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Old 05-11-2008, 06:23 PM
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I don't smoke cigarettes, personally i find them gross. I don't think that weed is a gateway drug at all i think it's physiological.
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Do you mean "psychological"? Physiological makes it seem like that it IS a gateway drug.

People like to blame weed for things, as it makes it easier to make it illegal. There wouldn't be aannnny heroin addicts if there weren't marijuana. Nope.

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Old 05-11-2008, 07:27 PM
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yep! sorry, exactly what im trying to say. 99% of the people who say it's a gateway drug have probably never smoked weed, who are they to say it is. it's things like this that is a you don't know till you try kinda thing. yes there is testing and statistics but there could have been more factors, maybe they were raised by meth smokers or introduced to it as a good thing, you never know.
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Believe it or not, alcohol is indeed a natural drug. I've seen birds, elk, deer, horses and cattle (actually too many animals to list) eating sweet fruits that have fallen from the tree and begun fermentation. It is theorized that early modern humans got their first drink on by these fallen fruits. I've also read of birds and other animals that keep coming back for more, and one story of a bunch of birds that snapped their necks after consuming large quantities of fermented plums that then flew into windows. Kind of funny, yet kind of sad, then I laughed my ass off. Stupid bird!
We have a tree over here that thrives in the tropics. It's commonly called a parrot tree...it's African in origin. But anyway, the Rainbow Lorikeets just love this tree. It gets covered in masses of long sprays of red, nectar filled flowers. As they mature, the nectar starts to ferment*in the flower* before it drops to the ground. Well, the lorikeets have a field day, and get rotten in the process. They fall out of the tree, fly into walls, have drunken arguments with their mates. Just about everything us humans do when we're on the piss. Pretty funny site seeing a drunk lorikeet fly into the lounge room window.

We have another non-native tree that is also attractive to Parrots and Lorikeets. It's the African Tulip.



But we're not here to talk about birds and stuff are we...sorry

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Old 05-11-2008, 08:14 PM
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Maybe the other drug that could possibly be a gateway effect would be the yola bola. Its still kind of seen in some cultures as a upper class thing. When people think of yola, you think of escobar running shit in on speedboats or obviously scarface. I was around a large ganj exchange and there was some apparently good stuff. He gave me a quick run down on the signs of quality to look for, etc. It never hurts to be well informed, thanks erowids! I tried a line and I personally didn't like it. It tasted kinda bitter and it made my throat feel weird. The worst thing is that it made my heart race, I don't like that feeling. I also have a heart condition too so I don't wanna push that. Nowadays though if my friends are doing it around me, I just usually ask to clean the res off the mirror and gum it with my pinky. Very low dose, gets a little kick and its more stylish.
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isn't tobacco the gateway drug? i smoked a cigarette before i smoked a joint.
that is a fact but they are doing there best to get rid of ciggs too
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i dont smoke cigs, i have never done any other drug besides weed...i have never even seen coke, meth, speed, or shrooms in person

i used to drink before i smoked but i like smoking better than drinking.. but drinking can be more social
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i dont smoke cigs, i have never done any other drug besides weed...i have never even seen coke, meth, speed, or shrooms in person

i used to drink before i smoked but i like smoking better than drinking.. but drinking can be more social
This argument rages on, with the anti-pot brigade forever screaming that weed is *the* gateway drug, not *A* gateway drug.
Alcohol and tobacco can also be considered 'gateway' drugs, as can cannabis, coffee and a whole plethora of legal prescription drugs. There is a lot of study based evidence that alcohol is a far more common gateway drug than others. However, because it is a legal poison, it doesn't get the publicity that weed does. Nor do all the prescription drugs fed to people by GPs.

Sociological factors (lifestyle, upbringing and even your hometown) are recognized as being the main causative factors in why people end up abusing whatever drug they choose to ingest. Your 'Cultural Capital' is more likely the 'gateway' to drug use and/or abuse.

End of silly science/sociology lesson.
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Silly!? I think not! Education in this area is essential for us to beat down the anti-pot wackos. You'll find that many of those people are not educated on the subject (at least, not well) and crumble under a good dose of hard facts and proper semantics.

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This argument rages on, with the anti-pot brigade forever screaming that weed is *the* gateway drug, not *A* gateway drug.
Alcohol and tobacco can also be considered 'gateway' drugs, as can cannabis, coffee and a whole plethora of legal prescription drugs. There is a lot of study based evidence that alcohol is a far more common gateway drug than others. However, because it is a legal poison, it doesn't get the publicity that weed does. Nor do all the prescription drugs fed to people by GPs.

Sociological factors (lifestyle, upbringing and even your hometown) are recognized as being the main causative factors in why people end up abusing whatever drug they choose to ingest. Your 'Cultural Capital' is more likely the 'gateway' to drug use and/or abuse.

End of silly science/sociology lesson.
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