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I also own Dawkins The God Delusion. I will admit I did not make it through the whole book though. Not because it wasn't good or I didn't agree with what he was saying but because it made me so frustrated reading about all the things that drove me crazy growing up in a forced religious family. I remember questioning and detesting many thing about and involving the christain religion and thier ways. i think the reason it made me so angry was because when I read it I couldn't understand that if other people (other than myself and others i have expressed my views to) also have capabilites of thoughts the same as mine, than why did religion terrorize the PLANET for so long? and even worse, why is it still going on? We live in the age of information where we are free to learn and persue whatever we wish but so many still choose to follow and practice these ridicouslous demeaning religions. People are still willing to die for the beliefs they were told to believe. and don't get me wrong, i am more than willing to die for what i believe in,, but i believe in what I have found,, with my own intelligence and reason,, to be true,, not what i have been told to be true. There is too much corruption and greed in this world to choose otherwise.
My favorite quote,, which i think you will very much enjoy email468 is as follows. If my memory serves me right this was written pre-reformation but was not able to be published untill after the reforation by nicolas condorcet post-humously. its sad to think that the creater of this piece was never able to see his masterpiece in the hands of others... all because the iron grip of religion.
From Condorcet, Sketch for a Historical Picture of the Progress of the Human Mind (1795)
"The time will therefore come when the sun will shine only on free man who know no other master but their reason; when tyrants and slaves, priests and their stupid or hypocritical instruments will exist only in works of history and on the stage; and when we shall think of them only to pity their victims and their dupes; to maintain ourselves in a state of vigilance by thinking on their excesses; and to learn how to recognize and so to destroy, by force of reason, the first seeds of tyranny and superstition, should they ever dare to reappear among us." |
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So how did you find The God delusion? I would be interested to hear your recommendations on Dawkin's books. So far I've read Blind watchmaker, and The selfish gene. Both fantastic books, I admire Dawkins fluency and the way he conveys his ideas. currently reading 'The Emperors new mind', by Roger Penrose.
After that I'll be moving on to Erwin Schrodinger's 'What is life?', Where he claims that we eat not to gain energy, but to maintain negative entropy, get your head around that one!. Both of these I would recommend to you, I get the feeling you'd like them. |
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I am interested! I know bacteria survived the trip to the moon and back and satellites have been retrieved with microbes still living!
off-topic but kind of related - have you seen the blue planet series? specifically "the deep"?
they filmed the "hot vents" and "cold seeps" - if you haven't seen it - check it out!
if you have then you'll know what i'm talking about when i say it feels like your looking a the first video of life found on another planet! same goes for some of the cave creatures in the "caves" episode of planet earth. That one thing that looks like a stalactite that drips hydrochloric acid - holy cow amazing stuff.
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Wow, microbes were still alive after being brought back from moon! Hardy lil buggers they are. I suppose that's why they go to so much trouble to not contaminate a probe/satellite before sending it off, especially the ones looking for life, else they may come across some earth life they took with them. I did watch the blue planet series, and yes "the deep" was my favourite. Amazing footage , it makes you look at life with new eyes so to speak, unclouded by our accustomed feeling towards the life we see everyday. It's a totally different ecosystem down there; as you probably know all life was previously thought to depend on the Sun, but this discovery blows that out of the water (pardon the pun ). The extreme conditions down there is what I can't get my head around, but the life down there just seems to thrive around these hydrothermal vents, with crabs and these strange worms that all feed of the bacteria, which feeds of the chemicals the the vents bring up? Am I on the right line there? The Planet Earth one was outstanding especially the cave one. Did you notice when the scuba guys went through the caves underwater they came across this area where salt and fresh water met, and made it look as if they were coming into fresh air, it looked really weird. Sorry about the rant, I feel a lot better now.  |
Amazingly cool stuff! yeah - the "coral" strains the nutrients soup from the vents and then something eats them and something else eats them and so on. i figure it will be something like that when we finally find life elsewhere - unless on the off chance it comes to us. |
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I am interested! I know bacteria survived the trip to the moon and back and satellites have been retrieved with microbes still living!
off-topic but kind of related - have you seen the blue planet series? specifically "the deep"?
they filmed the "hot vents" and "cold seeps" - if you haven't seen it - check it out!
if you have then you'll know what i'm talking about when i say it feels like your looking a the first video of life found on another planet! same goes for some of the cave creatures in the "caves" episode of planet earth. That one thing that looks like a stalactite that drips hydrochloric acid - holy cow amazing stuff.
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Wow, microbes were still alive after being brought back from moon! Hardy lil buggers they are. I suppose that's why they go to so much trouble to not contaminate a probe/satellite before sending it off, especially the ones looking for life, else they may come across some earth life they took with them. I did watch the blue planet series, and yes "the deep" was my favourite. Amazing footage , it makes you look at life with new eyes so to speak, unclouded by our accustomed feeling towards the life we see everyday. It's a totally different ecosystem down there; as you probably know all life was previously thought to depend on the Sun, but this discovery blows that out of the water (pardon the pun). The extreme conditions down there is what I can't get my head around, but the life down there just seems to thrive around these hydrothermal vents, with crabs and these strange worms that all feed of the bacteria, which feeds of the chemicals the the vents bring up? Am I on the right line there? The Planet Earth one was outstanding especially the cave one. Did you notice when the scuba guys went through the caves underwater they came across this area where salt and fresh water met, and made it look as if they were coming into fresh air, it looked really weird. Sorry about the rant, I feel a lot better now. |
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