180w jumbo ufo grow(in progress)

beeker74

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Whats up yal.What this crazy looking thing is a 180w jumbo ufo.The larger more mature plants are 1-blueberry, 1-blue hash, 1 Cali Hash, 2 Nightshades.Just going into flower are 17 6" tall blueberry, and nightshade clones.And 7 big bangs just completed 10 days 12/12.The name of the company is Prosource, and they gave this thing to me for 300US-cost, as long as I present this grow to you.Now the 5 maturing plants were under 2-90w tri-band ufo's for 28 days, so they didnt get the full effect of the added spectrum of the 180.2 bands of blue, 2 bands of red and a band of infrared.The unit is held 18" above the canopy(more on this later)but love it or hate it-here she is...
 

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tea tree

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that is awseome! how the hell did you wrangle that deal. I liek the thought of being green. I tried a ufo but I was too desperate a grower to trust it at the time.
 

beeker74

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that is awseome! how the hell did you wrangle that deal. I liek the thought of being green. I tried a ufo but I was too desperate a grower to trust it at the time.
I did a few grow journals with their old 90w tri-band model ufo's, I guess they liked what they saw-then out of the blue, I get the offer.They really want to show this thing in a 4x4 packed tent.I guess having a 4x4 tent helped too.
 

AquafinaOrbit

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LEDs 18" above the plant. Seems a tad far to me based on heat they should be putting off but then I've never used them.
 

beeker74

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I did a few grow journals with their old 90w tri-band model ufo's, I guess they liked what they saw-then out of the blue, I get the offer.They really want to show this thing in a 4x4 packed tent.I guess having a 4x4 tent helped too.
all but 6 plants(blueberries) are in ffof with extra perlite, and dolomite lime.I've been underferting, so now every other watering, to one gal of H20-30 mils of Pura Vida Bloom, 2 1/2 tspns of Liquid Karma-3/4 tspn of Atami-B-Cuzz bloom, 1 tspn epsom.The 6 that arent in ffof are in a perlite vermiculite mix-still watered with Pura Vida+additives.You can see the nute defs on the blueberries-gave em a feed today
 

beeker74

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LEDs 18" above the plant. Seems a tad far to me based on heat they should be putting off but then I've never used them.
Thats the new school of thought.The newer units put out some photons-too close(oversaturation)-weird twisted growth.Part of the deal was that I follow their instructions- so 18" it is.After this grow, I plan on doing some messin around of my own.
 

beeker74

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Thats the new school of thought.The newer units put out some photons-too close(oversaturation)-weird twisted growth.Part of the deal was that I follow their instructions- so 18" it is.After this grow, I plan on doing some messin around of my own.
Something of note-this unit def runs warmer than 2-90w tri-bands.I think that the band of infrared is the culprit.Temps stay below 80, 77-79
 

beeker74

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damn looks great for l.e.d's i'm still waiting for them to be better, they will become the golden standard
I'd wait for prices to drop, the tek is performing well, on a homegrow scale-and I believe many will benefit from it.But until the cost comes down to an acceptable level,it's just simply inaccessable to many.And I really dont think thats fair.But thats the way the world works-I sure as shit know I wouldnt have paid full freight.And thanks man-the next couple weeks should be interesting.
 

beeker74

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I'd wait for prices to drop, the tek is performing well, on a homegrow scale-and I believe many will benefit from it.But until the cost comes down to an acceptable level,it's just simply inaccessable to many.And I really dont think thats fair.But thats the way the world works-I sure as shit know I wouldnt have paid full freight.And thanks man-the next couple weeks should be interesting.
These 5 will be the upcoming harvest- I'm sure it'll be one plant at a time, It'll def be Nightshade first-blueberry second, followed by the blue hash-wrapping it up with the Nightshade, and Cali-Hash.Tentatively
 

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beeker74

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Enough of the seed plants for now( the flowering plants) week 1-21 blueberry and nightshade clones, 7-2 week old Big Bangs, and a squatty 5 week old big bang that I just tied down and put into 12/12-I havent done lst with led yet, so we'll see how she turns out
 

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beeker74

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I know the daily pics may seem excessive, but prosource wanted me to post daily pics.So here ya go
 

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beeker74

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I know the daily pics may seem excessive, but prosource wanted me to post daily pics.So here ya go
Heres my hps-fluoro grow-for comparison bud shots at end of the grow.2x2 homebox xs, 1 1/2 gallon buckets of ffof-the strain is Big Bang- I also have some of those in the led tent.People always ask about the comparisons between hps and led, I'm going to give you an unbiased comparitive grow.If this led unit is really more than just hype-she should have no problem moppin the floor with the 150w hps- 100w fluoro combo.I highly doubt it, but we'll see. I raised the hps for the photos-usually she's 3" from the canopy. The hood has 400cfm pullin out the heat
 

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seasmoke

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beeker, what do these lights look like? Got a pic?( I'm not buying LEDs untill they are surefire....and cheaper.
 

beeker74

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beeker, what do these lights look like? Got a pic?( I'm not buying LEDs untill they are surefire....and cheaper.
Good idea-my general assertion is that these lights are no where near as efficient as they claim.Right now we're seeing alot of new colors creeping into these units-I guess red and blue really isnt all that.My personal belief is that plants photosynthesize optimally under the full spectrum provided by the sun-or an hps/mh combo for that matter.But these units are progressing-I dont buy the whole selective spectrum thing, so I believe this unit at 180 watts is simply using better diodes-the old ufo's had 14 lm/watt- this ufo is using 100 lm/w diode, has to be.The other led ufo's I tested didnt do dick-dandelion weed.This unit-the nugs are growing tighter-hmmm-gotta be mo lumens in there-the company refuses to state the lumen output.And we all know it's lumens that brings the fat dank.That'll be the future of this tek-diodes that produce an unbelievably high lumen count.They have one in China now that puts out(1 watt diode) 50,000 lm...but it only lasts 2-3 seconds.BTW-somebody correct me if I'm wrong-but hps puts out 140lm/watt correct?And the most "efficient" diodes, that can be used-put out 100lm/watt-and man are they expensive.Right now If I only had one grow it would be an HID grow.Heres the 180 unit I'm using-the quadrants can be turned on and off independantly-I guess this is to gradually introduce tender young seedlings and clones to the full 180.
 

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