Organic Feeding 101.

[Darth Vapour]

Lol you been using mad cow compost? Because you sound mad bro. Shit, as if someone just step on your brand new Jordan's. Is it really that offensive to use tea....?

It would have been nice to have had prepared my soil like that. As close as you're gonna get earthly as possible. I get it. Shit you probably get your worms off amazon. If you don't well then, I just don't really have the time to stop on the side of the road, and dig up worms. My "sorry ass" has to settle for something convenient to me at this time. I have a small garden besides.

I used compost and my dirt. Maybe next time I do try and amend my soil for just water.

But wouldn't a brewed tea be better than bottled shit? Whatever though Darth Vapour I guess you told me. I really hope you're over 50. Cranky ass

lol i am not cranky lol i just find it ironic how so many people have issues with there plants in flower hence the tea craze Growing organically here is my flowering girl kicking ass with only water being used .. or my other plant that is 8 feet tall and pretty much the same wide and only mother nature taking care of her i do not give it nothing pretty much used my soil planted it watered it one time and walked away
amazon for worms lol actually were little bit bigger then that being family owns a botanic garden :
I was referring to the average grower that might not have 100 bucks+ for a pound of worms etc

 

[HeartIandhank]

Has anyone ever heard of or used MicroLife Organic Fertilizers? I picked up some MicroLife 6-2-4 and MicroGro Granular.. I have some plants in fox farm right now and planning to amend the fox farm with the 624 and MicroGro.. I figure the Ocean Forest will cover a few wks of veg and a few of flower,,, then the ML will finish them out..

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

Interested in seeing your results!^^^^^^

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

lol i am not cranky lol i just find it ironic how so many people have issues with there plants in flower hence the tea craze Growing organically here is my flowering girl kicking ass with only water being used .. or my other plant that is 8 feet tall and pretty much the same wide and only mother nature taking care of her i do not give it nothing pretty much used my soil planted it watered it one time and walked away
amazon for worms lol actually were little bit bigger then that being family owns a botanic garden :
I was referring to the average grower that might not have 100 bucks+ for a pound of worms etc View attachment 3466657View attachment 3466656

Nah you were raging on a topic that's open ended. Everyone learns in tnhere own way, someoe stepping on your new jordan's lmao almost pissed myself laughing!

 

[HeartIandhank]

I recently read the TLO book.. Great read.. In the edition I have he was ALL about the teas. But on the forum he frequents he now says he has eased off the teas as they cause more problems than they are worth when used often. He has a new edition coming out that will not push the teas as hard, it sounds like anyway..

I'm also having great results with just good ol' soil and water.. I have given nothing but water to my plants in ocean forest.. soon here I will upcan and amend with some organic 6-2-4 granular and do some spikes with bulb food (3-8-8 .. At a later date though I would like to avoid the fertilizer blends all together and just bake my own. Seems like a fun project that could teach me a lot.

Teas are fun to brew though.. I like to brew up a compost tea around the time I am planting in my raised beds.

 

[HeartIandhank]

@Darth Vapour , Did you mix your own soil for the container plant there or did you use a bagged mix? plants look great!

 

[HeartIandhank]

Sup folks.

I've been reasearching different ways of growing since 2010. Started in 2012. Joined here in 2013. Last two harvest have been the best for me so far. Kinda all becoming familiar.
Anyway, I've always used bottled nutes. Actually, last season was my first time using supersoil outdoors.

I've always used EarthJuice. My garden looks great. But the point is......

I've finally decided to go ahead and do AACT, but since I've started with bottled nutes should I just finish with them? For my veggies I use the Earthlink Bloom formula after using fox farm Grow Big. My Candyland I've used Grow Big since it's still Early Veg. I go by the bottle dosage per gallon. Everything has always turned white and soft ash.


So would it be to opposite sides to introduce a tea now oh and if I use a tea specific for mmj its good for vegetables too? I only have 2 mmj plants. And my one in coco.
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@TripleMindedGee5150

You do know the Grow Big is not organic, right? It uses a bit of edta if I remember right.
I'm no organic purist.. just asking as we are in the organic thread and I have talked with several people who were not aware that Grow Big is not alll organic. Same for Tiger Bloom.. Good stuff, not all organic though.

I like Fox Farm products.. good stuff.. the Reps in our area are really good people too.

 

[cannakis]

I recently read the TLO book.. Great read.. In the edition I have he was ALL about the teas. But on the forum he frequents he now says he has eased off the teas as they cause more problems than they are worth when used often. He has a new edition coming out that will not push the teas as hard, it sounds like anyway..

I'm also having great results with just good ol' soil and water.. I have given nothing but water to my plants in ocean forest.. soon here I will upcan and amend with some organic 6-2-4 granular and do some spikes with bulb food (3-8-8 .. At a later date though I would like to avoid the fertilizer blends all together and just bake my own. Seems like a fun project that could teach me a lot.

Teas are fun to brew though.. I like to brew up a compost tea around the time I am planting in my raised beds.

What forum?

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

http://gardeningwithcharlie.com/grow-ipm-organic-pest-controls.html

 

[HeartIandhank]

What forum?

I think you get banned on here for mentioning other forums.. but, ahh, fuck it.. skunkmag forums. His handle is something like Telroy### ?

Beware though.. while the Rev is totally cool, laid back and humble there are some seriously holier than thou fucks that frequent that forum. That place makes my face hurt when a few of the well known members start talking. I can't go over there anymore.. the egos of some of those folks are intense,

I wish the Rev would write a non mj version of his book.. I always want to recommend it to clients and customers at my place of work but I can't recommend an mj book to most of them.. the info is totally universal though. Not only MJ relevant..

 

[HeartIandhank]

yea, i always do my nute teas and my AACTs apart.
Also my SSTs are solely that too.
Course i haven't really had to use any nute teas in a while, i'm still workin on my dandelion/comfrey fpe i made last yr..
that thing goes sooooo long..
i made five gallons and i use a pint glass per 4 gallons, but the stuff is so damn good i don't have to hardly feed.

What kind of teas are you brewing up? Are your teas made for the purpose of feeding, introducing microbes, or both?

Are your teas your primary source of nutrients then? Is your soil pretty rich?

Just curious what you are up to.. I frequent another forum but everyone is pretty much comfy with synthetics (can't blame anyone for that).. I feel like I'm annoying them with all the organic chatter.. so I'm taking the organic open ended discussions elsewhere for a bit.

 

[cannakis]

I think you get banned on here for mentioning other forums.. but, ahh, fuck it.. skunkmag forums. His handle is something like Telroy### ?

Beware though.. while the Rev is totally cool, laid back and humble there are some seriously holier than thou fucks that frequent that forum. That place makes my face hurt when a few of the well known members start talking. I can't go over there anymore.. the egos of some of those folks are intense,

I wish the Rev would write a non mj version of his book.. I always want to recommend it to clients and customers at my place of work but I can't recommend an mj book to most of them.. the info is totally universal though. Not only MJ relevant..

Hahaha hell yeah! There you go brother FREEDOM OF PRESS!!!

Yeah I hear that though, ridiculous I like a Good Debate but everyone always has to get so offended by everyone GET OVER YPURSELF

 

[greasemonkeymann]

What kind of teas are you brewing up? Are your teas made for the purpose of feeding, introducing microbes, or both?

Are your teas your primary source of nutrients then? Is your soil pretty rich?

Just curious what you are up to.. I frequent another forum but everyone is pretty much comfy with synthetics (can't blame anyone for that).. I feel like I'm annoying them with all the organic chatter.. so I'm taking the organic open ended discussions elsewhere for a bit.

Honestly, after doing my amended compost, i really don't see the need for many teas.
I do an AACT if the soil gets duper dry, and i do one SST (about week three or four of flower), sometimes i get lazy and simply buy pure cocowater instead.
My amended compost is leaf mold, grass clippings, fish meal, neem meal, fish bone meal, a lil gypsum crab meal, insect meal, doghair/beard clipping (loongterm nitrogen) alfalfa meal, kelp meal, oyster flour..
All that up, let it compost, and by the time the leaves are all pure humus, the nutrients are all VERY available, and i swear iit's the easiest damn way to get the nicest herb ever.
been growing since 1989 and i wish i would have done this decades ago.
So damn easy.

 

[HeartIandhank]

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this spring i spread 200,000 tons of manure god dam wish i would of took pictures ...
same thing will apply in fall ,

amazes me when i look at my true organic garden in my back yard .. that i have never amended other then spring and fall dig culverts and place greens , grass clipping you name it and year after year our little personal garden grows a abundance of veggies same thing applies for this years MJ out door grow just ADD WATER

I was interested in the talk of just adding water with MJ plants.. but... would you really call spreading almost half a million tons of manure "just add water"?
Manure is rich in all kinds of microbial life, N P and K, micronutrients, minerals.. steer manure analysis is comparable to an unbelievably complete all organic fertilizer.. no?

I have heard the same thing about the Myco adding messing with the natural balance of microbial life... As I understand it Myco's take up a lot of "space".. making that space less available to other life. I'm no soil biologist.. but I did hear about that ^ from one.

That is pretty rad that you all bring in that much manure.. well done.. I bet you are doing great things out there.

 

[Darth Vapour]

well today took some shitty pictures of my out door plant mind you night temps have been -2 and 10 degrees last week n half no rain so yesterday as second time i ever flooded them with water lol ,, as yesterday n today temps are in the 18's plants have been in same soil 0 nutrients with only 2 top dresses all summer long grass clippings plant has been in same soil since may 5+ months pretty impressed as for bud size not that is due to mother nature but there not bad today saw major hair growth i pray for 2 weeks of good weather and it will be killer

PS: took couple buds off trimmed and drying the smell is out of this world i mean very strong so as buds are fair size there is also a shit load of em

 

[HeartIandhank]

So I decided to try out this product after a talk with the owner of the company.. It is called MicroGro Granular. It is an all organic biological inoculant. MicroLife is the company. I was interested in them as I saw that the University of Texas only uses microlife on their fields, campus, golf courses, everything.. Also, the stuff is used at several large zoos around the country as it is totally safe for animals to eat. The owner told me how he had to go before a panel of veternarians (sp?) to get approved to be used at zoos.. so the stuff is ultra safe even if ingested. Which as I am told does happen at the zoos..

About 1 wk after a top dressing of this stuff.. we have this.. I think next time I will go much, much lighter on the application.




This is from the MicroLife website.. What I have is actually the MicroGro Granular.. which is the bio inoculant discussed below but put on a humate carrier.. The MicroLife 624 put out quite a bit of "fuzz" as well.. but the microgro granular appears to be more diverse.. I can see different patches of different fuzz and fungi.. you can't really see it in the pic but I can see what looks like very very small mushrooms or large trichomes.. with a brownish stem and black "head" or "cap".. interesting stuff.. there is definitely something in this stuff. It does not contain myco though..

They also put this bio inoculant on a lawn fertilizer to gith fungal disease like brown patch and take all root rot on St Augstine.

MicroGro ‘Root Protector’ Bio Inoculant Water Soluble Powder

MicroGro ‘Anti-Disease ’Biological Inoculation goes into our MicroLife Brown Patch 5-1-3 and our MicroGro Granulars. It is designed primarily to protect plants from soil pathogens but will also stimulate plant growth and root development.

Contains 53 different strains of beneficial bacteria and fungi all with ‘anti-fungal’ properties. In addition to protecting the plant they also accelerate healthy growth. All of this is placed on a dry milk carrier loaded with highly nutritious microbial foods so they will rapidly grow in the soil. There are 600 billion CFU’s per lb that include the strongly effective microbes of Streptomycetes, Trichoderma and Pseudomonas.

 

[HeartIandhank]

Maybe I'm not in the right thread for just general discussion of organics? Should I be somewhere else with these kinds of posts?

 

[skunkwreck]

Maybe I'm not in the right thread for just general discussion of organics? Should I be somewhere else with these kinds of posts?

Glad to see you back man !

 

[HeartIandhank]

I've been lurking here and there.. just didn't have much to say for a while. Starting something new though with some organic grows.. it has been fun. Good to see ya.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

well today took some shitty pictures of my out door plant mind you night temps have been -2 and 10 degrees last week n half no rain so yesterday as second time i ever flooded them with water lol ,, as yesterday n today temps are in the 18's plants have been in same soil 0 nutrients with only 2 top dresses all summer long grass clippings plant has been in same soil since may 5+ months pretty impressed as for bud size not that is due to mother nature but there not bad today saw major hair growth i pray for 2 weeks of good weather and it will be killer

PS: took couple buds off trimmed and drying the smell is out of this world i mean very strong so as buds are fair size there is also a shit load of em View attachment 3517373View attachment 3517374 View attachment 3517376

yeah I bet those smell strong, for temps that low?
That's gotta do something for them, those look damn impressive, especially considering the huge temp issues you have