Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!
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Shwagbag
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Lol... I will pass on the fungus gnats and the root aphids. Although they can be part of living organic soil, I would prefer to stick with beneficial micro organisms as opposed to pests without natural predators in an indoor environment. If you encounter these pests in nature, things can work themselves out, but even in my outdoor vegetable garden I have to take preventative and reactive measures to combat organisms that are not beneficial to the plants' well being and are not inviting to natural predators.
Damn root aphids - I nailed them with nematodes and Botanigard. It helped, but root aphids are nasty little creatures! Fungus gnats, they are easy to eliminate, but root aphids are as stubborn or more stubborn than mites.
Damn root aphids - I nailed them with nematodes and Botanigard. It helped, but root aphids are nasty little creatures! Fungus gnats, they are easy to eliminate, but root aphids are as stubborn or more stubborn than mites.
canadiankushman
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Pattahabi, what do you use against pests? I've gone the route of using ladybugs but they don't seem to sick around much, and I cant seem to source nematodes..
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Pattahabi
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Canadian, can you be more specific when you say pests? I rely a lot on stacking functions. Layering my pest management to constantly deter pests. It also varies depending on the stage of the game the plant is in. ie a veg plant, or a 6 week flowering plant. Generally speaking, I don't think lady bugs do much for pest management. At least that is my anecdotal evidence.
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canadiankushman
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I guess I'm referring to the usual suspects, root aphids, fungus gnats, spider mites, ect..
I can also confirm that ladybugs, alone, do squat to stop an outbreak.
Pattahabi
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Imo, once you have an outbreak, then you are in disaster recovery type situation lol. It happens. If it is mites, make sure you hit them hard every three days, 3-4 times to break the cycle.
Root aphids I don't really worry about at this point. I'll let you know if that changes, but I have had root aphids when I was doing super soils. I have not with a living organic soil. The way I see it, Rock dust = pest deterrent, crab meal = chitin = builds plants SAR (basically an immune system for pests and disease) makes the plant produce chitinase. Neem meal disrupts reproductive cycle of pests. SST's contain chitinase. I try to hit them from all directions.
For bugs on the foliage, I generally rotate mild to more severe doses of botanicals and karanaja/neem. Thrips I use spinosad. I don't worry too much about fungus gnats. They seem to come and go. I suppose if I was worried about it, I would get some h. miles, nematodes, etc, or maybe some BT bacteria. I've not used predators other then lady bugs, but I have been eyeing a couple I might throw in this fall.
Staying ahead of the game is key imo!
Peace!
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mmmmm....pests. have a clean and sealed grow.....shower with bastille soap and put on clean clothes before entering room. never skip these steps...ever. never let anyone else see your grow...ever....if these steps alone don't prevent pests in you indoor grow....you be sloppy. its not hard to keep them out....just don't let them in, root aphids? lol.....if these have an affect on your grow then your plants are straight up weak and not all natural. mites? shut your shit down after harvest for a few weeks....if this is a problem then your priorities are skewed and you need to let grow of greed....its rreal easy to get rid of pests, you just got to be willing to start over.
TheWaterBoy
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I'll triple 'facepalm' that... Ignorant!
Julius Caesar
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I would like to know what is in FFOF that tends to burn clones, yet when I compost my own super-soil recipe I get no burn although my soil surely has more additives than Ocean Forest. Surely the composted in the bag sitting in the store. So what is the ingredient that is causing nute burn?
st0wandgrow
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Synthetically derived urea is what I was told. Apparently that is why they do not have an "organic" certification for ocean forrest any more
buckaroo bonzai
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urine stow.......
--but whos?
vegan?
meat pooper?
lots of urea in milorganite......
-same type....
It is composed of heat-dried microbes that have digested the organic matter in wastewater.
http://www.milorganite.com/Using-Milorganite/What-is-It.aspx
skywalkerAK
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I just put 18 critical kush clones into straight up ffof mixed with 30% perlite and didn't burn one of them. Did the same with 17 skywalker clones and didn't burn and I'm going to do the same with 18 ak48 clones. Not sure why you keep burning up u r plants.
shannonball
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1:1 Happy Frog and FFOF. not need to add any nutrients for at least 4 weeks. sometimes even longer.
AllenHaze
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For people who are just starting organic gardening, buying a bag of ffof can be much less expensive then the start up costs of building your own soil. How many of us started with ocean forest but have since moved on? The first time I smelled a bag of OF I fell in love with organics and immediately set out to expand upon my understanding of what it was in the soil that made it smell so good. In that regard, I can see the value of keeping this thread open. 