giving defoliation during flower a try

Jimdamick

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GREAT, you just stole all the energy from your buds. Will you have buds? Sure. Could you have had better buds? No doubt !!!!! Why rape a girl who is already giving you pussy?
Why rape a girl who is already giving you pussy? Some analogy. Anyway, I grow in tight spaces and at the end of growth/first couple of weeks of bloom, I trim out large fans that block light to bud sites. ONLY fans above bud. Tell me I'm a idiot, and I'll say, blow me.
 

Cannasutraorganics

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Your Infiniti's wheels would fall off before my Lexus ran out of gas. :mrgreen:

Have you ever seen a LFA? Holy crap! They are custom built from scratch. If you want your grand dad's plaid shirt fabric for your seats, you can get it. Even the engine is "hand made", right down to the fine tuning of the exhaust hum. V10 that revs from idle to 9,000 RPM in 0.6 seconds.
http://www.lexus.com/models/LFA/
You are NOT a gear head. So stop it. Revs to 9000 in.6 seconds? What true car guy would say that? Runs 0 to 60 in .... Quarter mile times of.... Your better at lying about your weed, stick to that.
 

Cannasutraorganics

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I got a speed shop right outside the cape. What kind of Infiniti a g37s sport or the new q50s?? Lexus aren't made for speed they are luxury cars except 1 car being the lfa. I got a 2005 is300 with a 2jz-gte swap with a garette twin ball bearing t-56 in it that will blow away whatever Infiniti u got lol. Team Lexus in the building.
Non of you guys cars are yours. You didn't build it. Gear heads build speed, chicks buy it.
 

Cannasutraorganics

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Yeah that pic looks good, but so what since you used miracle gro and I use better nutrients that are more expensive that means your shit is better I dont think so. Guarantee my stuff burns and tastes better 100% wayyyy cleaner. MG is full of toxins and heavy metals and shit burns like charcoal, and gives you migraines and headaches I would never smoke that bs knowing it was grown in MG.

The owner Scott coming out w his own MJ specific nutrient line for that reason he did an interview talking about why you shouldn't use his base nutrients for medical cannabis and that he coming out with better specific nutrient for medical purposes right now (might already be out idk) not interested either way but maybe u are idk. GL
They don't believe you get headaches from it. Because their heads are empty.
 

chuck estevez

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Non of you guys cars are yours. You didn't build it. Gear heads build speed, chicks buy it.
you should buy a car that might get you a girl, then you won't be so negative and hateful all the time. It is amazing what some pussy can do for your attitude. and grow some better weed, that will help with that too.
 

Jimdamick

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Note to self - "stop responding to the never ending newbie misguided defoliation threads and those who think they understand plant processes but don't."
So, I think I asked this before Uncle Ben. You have grown indoors, with an average spacing of 2' between stalks, not leaves, whether it be soil or hydro, and you advise against removing leaves? Bull Shit.
 

Cannasutraorganics

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This^^^^^^is exactly why it pisses me off, when pkpoosted keeps claiming GH's floraseries sucks, compared to his magical nutrient bases he loves so dearly.
Sure the floraseries is overpriced(imo, all liquid nutes are). It, as far as I know, wasn't created for
Cannabis growers. But is fully customizeable. Why would that make it worse than the ones he loves?
I don't get it.
SAME FUCKING SALTS!
Biocanna isn't salt nute based. Try again...
 

Cannasutraorganics

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study this and then tell me HOW does the bud get this "chemical" taste from a nutrient?

You are stupid. And not just a little. Everything in the soil gets passed through the plant. Some stays and some doesn't. All chelates are chemicals. They stay attached to the plant to slowly release the nutes it was designed to carry. The chelate adds the taste and other things. Now go read a book, if you can. Because you haven't learned anything yet....
 

chuck estevez

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You are stupid. And not just a little. Everything in the soil gets passed through the plant. Some stays and some doesn't. All chelates are chemicals. They stay attached to the plant tEverythingo slowly release the nutes it was designed to carry. The chelate adds the taste and other things. Now go read a book, if you can. Because you haven't learned anything yet....
yeah, salts go right into the plant, shut up stupid, go get laid and quit being so bitter, or are you just so ugly, no girl will have you? They have pros for that. but you probably can't afford one because no one will buy that crap you grow.
 

pk_boosted2

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That plant was grown in living organic soil.

I was just fucking with Mr hydro store owner
How are you fuckin
Earlier you said that if you can't get 2 lbs from a 1000 watt light then you're no good at growing. Now you're saying its all genetics..... except for thc %, which is completely determined by the nutrient line that you use.

Sound about right? :dunce:
Yes 2 lbs a light is what u aim for, some strains cant produce 2 per light because of genetics like some OG crosses and most of the girl scout cookies phenos. Thats not what im referring too smart ass. Most strains are able to produce 2 lbs per light or 400-600 grams per sq/m on average indoors. Some strains such as gigabuds and some big bud crosses are known to produce 700-900 gram per sq/m but thats hard to achieve without commercial facility. So hitting the 2 lbs per light is considered to be master grower, and is the gold standard for growing. If u hit 2 per light than you are in that category of knowing what youre doing because less than id say 5-10% of growers can do that consistently run after run.

And yes the nutrients have a direct impact on the ability to reach a strains potential based on genetics. Strains that claim they can produce 20+ thc content from seed or clone can be achieved given the proper climate, light and most important nutrients; when you use shitty nutrients that dont provide the plant its essential elements youre thc content and production of cbd, cbn terpenes etc.. decresases exponentially. Nutrients have a direct impact on not only the quality of flowers, but also on colors, taste, smell and aromas. Using clean, formulated nutrients that are chelated and properly developed for optimal plant uptake have a direct impact on results.

Products such as dyna gro are one of those products that are inferior to canna or advanced or (GH) even though i think and many agree that GH are mid tear nutrients as well. Dyna gro nor miracle gro or peters whatever fuck its called will not produce the same amount of yield nor quality provided light and environment are in ideal target ranges that canna or advanced is capable of doing. Theres been many studies done on it and this is absolutely true and other nutrient lines included. Im not gonna sit here and name them all because theres a ton of shitty nutrient lines on the market im just using that as an example because some morons on here think its actually good nutrients when thats absolutely not the case.
 

chuck estevez

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funny, showed some big growers my GSC yesterday, they said, you grow this with just jack's classic, I said, i use the citrus feed ,some humic and fulvic, same barrel for veg and for bloom, they were blown away and are now trying it, so fuck you and your shitty nutes theory. same boston Bullshit.
 

pk_boosted2

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funny, showed some big growers my GSC yesterday, they said, you grow this with just jack's classic, I said, i use the citrus feed ,some humic and fulvic, same barrel for veg and for bloom, they were blown away and are now trying it, so fuck you and your shitty nutes theory. same boston Bullshit.
Oh yeah i bet jacks classic is awesome nutrients i sell so much of it at my store its crazy everyone wants it.
 

pk_boosted2

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funny, showed some big growers my GSC yesterday, they said, you grow this with just jack's classic, I said, i use the citrus feed ,some humic and fulvic, same barrel for veg and for bloom, they were blown away and are now trying it, so fuck you and your shitty nutes theory. same boston Bullshit.
Jacks classic was a good nutrient for people growing back in the 80s and 90s it dont compare to canna or advanced for growing what we are doing. It works and i know people who use it but once they pony up and pay for real nutes made for the shit they dont go back.
 

pk_boosted2

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Before companies started making cannabis specific plant foods everyone thought that shit was great, its not anymore theres way better shit on the market specifically for what ur doing, unless u dont wanna pay for results and ur happy w what u get using that shit bcuz its so cheap.

Thats the only argument u can make is price. But when u compensate yield and quality into paying a few more dollars for better nutrients why wouldnt u pay more? Id never use the stuff but thats me. You got your opinion, and i have mine. Theres nothing wrong w. either thats ur personal preference and your opinion. Some people also think that acuras are expensive hondas and guess what to an extent thats true but when u pay for a better performin and more comfortable car its worth the money. Same goes for nutrients, you pay for what you get.
 

chuck estevez

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Theres more profit in jacks, dyna gro and miracle gro bcuz u can buy in bulk i make over 100% on those companies, i make 40-50% on advanced an h&g i would rather everyone bought GH or jacks or dyna gro id be killing it
I know that is complete bullshit. You can sell a bag of grow more 20-20-20, 25lbs for $40 and even a 25 bag of hardener for another $40 for the feel good bunch. a jug of jacks wholesale is about $5 and sells for about $10
you sell advanced at 50% mark up times 10 bottles.
 

chuck estevez

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Before companies started making cannabis specific plant foods everyone thought that shit was great, its not anymore theres way better shit on the market specifically for what ur doing, unless u dont wanna pay for results and ur happy w what u get using that shit bcuz its so cheap.

Thats the only argument u can make is price. But when u compensate yield and quality into paying a few more dollars for better nutrients why wouldnt u pay more? Id never use the stuff but thats me. You got your opinion, and i have mine. Theres nothing wrong w. either thats ur personal preference and your opinion. Some people also think that acuras are expensive hondas and guess what to an extent thats true but when u pay for a better performin and more comfortable car its worth the money. Same goes for nutrients, you pay for what you get.
No, just stupid people that fall for cannabis specific nutes and the sales asses that push them, A REAL grower knows cannabis is strain specific in it's nute requirements. you are just not a REAL grower, you need a chart and feed schedule to help you
 
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