Black Folks and Aids

UncleBuck

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lmao none those cities even have 100 murders a year u shoulda used detroit.. woulda been better for u. we had a hand in fukkin detroit up to our gangs all over there
quantity doesn't matter, rate does.

if you got a pound from 600 watts and a pound from 2000 watts, would you feel the same way?
 

Glaucoma

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Compared with other racial/ethnic groups, AI/AN ranked fifth in estimated rates of HIV infection diagnoses in 2011, with lower rates than in blacks/African Americans, Hispanics/Latinosb, Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders, and people reporting multiple races, but higher rates than in Asians and whites.

Says they come 5th, lower than African Americans.

Wanna try again? Or are you gonna argue that Indians are better off than blacks in this country?

Edit: wait a min now. If Indians come in lower than blacks and higher than whites.. how are blacks getting 8x the infection rate of whites??
 

theexpress

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Compared with other racial/ethnic groups, AI/AN ranked fifth in estimated rates of HIV infection diagnoses in 2011, with lower rates than in blacks/African Americans, Hispanics/Latinosb, Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders, and people reporting multiple races, but higher rates than in Asians and whites.

Says they come 5th, lower than African Americans.

Wanna try again? Or are you gonna argue that Indians are better off than blacks in this country?
ill take casino money over a link card n obama phone anyday.
 

theexpress

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lets see it then cuzz even if they did thers no guarenty most them niggas gonna be goons like u see here
unless u moved chis pop. to memphis. and if u moved our pop. to somewere hot everday like phx ud see well over 1k murders a year like it was the 90s again. we kill each othrt for sport wen its hot out so please keep tellin me about a city u never been to and im from
 

Glaucoma

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In any case, Buck. The very link you gave me clearly states "Overall, the effect of HIV infection on AI/AN is proportional to their US population size."

So.. ? Just talking out of your ass and hoping I wouldn't actually click the link or what?

You clearly didn't read it or you wouldn't have linked it. You probably just saw them as #1 with needle transmissions and called it done, huh?

Worthless, race baiting hack.
 
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UncleBuck

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Compared with other racial/ethnic groups, AI/AN ranked fifth in estimated rates of HIV infection diagnoses in 2011, with lower rates than in blacks/African Americans, Hispanics/Latinosb, Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders, and people reporting multiple races, but higher rates than in Asians and whites.

Says they come 5th, lower than African Americans.

Wanna try again? Or are you gonna argue that Indians are better off than blacks in this country?

Edit: wait a min now. If Indians come in lower than blacks and higher than whites.. how are blacks getting 8x the infection rate of whites??
let's talk SES of native americans.

  • African American children are three times more likely to live in poverty than Caucasian children. American Indian/Alaska Native, Hispanic, Pacific Islander, and Native Hawaiian families are more likely than Caucasian and Asian families to live in poverty (Costello, Keeler, & Angold, 2001; National Center for Education Statistics, 2007).


  • In 2005, the high school dropout rate of Latinos was highest, followed by those of African Americans and American Indians/Alaska Natives (National Center for Education Statistics, 2007).


  • Socioeconomic status and race/ethnicity have been associated with avoidable procedures, avoidable hospitalizations, and untreated disease (Fiscella, Franks, Gold, & Clancy, 2008).

http://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/factsheet-erm.aspx


there is more to SES than whatever completely undefined metric you are using ad hoc.
 

Glaucoma

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I'm using the metrics you gave me in your link from the CDC.
let's talk SES of native americans.

  • African American children are three times more likely to live in poverty than Caucasian children. American Indian/Alaska Native, Hispanic, Pacific Islander, and Native Hawaiian families are more likely than Caucasian and Asian families to live in poverty (Costello, Keeler, & Angold, 2001; National Center for Education Statistics, 2007).
If we are talking about Indians, why are you showing me a line where the only number is shown for blacks?


  • In 2005, the high school dropout rate of Latinos was highest, followed by those of African Americans and American Indians/Alaska Natives (National Center for Education Statistics, 2007).
more shit that doesn't add any value to your argument.
Socioeconomic status and race/ethnicity have been associated with avoidable procedures, avoidable hospitalizations, and untreated disease (Fiscella, Franks, Gold, & Clancy, 2008).

http://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/factsheet-erm.aspx


there is more to SES than whatever completely undefined metric you are using ad hoc.
So then why don't you post these relevant metrics you fucking hack?

Indians: "Overall, the effect of HIV infection on AI/AN is proportional to their US population size."
  • African Americans accounted for an estimated 44% of all new HIV infections among adults and adolescents (aged 13 years or older) in 2010, despite representing only 12% of the US population; considering the smaller size of the African American population in the United States, this represents a population rate that is 8 times that of whites overall.
44% of all new infections when you are only 12% of the population is fucking staggering. Latinos come in next, with 21% of new infections while they are 16% of the population.

Indians, they say, are average. Whatever that means (compared to whites?). Why aren't they even on the board? They should be right up there with blacks and hispanics, right? Oh, "my" ad hoc SES metrics. That's right.

Let's see what other BS spews from your keyborad next, idiot.

waaaahhhh.. everyone is racist!
 

Glaucoma

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I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a disease which we don't know enough about to cure might hold a few surprises.
 

UncleBuck

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I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a disease which we don't know enough about to cure might hold a few surprises.
there's nothing surprising about how AIDS affects lower SES (that involves income, education, access to health care, etcetera) populations at a greater rate than higer SES populations.

remind me again, when was the last time you heard of an AIDS epidemic in a wealthy population regardless of race?
 

UncleBuck

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I'm using the metrics you gave me in your link from the CDC.

If we are talking about Indians, why are you showing me a line where the only number is shown for blacks?

more shit that doesn't add any value to your argument.


So then why don't you post these relevant metrics you fucking hack?

Indians: "Overall, the effect of HIV infection on AI/AN is proportional to their US population size."
  • African Americans accounted for an estimated 44% of all new HIV infections among adults and adolescents (aged 13 years or older) in 2010, despite representing only 12% of the US population; considering the smaller size of the African American population in the United States, this represents a population rate that is 8 times that of whites overall.
44% of all new infections when you are only 12% of the population is fucking staggering. Latinos come in next, with 21% of new infections while they are 16% of the population.

Indians, they say, are average. Whatever that means (compared to whites?). Why aren't they even on the board? They should be right up there with blacks and hispanics, right? Oh, "my" ad hoc SES metrics. That's right.

Let's see what other BS spews from your keyborad next, idiot.

waaaahhhh.. everyone is racist!
seems about on par with SES statistics across populations to me.
 

Glaucoma

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there's nothing surprising about how AIDS affects lower SES (that involves income, education, access to health care, etcetera) populations at a greater rate than higer SES populations.

remind me again, when was the last time you heard of an AIDS epidemic in a wealthy population regardless of race?
Way to ignore the entire point, idiot. So where are the Indians? Are they all wealthy now? Good for them! I'm sure they'll be happy to know that.

Fucking hack.

It's idiots like you who slow down medical progress just because it may lead down a road you don't find comfortable, even though there is absolutely no reason to be uncomfortable. Much like the right wing bible thumpers and their issues with stem cell research.
 

UncleBuck

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Way to ignore the entire point, idiot. So where are the Indians? Are they all wealthy now? Good for them! I'm sure they'll be happy to know that.

Fucking hack.

It's idiots like you who slow down medical progress just because it may lead down a road you don't find comfortable, even though there is absolutely no reason to be uncomfortable. Much like the right wing bible thumpers and their issues with stem cell research.
native americans are lower SES and more affected by AIDS than higher SES races. i don't see the discrepancy here.

i don't see how i'm "slowing down medical progress" by pointing out the same obvious things that the CDC and others are pointing out.

seems like you're just cranky because you can't blame this on race rather than non-race related factors.
 

Glaucoma

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native americans are lower SES and more affected by AIDS than higher SES races. i don't see the discrepancy here.
READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK IDIOT.
"Overall, the effect of HIV infection on AI/AN is proportional to their US population size."

i don't see how i'm "slowing down medical progress" by pointing out the same obvious things that the CDC and others are pointing out.

seems like you're just cranky because you can't blame this on race rather than non-race related factors.
waaahhhhhh!!!! everyone is racist!!

So, the CDC points out that Indians are no worse off than average, yet you contend that they are low on the SES scale, and SES is to blame for infection rates.

Fucking brilliant. God damn you really are fucking stupid.
 

UncleBuck

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How is that a reply to anything I said in that post? Are you really this fucking stupid?
you really didn't say anything in your post.

you tried to hold up native americans as some sort of counterexample to the connection between SES and AIDS rates. the problem is that native americans are not some sort of outlier.

whites and asians are highest SES and underrepresented when it comes to rates of AIDS. blacks and hispanics are lower SES and most over represented. the small population of native americans are also low SES and somewhere in the middle.

if yo are trying to make a point, i have no idea what it is.
 
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