It all started in the garden.....(Get Real)

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
Before Fox Farm, Earth Juice, Bontanicare and the countless other fert companies starting doing their thing - there was just nature.
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Now, Canna claims the " Gods must be Crazy ", I say he is not. He created perfection - a never ending circle of life. Others claim to have improved upon nature by refining it into a bottle. Not a chance.....
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Long before you or I were here - there was balance - a natural order to things - and it worked. It still works and after we are all gone - it will continue to work. It always returns to a state of balance - regardless of what we do.
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If you plan on growing Mary - remember this great plant - provided to us by our creator - is classified as a weed. A weed - because it will grow just about anywhere and under harsh conditions.
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I find the harsh conditions it meets most - are provided by over-zealous growers themselves. Force feeding product after product through Marys roots - in hopes of the most glorious yield of Xtra-Chronic known to man.
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I've been growing for over 30 years. In that time, I've seen weed go from being a great social experiment to a commerical endeavor for - illegals, gangs and the Mafia. What a shame....
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I've seen dozens upon dozens of fert companies pop up selling the latest and greatest fert or amendment ever; saying " Just add two drops and watch your yields increase by 25 % " Yeah..Right...
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Now the facts are :

Without our help - Mary grows just fine all over the world.
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A plant is either (genetically superior) or not - no amount of ferts or a particular brand will turn swagg into NYC Diesel.
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Any maker, of any product, that claims to boost yields by any more than a few percentage points - is flat out lying - period.
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Breeders of elite strains do deserve to be paid for their work - $ 100 to $ 200 for ten great quality seeds is worth it. If you buy cheap shit, 99 percent of the time - you get cheap shit.
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Closer to Nature - Closer to Right. Consider growing Organically - it's easy to do - you don't have to spend any real money and it helps your plants reach their genetic potential - with a sweet, smooth burning end product.
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Everyday, someone asks me about ferts or amendments. Most often they believe - that if they just get the right bottle of Brand X - magical things will happen. Their is no magic in a bottle. Some well made products, assist Mary to her full potential - NONE OF THEM - can push her past her genetic potential.
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Grow using time proven methods (I prefer Organic), using decent genetics and the end results will be good. Remember the basics - decent medium, good genetics, light, water & some food.
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If you don't have the time, space or resources to grow out hundreds, upon hundreds of plants - carefully selecting superior genetics - don't call yourself a breeder. That title is reserved for those who put in thousands of hours of work - to refine one or two strains. So, don't complain about them wanting to get paid for their work.
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Stop believing " Flashy ads...rediculious claims...and unproven statements from people - who often don't really know. " Instead - KEEP IT REAL
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That is a saying from my youth " Keep it Real " - three simple words, for if it sounds to good to be true, don't believe it. Be reasonable, count your blessings not your cash. Live, Love, Grow & Share....
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Leave the BS and Crazy Claims to the Used Car Salesmen.....
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It all started in the garden.... (not in the hydro shop & not for only $ 49.99 a bottle)
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Peace.... (end of rant / reality check).
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Keep it Real......
 

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
Thank You Everyone for the kind words. Occassionally the big fert companies, get my blood pressure up. Better to vent, than to blow. Plus sharing some truth, is better than spreading some hate. If you haven't checked out the Organics Forum, give us a read.
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Peace & Keep it Real....
 

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
86 views....& only a few replys.... I'm going to bump this one back up....
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All opinions are welcome....... come into the light...... turn away from fancy advertising ploys...... make your own ferts..... save money...... throw down the bottle, pick up the bucket.......
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Bat Guano Rocks... Bunny Poop has Power.... Worm Castings are the Shit !
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Jump on the Organic Train..... whoo.... whoo..... I'm blazed like a MF, can you tell... It's the Organic Buds.......completely chem free........
 

dazed76

New Member
advanced nutrients collasal bud is organic, i dont have time to boil a bucnh of guanos and shit and reduce it to get a more pure product so i let them do it
 

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
advanced nutrients collasal bud is organic, i dont have time to boil a bucnh of guanos and shit and reduce it to get a more pure product so i let them do it
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Dazed76.... I can completely understand that. The organic thing is just my preference - that does not make it, the rule. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
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Keep it Real...
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
Same here yo, i keep it as simple as possible - definitely not into those 56 part nutrient packages for the pro grower LOL. I got Fox Farms three part nutrient package growbigbigbloomtigerbloom, n i got some BMO Super Plant tonic, n Grammas Molasses. Thats it. The only other thing i MIGHT pick up to improve on my nutrient regimen is some Humboldt Counties Own Purple Maxx. It claims to stack budsites closer together during flowering for more compact denser buds. So i may pick that up, but thats as complicated as i get man.

All the other stuff i got is for plant problems. if i need Ph, i got Roots Organics Bat guano, If i need Mg i got Epsoms, N i got Cal Mag. I probably got some other stuff too, but once again, its all for deficiencies, so i dont use it ever, unless the plants prompt me to :D
 

Ohsogreen

Well-Known Member
Time to Recycle.... let what was old, be new again........like compost......
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Comments....chime in........
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Keep it Real....
 

juicyjayz

New Member
i agree in a way..but disagree on two things...sure cannabis will grow ANYWHERE,but the nevirnoment it grows in AFFECTS soo much on the end product and how to grows....planting it in a nicely fertilzied soil,with full sun will end you a nice,green healthy plant with a pound of quality cannabis....growing that same plant,in a comapcted,heavy,completely barren clay dirt,in a shady spot,in a colder region,will not yield nearly ass well,and will grow into spindly,weak plants....

while growing this hobby,we strive to get the best possible yield and qualtiy of the end product...sure you can grow some plants under cfls using garden soil with only organic ferts...but you will get a much larger yield under a 400,600 or 1000w h.i.d...using high end CANNABIS SPECIFIC ferts like advnaced nutrients...

you dont even have to get the full package,i only use a.n monkey juice,budblood,big bud,overdrive....thats it....these "flashy" fertilizers company were developed at STRICLTY cannabis specific,after years of reseacrh,for the medical communtity...so stating that organic crap like guano,etc perfoms better than these high end chemicals,is quite untrue....

again il use the same analgoy,grow up eating only bread n water..whle the same guy grows up eating a full balanded diet,with vitamins...who will look better in the end????



sure i absol;utely LOVE organics..theyr easy to use,and you just feel so great knowing your plants are using natural ferts...atleast I do....but for the effort,i want the best end product..and A.N have been PROVEN to not only increase yield,but resin production,etc......just do a test run for yourself chum!~!~ grow 5 plants with only organic ferts,and the other 5 with high quality nutes..and tell me which group grows faster,healthier,etc...good day
 
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