Right wing beliefs

medicineman said:

That's why I favor Obama. I believe he is anti-war and will try and keep the warmongers curtailed. He may even make this country better liked accross the globe...

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Not so sure how you figured this one out? Was it not Obama that basically called for the assassination without the slightest hint of trying to capture OSlama Bin Laden? OH yeah and wasn't he advocating doing such, whether the country he is found in agrees to this or not? My impression was that he is advocating more military actions/presence in Afghanistan?

Little lost on the ANTI-WAR part? Wait a sec, you mean ANTI-IRAQI WAR, we should pull out of Iraq and send these troops into Afghanistan?

This all puts our country in better light with the world how?


BTW - I was thinking along similar lines as yours before the debate, but now I just don't know it was the correct thinking. Both want war for the economy, one is upfront with it and will use the military might openly, the other seems like he'll just fall back to the 'go to' guys (CIA, NSA) to wage these wars less publicly, you know the ones, they just don't need pay attention to international laws against government sanctioned assassinations or treaties because these operations really don't exist.

chuckbane said:

Welcome to the club. Except I get it twice as worse waving my flag.

These people creep around looking for people to put down and hate. They have to hate someone to make themselves feel like they are better. Im learning to ignore these idiots and focus on spreading my word of equality and freedom.

They can try all they want but they will never break my spirit

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That's interesting, coming from someone who's spreading plenty of hating himself.

Pot, I'd like you to meet Kettle.

medicineman said:

Well Chuck, If I wasn't ready to duel with these assholes, I wouldn't be on here. You have to remember, I am the voice of poor people on this site. What poor people don't have is a computer and internet access. If they did, I'm sure I'd have quite a few more allies on site. We are for the most part dealing with right wing assholes that have the time and money to sit on a keyboard and refute all reason on a Marijuana site with dumb ass rhetoric and down right lies. So don't expect a lot of substantial arguements or answers to your queries. Just hold your nose and proceed with caution. Something definently smells.

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What? You've assigned yourself representative of the poor?

No, you are not. What you are is the voice of the stupid and lazy.

Too lazy to make the best of what you had, and too stupid to make something where there was nothing.

Unlike my father, who grew up rummaging in waste bins for leftover food. Who got himself a scholarship for being so smart that a university said, "Hey, we want to educate this young man, we'll take a chance on him." He became the first college graduate in his family. Then he became an M.D.

Unlike my own husband, who grew up poor enough that, at times, his father would go into the fields to pick lettuce or strawberries or whatever crop was coming in so that he could feed his family an honest, hard-earned meal.

Unlike both of my great-grandfathers who arrived on a small island in the Caribbean with nothing but the raggedy clothes on their backs. One of whom began, as a boy not even a teenager, by making and selling charcoal. He became one of the wealthiest men on the island, and even started the first bank in the town where my grandparents still live. Those same grandparents who have raised more children of others than any of us can count.

You're not representing anything but ignorance and avarice and laziness and stupidity. You're an excellent example of all those, and more. The green resenting face of he who covets that which he has not earned, that's what you are and that's what you represent.

chuckbane said:

Ive been dueling.. But no matter how many times i prove them wrong they disappear and another one shows up.

I know i was being a pompous asshole towards the end of that abortion debate but i threw out at least 5 of those pro-lifers ON MY OWN but then another one comes around using the same argument as the last guy.

I am your ally Med, even though we do share different views (i.e. national lotto) we are still after the same thing. Equal quality for all.

I wish you all the luck in the world spreading your word as I hope you do the same for me.

We will take down these assholes sooner or later.

Common sense and reasoning ALWAYS prevails

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You haven't been able to "prove" shit, chuck. You say that you're going to prove something, and then when you can't you obfuscate! What a fucking crock. You start off spouting, and then when someone calls you on it you say you don't have to do anything. That's proving an argument? That's proving someone wrong? On what planet (besides the one inside your head)?

medicineman said:

You are so gullible dave, If I said I took a shit, you'd want to see it,~LOL~ Now, this is your opportunity to brag about what a glorious genious you are, how you supported 50-100 poor people on shitbag salary and raised perfect children, or how you donate 50% of your salary to charity. You my non-friend are a worthless bag of bullshit. Keep bragging, we can see the real dave behind all the crap. Tell us how smart you are and how you have this genious job running the whole telecom market, when in all reality you drive a minivan and repair phone lines, yeah big bad dave, BTW fuck you! And also, genious, do you even know how to day trade. I don't claim to know the market, but yesterday was a slam dunk. Go fix someones phone, that is if you're smart enough.

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Actually, I wanted a minivan, but Dave nixed it.

And sweetheart, you forgot that he was also an ASE certified mechanic! Now, if that ain't somethin' worth bragging about (and the last guy I'm gonna take my car to, I'll take the factory-trained guy every time).... D'oh!

medicineman said:

--regularly uses harsh, vulgar, intolerant language...


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Judging from your posts, maybe you should have left this out of your rant.

medicineman said:

.....It doesn't matter whether the government is left or right, it always trends towards dictatorship after a while.....
.....The fat cats have control and aren't about to give up power......

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the truth of the situation is in your own post. the old saw about power corrupting has more truth in it than we would like to believe. there is far too much power invested in the few, but that doesn't mean we should just hand them what little power remains to us.

That's why I favor Obama. I believe he is anti-war and will try and keep the warmongers curtailed.

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i know i'm guilty of quite a few of my own delusions, but this blind faith so many seem to have in the anti-war sentiment of any front running politician is too extreme even for me. the business of war makes far too much money and creates far too much power for either party to keep us at peace for long.

medicineman said:

You are so gullible dave, If I said I took a shit, you'd want to see it,~LOL~ Now, this is your opportunity to brag about what a glorious genious you are, how you supported 50-100 poor people on shitbag salary and raised perfect children, or how you donate 50% of your salary to charity. You my non-friend are a worthless bag of bullshit. Keep bragging, we can see the real dave behind all the crap. Tell us how smart you are and how you have this genious job running the whole telecom market, when in all reality you drive a minivan and repair phone lines, yeah big bad dave, BTW fuck you! And also, genious, do you even know how to day trade. I don't claim to know the market, but yesterday was a slam dunk. Go fix someones phone, that is if you're smart enough.

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Must've hit a nerve....

Carful Dave ... the next thing you know, Med will be telling you what a great shot he is with his sniper rifle.

Vi

ViRedd said:

Carful Dave ... the next thing you know, Med will be telling you what a great shot he is with his sniper rifle.

Vi

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He's been spouting about his fucking guns for about as long as he's been a member. For them to have any effect he would first have to get the fuck up off his lazy ass and MOVE, and then he'd have to, you know, find us.

~lol~ ... A couple of years ago, Med actually posted a picture of his penis in this forum. Based upon that picture, its obviously true what they say about gun nuts.

Vi

ViRedd said:

~lol~ ... A couple of years ago, Med actually posted a picture of his penis in this forum. Based upon that picture, its obviously true what they say about gun nuts.

Vi

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What...? Are you serious? At his age...? To what end or for what purpose?

Seamaiden said:

That's interesting, coming from someone who's spreading plenty of hating himself.

Pot, I'd like you to meet Kettle.

What? You've assigned yourself representative of the poor?

No, you are not. What you are is the voice of the stupid and lazy.

Too lazy to make the best of what you had, and too stupid to make something where there was nothing.

Unlike my father, who grew up rummaging in waste bins for leftover food. Who got himself a scholarship for being so smart that a university said, "Hey, we want to educate this young man, we'll take a chance on him." He became the first college graduate in his family. Then he became an M.D.

Unlike my own husband, who grew up poor enough that, at times, his father would go into the fields to pick lettuce or strawberries or whatever crop was coming in so that he could feed his family an honest, hard-earned meal.

Those same grandparents who have raised more children of others than any of us can count.

You're not representing anything but ignorance and avarice and laziness and stupidity. You're an excellent example of all those, and more. The green resenting face of he who covets that which he has not earned, that's what you are and that's what you represent.

You haven't been able to "prove" shit, chuck. You say that you're going to prove something, and then when you can't you obfuscate! What a fucking crock. You start off spouting, and then when someone calls you on it you say you don't have to do anything. That's proving an argument? That's proving someone wrong? On what planet (besides the one inside your head)?


Actually, I wanted a minivan, but Dave nixed it.

And sweetheart, you forgot that he was also an ASE certified mechanic! Now, if that ain't somethin' worth bragging about (and the last guy I'm gonna take my car to, I'll take the factory-trained guy every time).... D'oh!

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Hey sea-B go lick Yourself, will ya. Must be that time of the month. Got ya all hot about your old mans pissy job eh. Big tech, bullshit. He drives a minivan and repairs phone lines, whooee. I guess those genes didn't rub off on you, eh. A sit at home douchebag that pounds out drivel attack bullshit on the net. When you come to your senses, (Not probable) remember that it's not nice to dis your elders,~LOL~.

ViRedd said:

~lol~ ... A couple of years ago, Med actually posted a picture of his penis in this forum. Based upon that picture, its obviously true what they say about gun nuts.

Vi

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You keep disowning that pic of your little fellow you foisted on me at that meeting. When you found out I was not Gay and wanted it back, I posted it on the net, so keep up the bullshit old fellow. we both know who's penis that was.

Originally Posted by ViRedd
~lol~ ... A couple of years ago, Med actually posted a picture of his penis in this forum. Based upon that picture, its obviously true what they say about gun nuts.

Vi

What...? Are you serious? At his age...? To what end or for what purpose?

I'm not sure, exactly. I think it was his way of saying f**k you. Honestly, the thing looked like a big acorn. I mean, if he lost four inches, he'd have a two inch hole where his dick was supposed to go. Talk about false pride!

Vi

medicineman said:

Hey sea-B go lick Yourself, will ya. Must be that time of the month. Got ya all hot about your old mans pissy job eh. Big tech, bullshit. He drives a minivan and repairs phone lines, whooee. I guess those genes didn't rub off on you, eh. A sit at home douchebag that pounds out drivel attack bullshit on the net. When you come to your senses, (Not probable) remember that it's not nice to dis your elders,~LOL~.

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And with that med demonstrates his complete inability to make anything resembling an "intelligent" argument. Now, why have you stopped yourself at calling me a bitch? You've hit just about everything else, including now calling me a douchebag. Oh, my, your level of self-control is that of a 2yo.

Yes, you assuage your jealous tendencies with your stories, med. Make yourself feel better, keep stroking whatever remains of your ego. My elders, those who behave in such a manner, have my utmost respect. People who behave as children, as you do, however, haven't earned a thing. Not even the privilege of licking my road-grimed boots.

Are you just about ready to pop? It's gonna make one hell of a mess when you do.

ViRedd said:

Originally Posted by ViRedd
~lol~ ... A couple of years ago, Med actually posted a picture of his penis in this forum. Based upon that picture, its obviously true what they say about gun nuts.

Vi

What...? Are you serious? At his age...? To what end or for what purpose?

I'm not sure, exactly. I think it was his way of saying f**k you. Honestly, the thing looked like a big acorn. I mean, if he lost four inches, he'd have a two inch hole where his dick was supposed to go. Talk about false pride!

Vi

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But he keeps telling the other women what a fat, long dick he has! You mean he's LYING??? Gosh, who would have thought he'd do such a thing.

This is such a friendly site.

Vi

medicineman said:

Can't let it go can you sea-B, just keep prodding like the real douche you are. Attack attack attack. Well, fine, fuck you. There is no arguing with a bitch. I've seen this action a few times, go change your rag now. Call it a win if it eases your cramps. I could really care less what you think. Maybe you should go out and wax your old mans mini-van, get rid of that pent up feeling of frustration.

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And what you're doing is what, exactly, med? You're not attacking me? All I do is make astute observations, rather pointed ones at that, and all you do is react. React react react.

See, you're not even smart enough to comprehend, even when you're told directly, that you've made yourself into nothing more than a toy for the enjoyment of others. And then you start getting nasty. Why? Because, there is absolutely nothing else in your "arsenal" except to call people names, tell them to suck your dick, kiss your ass, lick your ass, fuck off, etcetera.

And now you're using the very last tool you have "available" to you (it's the last thing you can think of, the actions of a dying man). You attack my femininity. You attack my femaleness, my womanhood. Misogyny, at the hands of the self-declared "voice of the poor, of the downtrodden". You have little problem dispensing with that notion when it suits you, though, do you?

Yes, I call it a win. Because I've made you into my tool. And you continue to lend yourself to being used as a tool. You behave like a tool, so therefore, you are a tool.
I give you your new avatar. Toolman, ASE certified mechanic and blowhard.


This one actually fits the picture I have of you in my head.


Or, maybe you're really this guy...


Now, why don't you show us how nonreactive and intelligent you are with your next post addressing the lady who doesn't really get to you, mkay?

Actually baby....I personally think this is more apt...

medicineman said:

More attacks from the incidious duo. When confronted with reason they slide into attack and defamation. Let's just say you won. Would that make you happy, no I don't think so. You have developed a special hatred of me and my opinions, so I'll just write you both off as the assholes you are, the treacherous seabitch and her mini-van driving telephone repairman that think they are all that. Go on with your drivel. I know who you really are, Mr. and Mrs. slime. Fuck the both of you.

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Wait a minute! Are you really asserting that you're confronting us with "reason"??? I am now laughing my fucking ass OFF. Oh, please, Mr. medicineman, pray tell, what reason is it that you're confronting us with? Because for the life of us both we just don't see it. Is it that we're just too thick-headed to see it? Or is the problem with our reading comprehension (all those test scores must have been plain bunk)?

Yes, I'll go on with my drivel, Mr. Blowhard. I'm stocking up on paper towels for when you actually POP. POP POP!

You are truly amazing because you keep reacting. You react to stuff that isn't even there. And you react to stuff that is there, but your reaction makes little sense. You're like that damned fish that keeps taking the same fucking bait, each and every time. Except, the thing is this--I have never run across such a fish! They always learn, assuming they get the second chance.

Come ON, old man. Show us what you've really got. Or is this it? Have you pretty much blown your whole wad and all that's left is the foul-mouthed bullshit you continually spout? You know, when I was lurking and watching you bully others around, watching you blowing so hard, I knew you would make for some good entertainment. And I've always said, if you can be nothing else in this life, at LEAST be a good entertainment value.
Keep up the good work.