emergence of modular LED designs is something that consumers have been asking for, and multiple companies are coming up with methods to do so.
Maybe small closet sized grows want smaller units but I think most of us want units that can cover equal size to a 600/1000w HID light aka 4x4 or 5x5 area not a 1x1 foot area that cost 4 grand to cover a 4x4. I won't bother with lights that can't cover at least a 3x3 area too much work to be bothered and too much money wasted you can just go to the junk yard buy a big scrap of metal and use that to make a DIY COB light for 1/4th the cost these ridiculous lights cost; really over premade LEDs until they can bring something to the table. These single COB units shouldn't cost more than 100 dollars anything more is just insane mark up they are mass producing these meaning they get the best prices on their cases , power supplies , fans, and LED diodes. Greedy is such an ugly thing makes something awesome like LEDs turn to overpriced door stops.
That will be an interesting thing to find out in the coming years, if across the full market "most of us" are mid-sized to larger growers, or whether a fast growing segment of the market is closet growers. Unless light manufacturers let us know their sales breakdown, we might not ever know.
Sounds like a bad investment to me, 4 grand to cover a 4x4 I could get plasma lights for less than that or build an indoor greenhouse attached to my house and use the sun and get like 10 times bigger area!!!
Have you ever priced it out yourself. I get about 95$ in parts. With no shipping to him from suppliers included.
I'm upset they are using gimmick sales tactics to mark up their profits so much, individual units cost more PERIOD. The lights you use are a prime example of this. I planned on buying a 4x4 area worth of LEDs from a51 but with these prices and dumb looking tiny units, no way.
So buy second rate LEDs because you want to mark up your product so much? No thanks. I'd rather stick to what I got and plan to build my own larger scale unit, not doing a closet grow here.@Yodaweed No one is holding a gun to your head telling you what to buy. Buy whatever you're most comfortable with.
CXB 3590s @ 700mA is a different thing than Vero 29s @ 2.15a. There will be a huge cost difference. You're acting like the CXBs are the only option.
Whatever, have a nice day!
Honestly, area-51 seems to have always targeted the closet grower. That's their niche, so of course their designs are going to implement features that closet growers are calling for. The large scale grower isn't really their niche and has a whole different set of requirements.
Yep when someone has something critical to say this is what this pussy does. Shows how good Area 51 customer service is. I had already bought something else cause your over priced lights took way past the date you told everyone they would be released... wasn't it april? Yeah and looking at your website they still not released good thing I got an extra 600w hps or my summer grow would have sucked.Buy something else.
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Your acting like they are the same base price. His margin is the same for either. Parts just cost more on the cxb version.