my first cheap plant lol

ive grown before but never with such shit equipment before lol so far my plant cost me $0 but its time she gets pampered lol im pretty sure she is stivia on account of her being so lengthy with little bushyness but ive noticed that her lower leaves have been wilting and falling ive already lost my firts singular leafs and the second set of 3 leafs...i figure its just my shit light not reaching to them so i added another light to help the lower leafs...anyway its the 5th day of 12/12 and im wondering what would be a good fertilizer or miricale grow to give her so i can get some nice buds also maybe some feed back on my dying lower leaf problem

get a bigger light you will never grow anything worth smoking with that setup. your plant is so lanky because it does not have enough light. it is not going to produce anything.you are just wasting your time and setting yourself up for a disappointment. get a small 150w hps online you can find them for under $100.

I can't really see on my computer but are those cfls? If not i would go ahead and buy the biggest you can for the money you have, at least 2-42 watts 6000k...maybe like $20.I think it could be a sativa but the excessive stretch is probably due to the light IMO. How old is she? Maybe you can think about doing a little LST on it, might could benefit a good bit. And feed is fertilizer, nutrients, nutes...and miracle grow is supposed to be really bad, but if you do use it work up to your maximum amount (I wouldn't go over 1/4 of what the label says) and do a flush before harvest. Hope this helps...deuces

shes only 36 days old with 5 days on 12/12 so for hps do i need to buy a new light ficure to or do they work in a normal light? whats a light i could buy where i only need to buy a bulb or get the whole light thats under $120

also i thought hps were red spectrum would i still need a clf for the blue spectrum? n nobody dis my location lol bathroom fan is perfect for air circulation lol

for 36 days she should be much bushier and bigger here is a link to a great light for what you need. yes an hps needs a ballast to strike the bulb every time you turn it on this unit is complete all you will need to do is plug it in. check out this website if you want to spend a bit more $ get a bigger light. more watts=more yield.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-FLORALUX-150w-HPS-Mini-Grow-Light.asp

Yea would definitely go for an hps if you can, I wasn't sure what kind of budget you had. You can use cfls for suplemntal lighting on the sides if you want to, and the hps has been known to cause a little stretch if used all the way through but the way your plant iis now I dont think it will really make a difference.

i got a shop in town here that sells hps lights i think im going to go buy one tommorow...a this point is it worth getting a new light thou? will it make a difference on this plant? also im planning on geting indica clones would i beable to use the hps for veg and flowering on them? or is it only good for flowering?

CANtokez said:

i got a shop in town here that sells hps lights i think im going to go buy one tommorow...a this point is it worth getting a new light thou? will it make a difference on this plant? also im planning on geting indica clones would i beable to use the hps for veg and flowering on them? or is it only good for flowering?

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yes a hps will help now. yes you can veg with an hps, i do and i my internodal growth is very tight. an hps is good for both veg and flower they are more efficient and have much better light penetration than cfls. imo cfls are only good for seedlings and clones.

right on thanks for the advice guys

Although it is generally agreed that HPS lights produce higher-quality denser buds, many people have done successful small scale cfl grows. The trick is that CFL's need to be placed all around the plant due to their lack of penetration where as with an HPS bulb you can get away with just hanging one at the top. Here's the link to the CFL forum if you decide to stick with them for now. https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/ Either way you choose to get it, it sure looks like that plant needs better light coverage.

And no, I'm not trying to start a CFL v. HPS debate. There is no comparison; HPS are far superior. I'm just saying that for a single plant being grown in a bathroom, under a single CFL... well from what I've seen even $20 worth of Wal-Mart CFL's would improve its situation 110%. And the money he saved buying that HPS could be used towards some nutrients, or a hygrometer, or a ph tester, or...

You can go to a big box hardware store and get 70watt hps "Security" lights.

I spent $0 on my entire grow so far, I built the grow tent with things around the house and I wired the lights(2-80watt fluorescent tube fixture) together myself. The setup is pretty straight up and plants are doing really well. But I am ordering a 600 watt hps this week

right on...but ive just been told that really i shouldn' buy a hps under 400 that i would be better if i just go big so i don need to upsize at all n even the 600 or 1000w would be even better yet and another thing how the fuck do i get a profile pic uploaded? lol

CANtokez said:

right on...but ive just been told that really i shouldn' buy a hps under 400 that i would be better if i just go big so i don need to upsize at all n even the 600 or 1000w would be even better yet and another thing how the fuck do i get a profile pic uploaded? lol

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Were you told that by someone trying to sell you an HPS? From what I've observed a 400w is just fine for a personal grow, but it depends on how many plants you intend on growing and the square footage of your grow area. Are you going to continue growing in your bathroom? The 1000w at htgsupply says it is good for a 10' X 10' space. I imagine if you used one in smaller spaces keeping temps down would be a problem. Then you would need to invest in a cool tube and/or upgraded ventilation. I'm admittedly a n00b, but I've seen some legit 400w HPS grows.

no...my dealer told me this a few hours ago and im looking to soon be growing multiple plants just want to get used to growing indoor i usually grow outdoor but i moved to a gay city and have yet to find good locations

i plan on redoing either my basement or master bedroom up maybe both if i can afford it

CANtokez said:

i plan on redoing either my basement or master bedroom up maybe both if i can afford it

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Well, if you plan on upgrading your setup soon then I'd go with a proper size for the bigger space. If not, I'd go with a size appropriate for my temporary space and either buy a second one and/or upgraded when I expanded. That's just me though.

Whatever you do, try and post some pics of your plant before/after you switch up the lighting on it. I'm curious to see how it responds.

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Well, if you plan on upgrading your setup soon then I'd go with a proper size for the bigger space. If not, I'd go with a size appropriate for my temporary space and either buy a second one and/or upgraded when I expanded. That's just me though.

Whatever you do, try and post some pics of your plant before/after you switch up the lighting on it. I'm curious to see how it responds.

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great advice i agree 100%. oh and that dealer who told you what to buy, what does he use to grow?