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Old 05-10-2008, 11:44 AM
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that one don't count either, same reason as tobacco, even though more people are admitted to hospital for tobacco related incidents than marijuana and drinking is even worse, accident and emergency is always full on a friday and saturday night of over swelled egos that got knocked back down to earth.

so no, despite how shitty these two "drugs" are they do not count as they can be taxed and the gov has a stake in it.
Who gives a shit if they tax it that isn't even relevant.

I first tried cigarettes before anything, albeit if i did
not start smoking cigarettes i would have never bothered
with anything else.

But i don't smoke cigarettes no longer, pointless imo.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:58 AM
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The Gateway Drug in respect to cannabis is just a myth perpetuated by the anti-pot propagandists-

Fact:- The vast majority of drug users (ie, illegal drugs, including pot) started with tobacco and/or alcohol.

Fact:- 60% of heroin and cocaine users smoked pot before they got onto the other.

Fact:- 80% of people who start smoking pot *never* go on to use heavier/harder drugs.

Fact:- Every study conducted in places where marijuana has been decriminalized show no increase in cocaine, meth and heroin use. There is some evidence to show an increase in weed smokers. However, this could be attributed to more people admitting to using the drug through less fear of persecution or prosecution.
One would expect, if the 'gateway' myth were true, there would be a marked increase in hard drug users in those places.

Given those facts, it would be reasonable to call weed a 'terminus' drug. Meaning it is a drug people stop at, rather than move on from.
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Who gives a shit if they tax it that isn't even relevant.

I first tried cigarettes before anything, albeit if i did
not start smoking cigarettes i would have never bothered
with anything else.

But i don't smoke cigarettes no longer, pointless imo.

of course its fucking relevant you retard, re read the thread,

someone told me that the american government was dumbing down its citizens on purpose, because of this 2012 thing, i didn't believe them, but being on here is starting to swing it for me
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because of this 2012 thing, i didn't believe them, but being on here is starting to swing it for me
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of course its fucking relevant you retard, re read the thread,

someone told me that the american government was dumbing down its citizens on purpose, because of this 2012 thing, i didn't believe them, but being on here is starting to swing it for me
if you believe in 2012, thenits not us who are dumb.
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worlds supposed to end in 2012 or something it was all the rage last year lol

in my younger days i did a lot of coke, acid, shrooms, microdots, smoked some crack, and snorted meth ONCE...that shit fucked me up for 3 days, ended up in a bathroom of some people i didnt know doing an 8 ball with a friend that some guy who just robbed the crack man gave us...after that i realized that drugs are the devil and weed is the best thing on earth....not tomention that ive never feared for my life hanging out with potheads lol...

the only way that i can concieve of it being a 'gateway' is that they hype it so much as being so terrible, (i mean do you ever see a public service announcment that says hey dont shoot herion? but they show some potheads taking off at 60mph from a drivethru and creaming a little girl on a bike...and by the way whats a little kid doing riding a bike alone in front of a busy fast food restuarant?) that when people finally do try it for themselves theyre like hey this isnt ANYTHING like they said it was, maybe crack isnt so bad either...
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herb is basically what helped me get off meth been off i for over 4 years now but i used to shoot an 8th of ice a day and i never coul;da stopped if i had tried to quit blazing chronic too
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if you believe in 2012, thenits not us who are dumb.
i never said i believed it outright, but i can't also totally discount the notion,
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isn't tobacco the gateway drug? i smoked a cigarette before i smoked a joint.

not here... smoke'd a joint first ^^
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