Thanks Obama!

[Rob Roy]

they lied to even get it passed so they could make millions from it..it should be free just like in canada but then that cuts the money out their pocket..i would never pay for it bc it was a crooked ass way to start it in the first place

How is it free? Do you mean it doesn't cost anything for you and others are forced to pay for it? Or do you mean free, like in it magically just happens?

 

[Kygiacomo]

How is it free? Do you mean it doesn't cost anything for you and others are forced to pay for it? Or do you mean free, like in it magically just happens?

ok guys i live in one the poorest parts of kentucky..no one around here ever had health care..when obamacare finally hit everone here was able to sign up thur state subsudies and if ur income is lower then 2k a month then u dont have to pay anything..everone else that i have spoke to online they say its shit and caused all their premiums to raise which is bogus and not right way to do things to all the other american people..and yes i dont have to pay nothing for it at all..

 

[ginwilly]

ok guys i live in one the poorest parts of kentucky..no one around here ever had health care..when obamacare finally hit everone here was able to sign up thur state subsudies and if ur income is lower then 2k a month then u dont have to pay anything..everone else that i have spoke to online they say its shit and caused all their premiums to raise which is bogus and not right way to do things to all the other american people..and yes i dont have to pay nothing for it at all..

I did homehealth in Hazzard and Hyden area years back (Mary Breckinridge if that means anything to you). It may have been a poor area, and I imagine with the coal wars it's only gotten worse, but I've never been treated better anywhere else in my life. I'd have daughters to meet, lunches ready and total appreciation for what I was doing. I absolutely loved the area if there would have been more to do. I had to drive to London or all the way to Lexington for serious entertainment.

Tell you how long ago it was. I watched Tim Couch play basketball at his high school. He was amazing.

 

[UncleBuck]

Ok, I'll give you a serious answer.

I don't see the benefit of praising a system that allows insurance companies/hospitals to screw other people to pay for you when a universal health care system costs 4x less per capita than the current US system.

Happy?

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.PCAP

ireland health care costs per capita: $3,708
US health care costs per capita: $8,895

learn to math, tiny dancer.

 

[UncleBuck]

You don`t understand what the mad scientist is saying to you.

Obama had come up with the perfect solution to Health Care. It was a Universal Federal Health plan that covered everyone and was not limited to individual States either. If you lived in Ma or NY, you were covered in Cali and Alaska hospitals too. It did not include the current insurance companies.

So Obama was visited by big insurance Lobbyists who said that his plan was going to put big insurance companies out of business because they could not compete with Obamacare1.0 !!

So they made him an offer he couldn`t refuse, What that was, well, Obama knows it.

NOW, Obamacare 2.0 has funneled the entire plan through current insurance companies that use some kind of exchange market BS and use your net pay as a method to determine your premium and coverage.


So Obama sold out each and every American citizen, and immigrant to big insurance companies so that his first draft, the universal health care system wouldn`t leave out and force big insurance companies to drop rates or go out of business.


Thanks Obama !i

nice conspiracy theory, but it was the GOP who railed against the public option and reduced any hopes of reform to mere romneycare, which got implemented.


dumbass.

 

[Kygiacomo]

I did homehealth in Hazzard and Hyden area years back (Mary Breckinridge if that means anything to you). It may have been a poor area, and I imagine with the coal wars it's only gotten worse, but I've never been treated better anywhere else in my life. I'd have daughters to meet, lunches ready and total appreciation for what I was doing. I absolutely loved the area if there would have been more to do. I had to drive to London or all the way to Lexington for serious entertainment.

Tell you how long ago it was. I watched Tim Couch play basketball at his high school. He was amazing.

im about 40 mins from hazard..its good folks that live in the applachia..the war on coal really hurt everthing here..it was a booming little place till they started shutting down all the coal mines..i moved away from here a few years back and i hated it...even though they arent much to do i just love it! one great thing about it is we can grow killer bud here..ky is ranked 2nd in the nation for total crop production cali is #1..i played against tim in high school basketball..he was a great player of both football and basketball..leslie county high..oh yea everone here will make sure u are fed good thats a tradition dating back as long as i can ever remember..like how in england if ppl like u they offer u tea,here it is food

 

[Rob Roy]

ok guys i live in one the poorest parts of kentucky..no one around here ever had health care..when obamacare finally hit everone here was able to sign up thur state subsudies and if ur income is lower then 2k a month then u dont have to pay anything..everone else that i have spoke to online they say its shit and caused all their premiums to raise which is bogus and not right way to do things to all the other american people..and yes i dont have to pay nothing for it at all..

Well thanks for answering.

So, if you don't have to pay for your healthcare do the people that provide it do it voluntarily (without pay) or is somebody forced to pay them to care for you?

 

[OddBall1st]

nice conspiracy theory, but it was the GOP who railed against the public option and reduced any hopes of reform to mere romneycare, which got implemented.


dumbass.

Does it F`n matter who it was that had the $$ in their eyes, the draft was Obama`s, well actually Romneycare re-written cleverly, but anyways the Dems could have said no because no was theirs to say. No conspiracy at all.

 

[UncleBuck]

Does it F`n matter who it was

since you spent paragraphs trying to formulate a conspiracy and blame it on obama, i'd say it matters to you, princess.

 

[OddBall1st]

since you spent paragraphs trying to formulate a conspiracy and blame it on obama, i'd say it matters to you, princess.

Well wouldn`t ya think that`s why I brought it up ? Both jumped at that and we got screwed...

Is that Al Sharpton behind Obama`s left shoulder eye`n Harriet Tubman`s pocket book ?

 

[UncleBuck]

Well wouldn`t ya think that`s why I brought it up ? Both jumped at that and we got screwed...

Is that Al Sharpton behind Obama`s left shoulder eye`n Harriet Tubman`s pocket book ?

another racist obsessed with al sharpton. imagine that.

 

[TBoneJack]

another racist obsessed with al sharpton. imagine that.

I honestly hadn't noticed. The fucking racist tax-dodging Al Sharpton, marching so close to our president. Wonderful message sent, Obama.

 

[abandonconflict]

I agree that the arbitrary rules could be applied arbitrarily by a prohibitionist like Hillary or whichever dickwadd the Republicans trot out there.

So you acknowledge that Obama is not a prohibitionist unlike presidents in recent history and therefore give credit where due.

 

[Harrekin]

So you acknowledge that Obama is not a prohibitionist unlike presidents in recent history and therefore give credit where due.

Obama is a "do nothing and hope to get the credit"-ist.

Saying otherwise proves nothing but your lack of objective thought.

 

[spandy]

Why, if health care is so fucking important to everyone, are they not taking the monthly expense out of everyone's tax credits if they are not already paying for a health plan?

If they didn't make enough in tax credits to cover their monthly payments, THEN lets give them some welfare health insurance, but not until they use up all their tax credits on health insurance. That way everyone has health insurance, it would be much more affordable for those who actually have to pay out of pocket with their own money, and the ones who abuse the system at best will just get free healthcare, instead of free tvs and new cars etc on the tax payers dime.

Tax payers are to support the infrastructure of the country, not help keep a bunch of dead weights above water that don't want to help pay their way for whatever their reason.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Giving credit where it is due.

I prefer the Republican stance over the Democratic regarding state's rights in the case of cannabis legalization. I am quite surprised that Obama receives so little credit for the fact that the federal government hasn't involved itself with the legalization of cannabis for recreational use in Colorado, Washington, Alaska and the District of Columbia. Several states, including California legalized medicinal use in the 90's but the federal government never changed it's stance until Obama directed his dawgs to lay off of state compliant patients and growers.

I really hope that this continues or better yet, that cannabis is rescheduled under the controlled substances act so that we won't have to worry if a GOP administration takes office. The remarkable thing is that it is a big government Democrat keeping the federal goons from raiding our gardens and we have every reason to worry that a GOP administration would reverse the policy even though state's rights is supposed to be a republican thing. This is evident in recent history.

Remember, federal law has not changed regarding cannabis and with as much effort as it takes to flick a booger, the executive branch could crack down.

 

[UncleBuck]

Why, if health care is so fucking important to everyone, are they not taking the monthly expense out of everyone's tax credits if they are not already paying for a health plan?

If they didn't make enough in tax credits to cover their monthly payments, THEN lets give them some welfare health insurance, but not until they use up all their tax credits on health insurance. That way everyone has health insurance, it would be much more affordable for those who actually have to pay out of pocket with their own money, and the ones who abuse the system at best will just get free healthcare, instead of free tvs and new cars etc on the tax payers dime.

Tax payers are to support the infrastructure of the country, not help keep a bunch of dead weights above water that don't want to help pay their way for whatever their reason.

you republicans voted almost unanimously not to improve repair or build infrastructure in this country actually.

 

[TBoneJack]

you are an idiot, murdoch. and very racist.

You're a laughing riot Buck. And you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Because:

1. I'm not an idiot.
2. I'm not murdoch.
3. I'm not a racist.

But I am slightly susceptable to cough due to cold.

 

[Harrekin]

Why, if health care is so fucking important to everyone, are they not taking the monthly expense out of everyone's tax credits if they are not already paying for a health plan?

If they didn't make enough in tax credits to cover their monthly payments, THEN lets give them some welfare health insurance, but not until they use up all their tax credits on health insurance. That way everyone has health insurance, it would be much more affordable for those who actually have to pay out of pocket with their own money, and the ones who abuse the system at best will just get free healthcare, instead of free tvs and new cars etc on the tax payers dime.

Tax payers are to support the infrastructure of the country, not help keep a bunch of dead weights above water that don't want to help pay their way for whatever their reason.

Taxpayers here cover everyone's medical bills and it still costs 4x less than the US system.

People who can afford pay a maximum of €1000 (1100 dollars) per year to cover long term hospital stays/ inpatient treatment and people who are broke pay nothing, ever, zero.

I'd never spite someone their health to pay a slightly lower tax bill.

 

[Rob Roy]

So you acknowledge that Obama is not a prohibitionist unlike presidents in recent history and therefore give credit where due.

No. He could have scrapped the silly controlled drug schedule the first day his ass landed in D.C. Many, many people have been jailed, had their dogs shot and their property stolen, because he went golfing instead of freeing the drug war slaves.

He is less of a douche than what some of the other douches might have been regarding weed, that doesn't mean he isn't still a douche. I assume you've never shit on a floor at a fast food establishment have you?