Effect of Defoliation on Yield - Skywalker OG indoor scrog

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Maine Buds

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I would be interested in the result my self. I defoliate but only take leaves that are directly blocking light. I took a bunch of leaves off a few plants one time and the harvest was crap. Im sure it was because of heat. I don't see why such a subject is so heated. Respect the thread . You have something to say that's not about the subject just start another thread. Simple simple. I hate when someone starts and experiment but then the thread gets abandoned cause testosterone is fueling argument around here. Everyone should just chill and smoke a little herb. After all we're just trying to learn!
 

Uncle Ben

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No shit, shame on him. (Well put!) Sheesh, it's the internet for Christ's sake.

You have a lot of nerve threatening to ban me for talking about anything I choose. That is truly saddening. Get a grip, you ban anyone even though they have done nothing, All you are is a sad little bitch. Ban me and you just prove everything I have said. What happened to this site where a pipsqueak can tell people who to talk to. It is not a coincidence that you are always in battle and have to kick people out of your precious forum. You should be defoliated. We are in America and on a website about herb, so what if I talk about something else for a moment, people get distracted. The irony is you banning me would absolutely have zero affect......this thread is secondhand news and everybody is bored with it. Your little warning is a death rattle that cant be heard because the leaves are thick enough to block out crybabies. Ban me......I dare you. If you cared about knowledge you would be wise to leave me be. Shame on you.
Yep, knowing this place if he was smart he would have done a journal with photos over time, THEN, published the results AFTER the fact. That's what I did with the Griffin's Spin-Out thread many moons ago at OG, which was edited and formatted by a senior mod, and then posted for all to see. Instead, this attention whore comes in here knowing full well this is one of the most heated topics between the horticultural guys and noobs who are hell bent on trends and tricks, and after the uproar wants everyone silenced that disagrees with his approach.

Can't have it both ways Oscar. Burgertime2010 nailed you to the floor.
 

dodgydan

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defoliation is like shaving your pubes to cut a long story short. You dont want a big bush but you dont want your shit bald
someone convinced me to continue the thread
I will do it on one condition:

everyone that values this thread agrees to block or ignore the following members:

caretakerdad
chuck esteves
Uncle Ben
woody333333
dodgydan

others may be warned that they will be added to this list.

if you don't put them on your ignore list, at least don't respond to their posts. they will get bored and fuck off. I am sure that we can do our own research on the pros and cons, but we already know there isn't much in the way of actual research that has been done on this question. if there were, I wouldn't be doing this thread.

put up good info that you find even if it doesn't point to increasing yields or other desirable results.
we don't need their input. they have an agenda and they are just clogging up the thread with insults and bullshit.

bullshit posts trying to bait us into arguments will be deleted
thats not very nice I only posted one thing as a joke... youv gone and hurt my feelings now
 

neo12345

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Now THAT is how you do a scientific experiment Oscar, notice the men and women walking around in lab coats and safety specs. In the space age lab, with highly calibrated bottles of wine.

You should be growing from seed too and not using clones, as we all know that plants grown from seeds are exactly the same and clones can vary wildly.

Growing different varieties will help you get better results too, because you can just pick a better yielding plant to go up against your one control plant.

The one control plant that you have should also be a random seed that you have no idea as to what it is, this is not very important to be able to make comparisons as you don't have to show the pic of the finished control plant anyway so don't worry.

Then show us the one good plant you have, and only photograph the top section of the plant. Don't show the yellow immature buds below that which were not getting any light under that thick canopy, the ones that are not usable for anything more than bubble hash.

You've spent the last few days telling us that Oscar's experiment is not valid because it's not being done in a high tech lab, yet your own experiment is so full of holes it's laughable. It's got more holes than a Smart Pot!!

When questioned about the possible effect on health of using such a chemical in a plant that is smoked and ingested, you tried to convince everyone that it's perfectly safe based on your own personal theory about it!!

At least Oscar is risking nothing but his own personal yield by doing this experiment, and good luck to him I say.
 

CaretakerDad

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Now THAT is how you do a scientific experiment Oscar, notice the men and women walking around in lab coats and safety specs. In the space age lab, with highly calibrated bottles of wine.

You should be growing from seed too and not using clones, as we all know that plants grown from seeds are exactly the same and clones can vary wildly.

Growing different varieties will help you get better results too, because you can just pick a better yielding plant to go up against your one control plant.

The one control plant that you have should also be a random seed that you have no idea as to what it is, this is not very important to be able to make comparisons as you don't have to show the pic of the finished control plant anyway so don't worry.

Then show us the one good plant you have, and only photograph the top section of the plant. Don't show the yellow immature buds below that which were not getting any light under that thick canopy, the ones that are not usable for anything more than bubble hash.

You've spent the last few days telling us that Oscar's experiment is not valid because it's not being done in a high tech lab, yet your own experiment is so full of holes it's laughable. It's got more holes than a Smart Pot!!

When questioned about the possible effect on health of using such a chemical in a plant that is smoked and ingested, you tried to convince everyone that it's perfectly safe based on your own personal theory about it!!

At least Oscar is risking nothing but his own personal yield by doing this experiment, and good luck to him I say.


REALLY NEO ??????

Allow me to be the first to inform you that your opening statement is a monumental testament to your ignorance. Clones by their very nature are EXACT GENETIC DUPLICATES of the mother they are taken from. I can show you 2 groups of clones one Trainwreck (12) and the other G-13 (20) they are identical in every way including their height and structure with some slight variation for the amount of sunlight each plant gets. Seeds on the other hand are products of 2 randomly selected sets of genetic markers from each parent and EVERY SINGLE SEED will show some variation. This would be 2 to 10,000 seeds from the same plant........all slightly (and some greatly) different. Please stop riding without a helmet.:fire:
 

neo12345

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REALLY NEO ??????

Allow me to be the first to inform you that your opening statement is a monumental testament to your ignorance. Clones by their very nature are EXACT GENETIC DUPLICATES of the mother they are taken from. I can show you 2 groups of clones one Trainwreck (12) and the other G-13 (20) they are identical in every way including their height and structure with some slight variation for the amount of sunlight each plant gets. Seeds on the other hand are products of 2 randomly selected sets of genetic markers from each parent and EVERY SINGLE SEED will show some variation. This would be 2 to 10,000 seeds from the same plant........all slightly (and some greatly) different. Please stop riding without a helmet.
Yes I think you missed the sarcastic nature of my post, do you think I wasn't obvious enough? :shock:

If you'd been paying attention to this thread you would have noticed that Uncle Ben's experiment was from seed, and Oscar is using clones. So really you should be giving Uncle Ben that information.

No need to apologise, we all jump to the keyboard too fast sometimes.
 

OscarLaGrouch

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Its ego
They probably cant find their dicks with a mirror.
I would be interested in the result my self. I defoliate but only take leaves that are directly blocking light. I took a bunch of leaves off a few plants one time and the harvest was crap. Im sure it was because of heat. I don't see why such a subject is so heated. Respect the thread . You have something to say that's not about the subject just start another thread. Simple simple. I hate when someone starts and experiment but then the thread gets abandoned cause testosterone is fueling argument around here. Everyone should just chill and smoke a little herb. After all we're just trying to learn!
 

OscarLaGrouch

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I just defol'd my other plants in Week 7. I started from the bottom and took out every think underneath.
I took out everything crowding the colas. That way i avoid the risk of bud rot on my fat gorgeous colas. I also provided great light penetration to the lower flowers for the last three weeks. All the leaves that are remaining can continue to power the frost explosion happening right now. I also reduce the amount of leaf material i have to remove at chop. As well as reduce the number of leaves rhe plants have to drain nutrients from during flush. Nice tasty buds that will dry to a white ash without the buildup of minerals messing up the taste.
How its done. The best way.
 
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